The Official I Wasn't That Impressed With The Dark Knight Thread

[CuckingFunt]

I've heard complaints that the movie was too long(the 4 movies in one line) and the plot was too confusing/unorganized. Also I have heard the Maggie Ghlyental(sp) is ugly complaint as well. I can't really comment on the 1st two complaints, because I haven't seen the movie yet. But Ghlyental(sp) being ugly is sort of a weak argument. Having superficial hot characters in a movie all the time sort of kill it. Having average looking people in a lead role isn't always bad and I actually hope it is more oftne used (Fillmoe said it best).

The Gyllenhaal thing is confusing to me, I must say.

For one thing, everyone complained about Katie Holmes because she was too arbitrarily pretty and obviously cast for her looks rather than her acting skills. Now Gyllenhaal isn't pretty enough? Just can't win that one.

Also, I'll agree that Maggie Gyllenhaal is far from being Miss USA, but ugly? Seriously?

[E20]

It's gotten to the point where I roll my eyes whenever the lead female position in a movie has to be a perfect 10 knockout it sort of throws away a sense of realism. Gyllenhaal isn't hot, but she isn't THAT bad on the eyes either.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

You had to get Maggie in there. Now you get to say things like:

-In the movies Heath Ledger blew one sibling up and just blew the other one.
-Which one did Ledger character give the bigger bang?
-And my personal favorite, Heath Ledger had sex with one in a movie and detonated the other one using a timebomb.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I've heard complaints that the movie was too long(the 4 movies in one line) and the plot was too confusing/unorganized. Also I have heard the Maggie Ghlyental(sp) is ugly complaint as well. I can't really comment on the 1st two complaints, because I haven't seen the movie yet.

Wait a second here...........you claim to be one of the nerds hyping it saying they portrayed Batman perfectly, yet you haven't even seen the movie? wtf?

[TheSanityAnnex]

The Gyllenhaal thing is confusing to me, I must say.

For one thing, everyone complained about Katie Holmes because she was too arbitrarily pretty and obviously cast for her looks rather than her acting skills. Now Gyllenhaal isn't pretty enough? Just can't win that one.

Also, I'll agree that Maggie Gyllenhaal is far from being Miss USA, but ugly? Seriously?

Seriously. I do not find her attractive at all. She looks like a human version of a Rugrats character. I've also never been fond of her acting capabilities.

[TheSanityAnnex]

-In the movies Heath Ledger blew one sibling up and just blew the other one.

You never cease to make me laugh.

[E20]

Wait a second here...........you claim to be one of the nerds hyping it saying they portrayed Batman perfectly, yet you haven't even seen the movie? wtf?

I'll wait for this movie to come out on DVD like I did with Batman Begins. CBF is a comic book fan and a bale nvt humper and he is waiting too. It makes the viewing more enjoyable for me. I already knwo what happens in the movie I read the plot line and summary and everything. Also I said they never portrayed him PERFECTLY, but as good as it is going to get in a real live adaption.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'll wait for this movie to come out on DVD like I did with Batman Begins.

You should also then wait to make comments about said movie.

[peewee's lovechild]

they were actually the same character with VERY little diffrences.

Are you re ed?

[E20]

You should also then wait to make comments about said movie.

I have. I've reserved comments on the length/plot and other major new aspects not introduced in Batman Begins, but I am making comments about batman in general from all movie series and comics and as well as comments about the movie from what I've seen on trailers and theaticral clips

[CuckingFunt]

Seriously. I do not find her attractive at all. She looks like a human version of a Rugrats character. I've also never been fond of her acting capabilities.

I guess I just see a difference between unattractive and ugly. Since I tend to reserve the word "ugly" for people who are either massively physically deformed or (and this is the more likely case) have an unavoidably flawed character/personality trait, it just strikes me as a bit strong for a young, fit girl with a slightly unconventional face.

[E20]

I guess I just see a difference between unattractive and ugly. Since I tend to reserve the word "ugly" for people who are either massively physically deformed or (and this is the more likely case) have an unavoidably flawed character/personality trait, it just strikes me as a bit strong for a young, fit girl with a slightly unconventional face.

Her upper lip area s it all up. It is reminiscent of a rat. sort of.

[peewee's lovechild]

You had to get Maggie in there. Now you get to say things like:

-In the movies Heath Ledger blew one sibling up and just blew the other one.
-Which one did Ledger character give the bigger bang?
-And my personal favorite, Heath Ledger had sex with one in a movie and detonated the other one using a timebomb.

[TheSanityAnnex]

True, but you aren't Bruce Wayne, he has a different standard of ugly. His ugly on a scale of 1-10 starts at 8.

I guess I just see a difference between unattractive and ugly. Since I tend to reserve the word "ugly" for people who are either massively physically deformed or (and this is the more likely case) have an unavoidably flawed character/personality trait, it just strikes me as a bit strong for a young, fit girl with a slightly unconventional face.

[peewee's lovechild]

Seriously. I do not find her attractive at all. She looks like a human version of a Rugrats character. I've also never been fond of her acting capabilities.

