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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    these kids don't have to get married.

    palin only has to say "they're getting married" for 2 months.

    if they were going to marry, they would have done it 5 months ago.

    conservatives will eat anything served to them by their idols.

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    I concur.
    I know IF one of my daughter's became pregnant NO WAY would I agree to an abortion. That being said I, yes as a so called liberal, do preach abstinence in my home. Yeah, that's right. I may be pro-choice but I am against teens having sex.
    I run a very conservative home although I'm a progressive thinker.
    Mucho contradictions (unless I totally misread your post).

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    pregnancy in alaska is tied to drilling.

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    these kids don't have to get married.

    palin only has to say "they're getting married" for 2 months.

    if they were going to marry, they would have done it 5 months ago.

    conservatives will eat anything served to them by their idols.
    Perhaps Levi should have stuck to eating.

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    pregnancy in alaska is tied to drilling.
    Maybe Levi misunderstood when McCain said "Drill here, drill now!".

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    And would Palin's daughter's boyfriend need to register as a sex offender if they move to DC?

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    pregnancy in alaska is tied to drilling.
    It must have been a gusher.

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    i think "come to alaska and drill" was misinterpreted.

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    Yeah, her mom crying "Drill! Drill! Drill!" was misinterpreted.

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    Daughter ed up. Politics is a business. Stupid kid should have realized what was at stake.


    Palin could have been like Obammassiah and said "I dun wunna punish my daughta wit a baby!"

    Ive finally placed you. Gtown, welcome back to another screen name.

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    "I dun wunna punish my daughta wit a baby!"
    This racist characterization is even more stupid since he surely is more articulate than you.

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    I am much more concerned about the actions of Palin as a mother. She agreed to run for VP knowing the condition in which her child is. She is the one responsible for thrusting her daughter into this national spotlight. It is not like she was already running and this happened, and she had to deal with it on the fly. She is not naive- she knew it would come out. She, as a mother, made the choice that running for VP was more important than protecting her daughter, and I personally have issues with that. People are blaming the media and politicos for putting her daugher in this position at this difficult time, but it is her mother- and her mother alone- who chose to put her in this awful spot.

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    It would have come out in Alaska anyway, unless they decided to give Bristol mono again and make it Sarah's baby

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    Yeah, the fact that he's 17 and says dumb on his myspace page isn't the sum total of his character, but it doesn't bode well all the same.
    Myspace takes your birthday and automatically adjusts the age when you see it. That means he was 15 or 16, not 17, when he last accessed th page.

    Again, who in the media is on his 'friends list' to be able to see the private entry? This would mean a friend accessed the page, or a former friend to leak to a reporter. Now this is even assuming this is the same person in question.

    Don't you see, there is no way to verify it. I don't know abou you, but I don't trust the media. Tell me you're not dumb enough to...

    I've been to one of these young kids weddings. It sucked because the whole time the minister was going on about the sanc y of marriage and making God a part of their marriage, I and most of the people in attendance knew it wasn't going to work. It didn't.
    Yes, the ceremony is oftem a joke under the cir stances. Quite frankly, I don't care if they marry or not. As long as the father takes his fair share in the child's upbringing and responsibility, does it matter? Yes, it is normally better for a child to be raised by both parents in the same household. As long as he isn't an absent father, I'm OK with it.

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    I concur.
    I know IF one of my daughter's became pregnant NO WAY would I agree to an abortion. That being said I, yes as a so called liberal, do preach abstinence in my home. Yeah, that's right. I may be pro-choice but I am against teens having sex.
    I run a very conservative home although I'm a progressive thinker.
    Maybe you are a libertarian?

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    Well, this is turning out to be quite the turn of political judo by the old Maverick.

    I haven't seen such an outpouring of utter glee for a political pick from evangelicals in ages. I also had no idea just how highly esteemed Gov. Palin is in NRA circles.

    The attacks on her family in the past several days have galvanized the conservative base behind McCain in ways unimaginable just a week ago.

    I did not expect liberal women to unload on her like this. This is not just political opposition. This is seething, raging hatred. And I'm hearing so much rhetoric about how she's a bad mother who shouldn't be working, etc., etc., that in any other context would be decried by liberals as the most deplorable kind of sexism.

    I can't say I understand it. Is it kind of like how Clarence Thomas is despised because he's a black conservative who became successful? Or it is a painful reprisal of high school for some of these liberal women, where the pretty, popular girl gets all the attention and gets elected Student Council President while they all are totally ignored in their overalls and their Explorer Club meetings?

