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Why he's a greta player!Ughhh i hope they don't
This is what you get drafting a 2nd round talent with your 1st round pick. Hill will be okay in the long run, maybe even medium run, but it was a bad pick at that spot.
Why he's a greta player!Ughhh i hope they don't
I just don't see who would want Hill in a trade. He hasnt' wowed anyone in summer league so wtf? I'm not convinced the Spurs have soured on Hill but why pick him if you're going to pick up Pargo? Maybe they didn't think they had a shot at Pargo?
Maybe they haven't soured on Hill but they're going after Pargo just cause they have the space and nothing else to burn it on? I don't get it.
This makes u wonder exactly how much the Spurs wasted away a valuable first round pick yet again in the draft this season. This year especially when there were so many good players still left on board.
Regardless, Pargo would definitely be a great signingHopefully it's a trade that ships Bonner/Vaughn and not a FA agency signing.
if this is true, it would be the best move the spurs have made as of yet....none of the rookies, or kurt thomas will take us to the real game. pargo on somenights is better then parker and would give both parker and manu rest during the season, while not turning us into a losing machine, not only that, grabbing pargo makes NO's team worse.....if we have the chance at getting pargo and dont get him cos, some of the dummys in here say he is to short, then i ask......why the heck sign kurt thomas? im all for pargo and getting rid of hill and vaughn, neither one of them is gonna help the spurs now or in the next few seasons.....
So a little over 2 draftees a year.
Agree that the pick was a waste, If Hill makes the roster he is going to be asked to play point guard most of the time, something he showed he isn't comfortable doing in summer league play. If Popavtch wanted a pure point guard, why didn't he take Mario Chalmers then?This makes u wonder exactly how much the Spurs wasted away a valuable first round pick yet again in the draft this season. This year especially when there were so many good players still left on board.
Regardless, Pargo would definitely be a great signing
And backup point guard certainly didn't address the spurs greatest needs. The #1 priority going into this off season should have been getting a tall, mobile 3 that can shoot the rock, followed closely with a shotblocking type big man to help Duncan. Thomas is a good rebounder and position defender, but he doesn't block too many shots. Waiting to see what Mahinmi can do, but not too hopeful after summer league.
Using that logic, the pick at #26 should have been Donte Greene, who was picked shortly afterwards. And selecting Greene likely would have opened the door for the spurs to enter the Ron Artest sweepstakes (IF they wanted to go that route) since the Kings wanted Greene.
Anyhow, here the spurs are now, looking at signing Pargo who is proven NBA ready at either point guard or shooting guard at a very reasonable 2m/yr.
This would be an excellent signing IMO. If they pull this off it would make up somewhat for missing Greene. Pargo gives the spurs a great backup to Parker who IMO is ready to plug n play immediately, whereas Hill is going to need a few years of adjusting to a new position and talent level.
Hehe, for once I solidly agree with your post, mrspurs
Pargo....Hmmm I guess...
One point that has gotten lost is just how difficult it is to convert an amateur SG into an NBA-ready PG. The PG position, similar to the QB position in football, is, without question, the toughest position to learn in basketball.Agree that the pick was a waste, If Hill makes the roster he is going to be asked to play point guard most of the time, something he showed he isn't comfortable doing in summer league play. If Popavtch wanted a pure point guard, why didn't he take Mario Chalmers then?
The learning curve and the conversion process itself can take years to complete - if it's successful at all. , it takes years for natural PGs, who have previous college or international experience, to adjust to the position at the NBA level. Remember how long it took for our young, talented, French PG to make the adjustment. The road to the NBA is littered with young SGs, who never made the transition.
The Spurs sold their souls on Hill. It's still waay to early to call Hill a bust, but it may be overly optimistic to expect immediate contributions from him this season. However, it does make one question why they didn't take a flyer on a more NBA-ready PG like Chalmers.
Meanwhile, a potential Pargo acquisition would be a smart one. Just don't depend on him winning a Game 7 for you.
Last edited by SenorSpur; 08-05-2008 at 09:18 AM.
Pargo joining the Spurs might mean less minutes for Hill and sayonara to Fin.
But if it opens a trade and a possibility to play Gist, then it's all good.
Seems like Hill has not impressed.
pargo > hill
pargo > vaughn
carlos arroyo was also contacted by the spurs, but he choose Maccabi
it's ridiculous if you guys think pargo will be a good signing. spurs have to be desperate to sign someone who shoots 39% in the regular season. pargo is the person who single handedly saved the spurs from losing to the hornets. when the hornets counted on pargo to back up chris paul, he shot a whopping 28% against the spurs. his "instant offense" consists of bricking and missing big shots. pargo is also a volume shooter. he'll need to shoot a lot to score a lot. will not fit the spurs at all.
Got a link on that? It'd be yet another strike against what the Spurs think of Hill.
Unfortunately.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...t=Pargo&page=2
cheaper than that... a bargain for the role he'll have if he ever makes it to the team
Adding Pargo would be great since Hill hasn't exactly wowed us with his scoring abilities just yet as Pargo can do. But then again, it would show that the Spurs don't have as much faith in him than the day they drafted him.
Also, if the Spurs signed Pargo it would make our backcourt the smallest in the NBA. I mean look at it. , I'll even add the SF position:
Bowen 6-7/Udoka 6-5
Mason 6-5/Manu 6-6
Tony 6-3/Pargo 6-1/Hill 6-2/Vaughn 6-1
Of those 3 positions we only have 2 players at least 6-6, that's pretty damn small. Especially considering Hill has the potential to be a player just like Pargo, if not better, would make this signing somewhat redundant. If we sign Pargo, there's gotta be a trade coming.
thanks timvp and fromwaydowntown
You're welcome.
Just because there is Pargo-smoke doesn't mean there is Hill-hate with the Spurs' FO....
Bookmark this thread, it might be worth keeping and laughing at later.
hate is such a strong word. desilusion, displeasure, dissatisfaction, failure is more like it.
I am sure they still beleive in Hill though.
http://www.primerahora.com/noticia/b...orrecta/216747Got a link on that? It'd be yet another strike against what the Spurs think of Hill.
Unfortunately.
La primera opción del armador Carlos Arroyo era permanecer en la NBA. Sin embargo, a pesar de que conversó con equipos tales como Denver, Miami, Sacramento, San Antonio y Golden State, ninguna de las ofertas presentadas fue de su agrado y, por ello, decidió estampar su firma para unirse al club Maccabi Tel Aviv de la liga israelí.
People don't get it: They picked Hill because they saw in him the most defensive-minded, NBA-ready PG available. Period. Pop has said this quite explicitly.
People can disagree with this opinion all they want, but Pop and RC are the ones paid to make these decisions, not you.
All this time I've been under the illusion I was getting paid to make these decisions, not them. Thank God: I've been worried about my paychecks.
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