Laker fans think that the only players worth having only played for them![]()
To be fair, the Lakers have had the luxury of having the best players to ever play the game wear P&G.
Magic, Kareem, Wilt, West, Baylor, Bryant, O'Neal.......
Yeah, and Duncan has gone through Kobe "with" Shaq. Kobe has never "led" his team to a le, Duncan has. Duncan has 2 MVP's, Kobe 1. Face it, Kobe has nothing on Duncan
Duncan is a PF/C. Kobe is a SG/SF. There is no point comparing the two.
Laker fans believe for the most part (it seems) that Kobe is >>>>> MJ.![]()
When you're talking about career accomplishments, it's fair to compare them.
My bad. Thanks for the correction.
Doesn't take a monkey to realize that Kobe is a career second banana. He's basically Gilbert Arenas with more athletic ability.
Spoken like a true monkey.
Yeah, Magic played with utter players at the other four positions.LOL... so Kobe will never get credit for winning a le. You girls are amazing. Duncan would never have a le without DRob, Manu, Parker... , why not throw in Oberto for that matter. You could use that stupid statement with just about every NBA star with the exception of Magic.![]()
Dude, Duncan is the greatest player of this decade!!! I am a Mav fan, yet man enough to admit that. He is the best player of this generation, and therefore he should on top of any list comparing greatest athletes of all times, way before Shaq and Kobe.
As for the other guys, Lance is American, but in a sport that maybe less than 1% of the US follows. I don't think you have followed a stage of the Tour, or know any of the famous climbs which he won.
Schumacher is the greatest race care driver of all time. We can argue about this, but I think it takes much more skill to drive a car at over 220 mph than playing golf or baseball to be honest. The fact that most drivers retire at 36-37 while golfers and baseballers go on even in their 40s and more should tell you which takes more out of your body.
Zidane is the greatest soccer player in the last 20 years, don't let one moment in WC Final cloud your perspective on him. An overwhelming majority of people that follow soccer agree on this. Plus, the man really has won everything. 8 years before the incident the won the World Cup in a Final in which he scored two goals, and made him a living legend.
The funny thing is that he just mentioned Kareem as one of the all time greats, now he claims that he didn't play a part in helping Magic win the rings.
Which is it: Is Kareem really that great or not? Cause if Magic could win even w/out him than he really doesn't have much of a career in terms of all time great.
After Kareem retired, Magic went to one Finals in three seasons (1990, 91, 96) and lost 4-1. FWIW.Cause if Magic could win even w/out him than he really doesn't have much of a career in terms of all time great.
Are you refering to ONE game in 1980? Cause if my memory is correct, that is the one ring Magic won while the Kareem wasn't playing, and in that, he missed one game.
Plus, you should really check out Scottie's stats in the 98 Finals. His back was so bad he could barely walk through those playoffs. Those Finals and the whole playoffs really, should prove to people that Jordan really is on another planet in terms of comparing him to other players.
ONE GAME!! Not the le, one game!! He won one game without Kareem, but he had Kareem all the way until the series was 3-2 for the Lakers.
Yeah, the cupboard was really bare after Magic and Kareem. Jamaal Wilkes and Norm Nixon were total scrubs. And Magic sure had his hands full with...Caldwell Jones.I said Magic was the exception because of all the players that were named, he was the only that won the le without his injured co-pilot (Kareem).
For those who don't remember, go find game six of the 1998 Finals. Pippen is moving around like he's got a vending machine tied to his waist.Plus, you should really check out Scottie's stats in the 98 Finals. His back was so bad he could barely walk through those playoffs. Those Finals and the whole playoffs really, should prove to people that Jordan really is on another planet in terms of comparing him to other players.
How so? You are telling me that Magic could have performed the same feat every single game in those playoffs without Kareem?
Because that's what it means to win a championship without someone. For all I know even someone named Sleepy Floyd had a great playoff game against the Lakers in the 80s. goes to show that one game does not make a player, and it certainly doesn't equal winning a championship.
So does that somehow make Magic > MJ.....if you think that somehow maybe you should put the crack pipe down and quit jerking off to your Kobe poster....simple fact is this and I'm sure it's been said before Kobe is a cancer but his talent and his stranglehold on the Lakers organization have them putting up with his utter bull .
Let's see what happens when Phil decides to stop putting up with it and retire. The I guess Kobe'll have to blame Bynum or Odom for not winning. A truly great player carries his team to greatness (MJ, Duncan, Magic, Russell, Shaq). All Kobe has ever done is ed about playing with one of the top
10-15 players ever. Then just like Ray Allen said, he realized he couldn't win with what he had left so he asked for a trade.
Say what you want about Duncan but all he's ever done is stepped up his game for the playoffs and made his teams better. The mofo's won 4 les with 4 almost enitrely different supporting casts. Nuff said....next.
I remember that perfectly, I kept wondering how PJ left him in the game. He could not defend or do anything on offense.
Well Bird was doing just that, and?
Kobe is such a cancer he's won 3 NBA les and been to the Finals 5 times in 11 seasons. I'm sure the Lakers are counting the days until he retires. Give me a ing break.
Duncan wouldn't stay one minute in San Antonio if the Spurs surrounded him with Smush, Kwame, and Walton as his starting PG/C/SF.
* (with Shaq)
That's pretty funny - wasn't it kobe asking for a trade during the summer of 2007?
Perhaps, but if he stayed he'd score more than one point in the second half of a playoff game seven.
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