For comparison with David West:
6' 8.25"
6' 9.25"
226
7' 4.25" - wingspan
9' 0.5"
8.0
28.5 - no step vertical jump
31.5 - max vertical jump
11
12.18 - lane agility
3.43 - 3/4 court sprint
Standing reach difference is an inch in favor of West. Otherwise, practically identical.
I. Hustle 5' 10"
5' 10.5" - with shoes
250 lbs - weight
6' 0" - wingspan
5' 11.5" - standing reach
50.7 - body fat
2.5 - no step vertical jump
3.0 - max vertical jump
2.1 - reps bench press
300.29 - 3/4 court sprint
In comparison I don’t think I would make the team
Let's hope he's still improving his game, including the outside shot, since he knows he can't play center anymore.
He looks much thinner in one of his recent pics from the RMR than he did in that video, but there again, he'd probably have bulked up to play center in college.
He has a great at ude around the rim, thinks the ball is his. Love to see him and Gist paired with Tim at center.
Well...I've been right there with SenorSpur the whole time saying we should give him a shot. I have been impressed with him since watching the first 3 summer league games. If he keeps shooting well and continues to hustle like he has shown he can we will have acquired 2 young, hustling, dirty work forwards. We may yet have a ring or two left before the era of our stars ends.
link to where I said spurs were not signing him
Spurs are building a team that can dunk, that's for sure.
james gist is not the next dennis rodman. dennis rodman is the next james gist.
tolliver's signing is good but i don't know how he will fit the team. if the spurs sign both tolliver and gist, then they will have two undersized power forwards. unless you count mahinmi's 10 minutes of playing time last year, the spurs will have three incoming rookie power forwards. then add bonner and duncan and the spurs will have a ridiculous amount of power forwards. either they force tolliver/gist to play some SF, or someone's got to go.
eh, I like the signing, but that kinda clutters the frontcourt, especially if they decide to sign Gist, and I sure as hope they do.
My guess is that Bonner is on his way out.
From your keyboard to Pops ears...
Did you not understand when a couple of us told you he was a PF yesterday?
to the Benefactor. I feel ya.
Signing Tolliver is a low risk move. Clearly he has some upside and is a good shooter - at least for now. There's still time to develop his defense and other areas of his game. The fact that he played down low in college is yet another plus. This guy has potential written all over him. If he does develop into a productive rotation player and ultimately moves ahead of Bonner - even better. All of a sudden the Spurs will have a tradeable asset in Bonner.
All of a sudden, a reserve unit of Hill, Tolliver, Mahinmi and Gist (assuming he's earned a roster spot) has the makings of a very productive, and stout bench. That gives the Spurs a good mixture of offense, defense, youth, athleticism, and on-the-ball pressure. I absolutely love the prospects and the matchup possibilities!
Last edited by SenorSpur; 07-23-2008 at 06:07 PM.
I think he turns into Oberto with a vertical and a three point shot.
A heady, scrappy, big man who loves to play physical, take charges, block shots, etc.
Some folks thought I was crazy when I said we'd sign him, look who's laughing now.
By the way, like Chump I suspect that training camp and preseason will be a battle for the shooting PF spot.
Like I said last night, they will let Tolliver and Bonner battle it out. Tolliver wins, Bonner gets traded. Bonner wins, Tolliver gets waived or more than likely dropped down to the Toros.
I really, really like this move! I don't think it can be under emphasized.
Tolliver in action:
Defending the paint:
Nailing the jump shot:
He looks so damn lean compared to what he used to be. That is crazy.
Two signings in 24 hours? My head is starting to spin!
Are we sure that he didn't have a fat twin at Creighton?!
Hope the Spurs gave him a drug test, the guy must be on something to make such a drastic change!
the nba comparison for Anthony Tolliver - Eduardo Nájera
I like the signing. I hope it's a sign that Bonner is on the move soon.
Gist signed next would really make me happy.
LMFAO!!!I. Hustle 5' 10"
5' 10.5" - with shoes
250 lbs - weight
6' 0" - wingspan
5' 11.5" - standing reach
50.7 - body fat
2.5 - no step vertical jump
3.0 - max vertical jump
2.1 - reps bench press
300.29 - 3/4 court sprint
In comparison I don’t think I would make the teamI wouldn't make it either I'm a little too short.
Tolliver's Evil Twin:
Playing center, 30lbs heavier, can't shoot (27%), but can take it aggressively to the rim!
Hopefully the Spurs have caught a few guys who are rising at just the right time. Tolliver's progression from a post player in college to a perimeter shooter seems legit, after consistently shooting good percentages recently in Europe, the D League, and the summer leagues. I imagine the Spurs were most hopeful & watchful for Hill & Mahinmi, so if they also add Gist & Tolliver it'll be an unexpected bonus. Four rookies is a lot for a championship caliber team-- that would put an end to people characterizing the Spurs as old or conservative. Popovich will have his work cut out for him, incorporating 3 new guys (Mahinmi is at least a little bit familiar with the system), but, hey, that's what he gets paid for, right?
Signing Tolliver is a low risk move. Clearly he has some upside and is a good shooter - at least for now. There's still time to develop his defense and other areas of his game. The fact that he played down low in college is yet another plus. This guy has potential written all over him. If he does develop into a productive rotation player and ultimately moves ahead of Bonner - even better. All of a sudden the Spurs will have a tradeable asset in Bonner.
All of a sudden, a reserve unit of Hill, Tolliver, Mahinmi and Gist (assuming he's earned a roster spot) has the makings of a very productive, and stout bench. That gives the Spurs a good mixture of offense, defense, youth, athleticism, and on-the-ball pressure. I absolutely love the prospects and the matchup possibilities!
Now that Tolliver is signed, I recalled the rumor about the Spurs having at least a
"passing interest" Nets rookie PF Ryan Anderson.
That said, can someone who is familiar with both compare the two? I'm interested in how they match up.
From my early findings, it appears that Anderson may be the better shooter, but is a weak defender.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...playerId=19084
Eh? Look at Boston for inspiration:
Glen Davis - Rookie
Rajon Rondo - Sop re
Leon Powe - Sop re
Kendirck Perkins - Drafted from HS. 5 years. (If he stayed 4 years in college, he would be a Rookie).
Boston has proven that you could do it, why can't the Spurs?
Anthony Tolliver - Played 4 years in college, 1 year in D-league/Germany
James Gist - Played 4 years in college
George Hill - Played 3 years in college
Mahinmi - Played 1 year in D-league
Looks like it's Hill and Mahinmi who aren't seasoned!
[QUOTE=ceperez;2682435]Tolliver in action:
Defending the paint:
That dude looks like Bonner.
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