It will be a good thing, very good thing. And Jason Kidd will return to his all-star self. No doubt.
Not trying to mix it up, but Howard is no where near KMart or Vince. He has the POTENTIAL to show up and be a guy that could help accentuate Kidd, but until he shows some inkling of consistency I wouldn't put him anywhere near that converation.
I would like to see GG blow up because he is some major talent (and he's a former OSU commit), I just haven't seen crap out of him yet. He had all the opportunity in the world on last year's junk Celtics and Tony Allen outplayed him.
The Mavs are 4th best in the division now...they fell so danged fast...
DD
Trading for Jason Kidd will go down as one of the worst trades ever (for Dallas).
Yeah we'll see how far the Yao/T-Mac/Artest train wreck goes as they play another round of Injured List Musical Chairs next season.
And still top 10 in the NBA. That's not nearly the pejorative you think it is.
They almost didn't make the playoffs, won all of about 2 games against teams above .500 after the Kidd trade, and still got bounced convincingly against an inexperienced Hornets team in the 1st round. How exactly did any part of their game get better AFTER the Kidd trade?
I know what you're trying to say, but they were also like 6 games out of the top seed. Pretty much every West playoff team "almost didn't make the playoffs."
Hornets are pretty goddamn good, a top-five team. They were better than Dallas last year. The Mavs could've been more compe ive in that series, but the better team won. What is this "inexperienced" ?won all of about 2 games against teams above .500 after the Kidd trade, and still got bounced convincingly against an inexperienced Hornets team in the 1st round.
Kidd enjoys a lofty reputation because he's one of the greatest PGs to ever play the game. It's not like Kidd started sucking after the trade last year though; he wasn't nearly as good of a player in New Jersey as he had been the previous few years.
Kidd seemed to enter last season with a really sour at ude, constantly ing about wanting a trade. I'd be surprised if he doesn't have a better season this year, being where he wants to be from the start of training camp.
Well if you want to argue with facts be my guest. The defensive numbers are there for anybody to see, look em up.
The Hornets were so inexperienced that they took the 4-time champion Spurs to 7 games. I guess if they were experienced, they would have kicked the Spurs ass.
Jason Kidd's "experience" really helped keep Chris Paul in check.
Lame. There always seems to be a suprise and many times it is some team with less experience playing above its head getting to a certain point.
Clippers 06 WC Semis 7 games (over Phx)
Cavs 06 EC Semis 7 Games (3-2 lead over Det)
Seattle 05 WC Semis 6 games (tied Spurs 2-2)
TWolves 04 WCF 6 games
None of those teams ever had any success in the conf before (recently) and only the Cavs proved to have some sort of staying power.
Did you get an F in sarcasm?
Actually, the Suns won that series, Mike.
To paraphrase: "There always seems to be a surprise team that plays above its head." Funny you would say that because that often describes Oklahoma State. I guess Marist is the only that beat them with any staying power.
Geez, mono, how many log ins do you have?
Are you trying to tell me that you made the conclusion that in the 20 games or so the Mavs played with Jason Kidd, they somehow got BETTER defensively? You lost arguably your top 2 defenders on that team in Diop and Harris. These "defensive #'s" you're talking about...exactly how many of those were against above .500 teams?
I cannot believe MavFan believes that the Mavs got better defensively as a team with a ancient Jason Kidd replacing Diop and Harris.
It was a mixed bag defensively. We sorely missed Diop's ability to contest shots at the rim, but at the same time, Kidd helped improve our perimeter defense, he created turnovers by playing free safety on defense, he's the smartest player on the court at all times, etc. He just can't guard the lightning-quick guys like Paul, Barbosa, Parker, etc. Whereas Kidd is the guy you want to check Baron Davis, Devin Harris the guy you want to take Chris Paul.
You didn't bother to look up the numbers, did you?
I cannot believe MavFan believes that the Mavs got better defensively as a team with a ancient Jason Kidd replacing Diop and Harris.
The Hornets are a top-five team and they just signed Robert Horry 2.0 with their MLE. If you think they're a fluke or not for real, you're in for a surprise next season.
Junk Celtics? The ones that won a championship? Because that was last year's team. I guess you mean the team from 2 years ago... and that's what laziness and lack of discipline (an OSU staple) will get you - a spot on the bench.
[If you need examples of the above, please look at Eddie Sutton's drinking habits, Sean Sutton's record, and the criminal histories of Marcus Dove, Mario Boggan, and JamesOn Curry.]
He's an idiot, there's nothing more to say. Maybe his daughter got sick or he lost his job again.
Was oviously supposed to say against not over, my error. Deduction skills, if you had them, would tell you that each team was listed at its furthest point in the playoffs.
The junk Celtics were the year before; again think before you speak, makes you look less dumb.
Must be same lines of thinking as the aggrot ronnie; aggrot thing I guess.
Nice to see ronnie is still obsessed with me, tho.
Seriously, Marist, Eddie and my sick daughter?
Hey how's Coach Fran doing? What's it like to be 0-16 in the B12? How's Kellen Heard doing? Had any big logs fall and kill some students lately?
Jeebus grow up and get some new material.
Last edited by MajorMike; 07-31-2008 at 05:54 PM.
They need to take a look at their football brothers on how hard it is to do as well after you snuck up on everyone the year before; and avoid injuries; and the ineptness of Scott in the playoffs.
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