    All I know is that in my circle of influence, there are a lot of working women struggling to balance the demands of career and the needs of their kids, who die a little every time the kids make bad choices against how they've been raised, who have experienced the condemnation and guilt of daring to leave their kitchens and their kids to enter the working world, condemnation and guilt both from their self-critical selves and from everyday jerks ready to pass judgment, who see their own lives reflected in that of Governor Palin. So please, by all means, keep attacking her and her family. We need to make sure these women are good and pissed off at liberal Democrats so they will deliver votes for McCain.

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    In JoeChal's defense, it's perfectly reasonable to believe in widely-accepted rights for all while not wanting or expecting to employ them yourself. In fact, that's what civil society is all about.

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    Well, this is turning out to be quite the turn of political judo by the old Maverick.

    I haven't seen such an outpouring of utter glee for a political pick from evangelicals in ages. I also had no idea just how highly esteemed Gov. Palin is in NRA circles.

    The attacks on her family in the past several days have galvanized the conservative base behind McCain in ways unimaginable just a week ago.

    I did not expect liberal women to unload on her like this. This is not just political opposition. This is seething, raging hatred. And I'm hearing so much rhetoric about how she's a bad mother who shouldn't be working, etc., etc., that in any other context would be decried by liberals as the most deplorable kind of sexism.

    I can't say I understand it. Is it kind of like how Clarence Thomas is despised because he's a black conservative who became successful? Or it is a painful reprisal of high school for some of these liberal women, where the pretty, popular girl gets all the attention and gets elected Student Council President while they all are totally ignored in their overalls and their Explorer Club meetings?

    All I know is that in my circle of influence, there are a lot of working women struggling to balance the demands of career and the needs of their kids, who die a little every time the kids make bad choices against how they've been raised, who have experienced the condemnation and guilt of daring to leave their kitchens and their kids to enter the working world, condemnation and guilt both from their self-critical selves and from everyday jerks ready to pass judgment, who see their own lives reflected in that of Governor Palin. So please, by all means, keep attacking her and her family. We need to make sure these women are good and pissed off at liberal Democrats so they will deliver votes for McCain.

    i think mccain had your vote before she decided to force her kid into marriage at gunpoint.

    no big deal. just a lady (this time) that chose her self-interest over the well-being of her seemingly ignored child.

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    A baby having a baby. Nothing new in today's world.

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    I can't say I understand it. Is it kind of like how Clarence Thomas is despised because he's a black conservative who became successful? Or it is a painful reprisal of high school for some of these liberal women, where the pretty, popular girl gets all the attention and gets elected Student Council President while they all are totally ignored in their overalls and their Explorer Club meetings?
    Sounds like a concern troll, but I'll bite. Clarence Thomas was totally unqualified for a seat on the Supreme Court. He still is - positively one of the worst in our history.

    That's a lot like Palin. Just a joke of a candidate - at this level. Fine as a governor, I suppose, but that's not for me to decide. As a V.P., absolutely a joke. That's what people are reacting to. And don't do the sexist thing and expect all women to automatically back any other woman. Clintonistas saw through this and were insulted.

    As for attacking their home life, there is no doubt some schadenfreude here. We've had fundie gibberish pushed on us for years, and now as standard policy, that people have gotten really pissed off about it. Teenage pregnancy rates are going up and abstinence-only education is one reason why. Our compe iveness in R&D is dropping and 'teach the debate' creationists are one reason why. People are pushing back at a remarkably hypocritical woman and mother and unfortunately there is some glee mixed in with the admonitions.

    For my part, I'd like the family to be left alone. The real deal is that Palin appears to be a remarkably driven individual who has a knack for burnishing herself, leaving a figurative wake of bodies behind, and does not actually govern that well, and is also remarkably incurious about the world outside of Alaska.

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    McCain got swayed to pick Palin over Lieberman. What a maverick.

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    no big deal. just a lady (this time) that chose her self-interest over the well-being of her seemingly ignored child.
    I would appreciate it if you would repeat these comments to at least 10 undecided female voters per day.

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    I would appreciate it if you would repeat these comments to at least 10 undecided female voters per day.
    sorry but that would cut out too much time from my abstinence campaign.

    besides, if they haven't deciced by now they'll just let someone decide for them.

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    sorry but that would cut out too much time from my abstinence campaign.
    As a teenager, I was an unwilling participant in a relatively successful abstinence campaign....

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