You've never seen Secretary.

[peewee's lovechild]

Her upper lip area s it all up. It is reminiscent of a rat. sort of.

If anything, it's her droopy cheeks that do her in.

But, she can actually act and she looks like an everday normal chick.

[brettn]

*****SPOLIER/S******



I don't wanna say overrated, because it was very fun and entertaining, but definitely overhyped. I was scrolling IMDB today and noticed it's overtaken the Godfather as the #1 movie of all time with a 9.6/10 rating. That's silly. Honestly, probably the best movie I've seen so far this year, but I wouldn't be suprised if that changes. Ledger was great, everyone else was subpar. I found the ending to be rather dissapointing and the fact that Nolan has stated that the Joker won't be back in future films is an even bigger dissapointment. Not his fault at all, but still a very unfortunate and dissapointing situation.

8/10.

[Spurminator]

Wall-e is still the best movie I've seen this year.

[mrsmaalox]

The Gyllenhaal thing is confusing to me, I must say.

For one thing, everyone complained about Katie Holmes because she was too arbitrarily pretty and obviously cast for her looks rather than her acting skills. Now Gyllenhaal isn't pretty enough? Just can't win that one.

Also, I'll agree that Maggie Gyllenhaal is far from being Miss USA, but ugly? Seriously?

She's an unconventional beauty. And so talented an actor that she can make you think she's hot, as in Secretary. Heck I even thought James Spader was hot in that!!

[stretch]

agreed 100 mother ing percent. i've already stated so in this forum and ours is not a very popular opinion with everyone eating up everything that gets fed to them. i thought it was a very good movie, but honestly i almost liked batman begins more than this one (ledger did make this movie) the hype was just too much and i left the theater feeling very much the same as you tsa.

stfu atx er

[balli]

Talking about this movie as one of the greatest of all time is beyond ridiculous. Through and through this thing is an over-hyped, over-acted, too much crammed into too long of a 100% big time summer blockbuster. Ledger was great, but it takes more than big summertime action, the Joker and a incredibly dumbed down and thinly veiled allegory to 9/11 to make an all-time great movie.

The one thing I found compelling about the movie, as an angry cynic, was the Joker's rage. It was a good idea to use the Joker as basically a critique against the supposedly good nature of humanity and initially there were a lot of places they could have taken that. However, I think instead of fully exploring that idea the film kind of wrote the Joker off as a crazy terrorist who's agenda didn't deserve serious consideration. There were some great ideas at play here regarding some rather deep and existential conundrums; on both the Joker and Batman's parts with the concept extending also into Dent, civilians and hostages. But the whole thing lost it's mojo and complexity when it was so dumbed down to make a point about 9/11 that even stupid people could understand the reference. It became less about the complex decisions and iden ies the characters were dealing with and more about how to use those characters to describe post 9/11 America. And that sucks- I just wanted a case study on the lives of Joker and Batman, not this swill about humanity being good enough to overcome the depressed and disfunctional, post 9/11 country we all live in.

On another level I just found the movie boring. The few action scenes did nothing for me and the sheer length of it was audacious, espcially considering how bloated and over-stuffed it was with unnecessary and incongruently paced story lines. During the movie, whenever the J man wasn't on screen, I was constantly asking myself, "when is this going to end?"

So in sum, I think the potential was there and I think the execution was horrible. All in all, I was fairly disappointed at how simple, formulaic, poorly paced and thinly stretched it was. 2 stars out of 4.

Wall-e is still the best movie I've seen this year.

BY FAR.

[E20]

I think you overanalyzed a comic book movie.....................................just a tad

[balli]

I think you overanalyzed a comic book movie.....................................just a tad

Hey man, a lot of people and the movie itself are acting like this is some sort of deep, sacred and all-time great movie. The purpose of my analysis is to show, in fact, that it is none of those things. I know it's just a comic book movie, but as long as people make it to be something more than that, I'll happily over-analyse just to show that it can't stand up to the level of critcism that actual great movies routinely have to deal with.

[E20]

Hey man, a lot of people and the movie itself are acting like this is some sort of deep, sacred and all-time great movie. The purpose of my analysis is to show, in fact, that it is none of those things. I know it's just a comic book movie, but as long as people make it to be something more than that, I'll happily over-analyse just to show that it can't stand up to the level of critcism that actual great movies routinely have to deal with.

All-time great comic book movie? Yes.
Best comic movie adaption? IMO Yes
One of the best movies ever? It can probably crack a top 150 or 200 list.

Only one person has taken it for something it isn't and that is peewee. But according to a vast majority of viewers and critics it has lived up to it's hype for what it's main goal was. For some people too much hype will sway their opnions in a negative way, something along the lines of non-conformity.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

All-time great comic book movie? Yes.
Best comic movie adaption? IMO Yes
One of the best movies ever? It can probably crack a top 150 or 200 list.

Only one person has taken it for something it isn't and that is peewee. But according to a vast majority of viewers and critics it has lived up to it's hype for what it's main goal was. For some people too much hype will sway their opnions in a negative way, something along the lines of non-conformity.

I think that's fair.