Cuban publishes Howard bashing emails

[Anti.Hero]

That's pretty funny of Cuban to do. Nice move.

[Red Hawk #21]

This post caught my attention:

Pingback by Mark Cuban Exposes Racist S bags - EmptyTheBench.com — September 19, 2008 @ 9:40 am

Wow… i am disgusted by these e-mail’s you’ve recieved. The people who e-mailed you are the exact reason why Howard made the statement he did. I think the crazy about all of it is the fact that these people are posting in defense of our “GREAT AMERICA” but are so ignorant and racist that they are basically making an arguement for Josh’s defense. I think most of these people e-mailing like this should get their hate mongering white asses off the computer and read a book or do something of substance to expand their tiny ing brains. And hearing this from men in service is disgusting as well, if this is what America stands for based on the men who fight for our country I wouldn’t stand for that either.

[G-Nob]

All the hate mails were more than likely directed to him. And I'm sure we all know he doesn't give a what other people think of him. But these emails weren't directed at him.


Props to Cuban for exposing those racists idiots.

Racist idiots are everywhere. Including this forum. Do I have to remind people the language going on in here during the Hornets series? Cuban is protecting his player, by shifting the focus to the idiots. How about teaching your player to take some accountablility for his actions instead of attacking his critics?

"Its a private matter." That Cuban's normal response. If it was a private matter, you wouldn't have to spin when your player you can't control goes on the radio and says he likes to smoke dope.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I'm sure that Rick Carlisle, with his long history of keeping headcases under control, will put an end to all of the problems with J-Ho.

[monosylab1k]

I know I'm gonna catch for this from mono, and probably deservedly so, but this whole episode makes me like Josh Howard a little bit more. Not that I'm opposed to moving him, but I want full value back, not some scrub. This team isn't going anywhere, anyways, at least for quite some time.

My feelings towards Josh here really don't have anything to do with what he actually said. He can believe whatever he likes, smoke whatever he likes, etc. if he gives 100% to the team. My interest in him only extends to the 94 feet of the basketball court and all that implies.

But with this incident, talking about weed, reckless driving, yelling at a reporter asking him a fair question, and (by far the worst IMO) the direct insubordination to his head coach in the middle of a playoff series, Josh has without a doubt shown everybody that after he inked his big ass contract, he now feels that he is above the team, above behaving like a professional, and that the rules no longer apply to him.

He's a huge distraction, a cancer, and apparently has put more effort into his budding NFL, MLB, and NASCAR careers this offseason than he has in his NBA career.

I don't see him returning to form, I see him continuing this downward spiral. And say what you will, but this team still has Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Kidd, and a whole slew of guys that tend to play up to the level that the team "mood" takes them. If someone is being a downer on the entire team, he needs to go immediately, as he will directly affect the play of guys like JET, Stack, George, etc. But if the team has the high spirits like they did in 06, they're still capable of making a splash in the playoffs.

I don't want Josh gone because I disagree with his beliefs or what types of recreation he chooses, I want him gone because he's killing my favorite sports team.

[50 cent]

LMAO....that Mavs are imploding and Josh Howard is the bomb that keeps going off.

[Gino]

I don't know if I could take J-Ho on my team if I played with him or as a fan. He just seems to be the type of guy I wouldn't like around me that is always running his mouth and thinking he's the . Cuban probably has only one option left: defending him because these antics just make it harder to trade him.

Examples include:
-Comparing himself to D-Wade before the Finals based upon their 2 college games. Then D-Wade puts on the greatest Finals performance ever (according to Hollinger)
-Continually runs his mouth during games to opponents and officials
-Calls the Suns “whiners” on Rome’s radio show
-Admits to smoking pot just before the playoffs
-Chokes in the big games (often by taking too many jumpers)
-Caught street-racing
-Makes excuses for his poor performance that become great quotes (“y’all crazy, man”)

These are just the things he does in public. I have to think that he probably hits Jason Terry in the nuts in the locker room and made Dirk run away to Australia and cry himself to sleep every night after the ’06 Finals.

I don’t have much room to speak, of course, because Amare is a moron and his selfishness and stupidity may have cost the Suns opportunities for deeper playoff runs. However, all I have are comments in Jack McCallum’s book and images of him jumping off the bench in the ’07 playoffs… he’s talking a big game about being dedicated to defense and loving the new coaching staff this summer, so he has a chance to prove himself to me again. Josh has provided much more public fodder for me to theorize greatly on the way he may act in private. I only see Cuban rushing to his defense… not Dirk, not JET, not Stack.

That whole organization is kind of a joke.

[monosylab1k]

Raping babies is a hobby of mine

[Findog]

America! Yeah! I'm an Internet Tough Guy!

[timvp]

I'm almost feeling sorry for Mav Fan. But not quite.

[Findog]

I'm almost feeling sorry for Mav Fan. But not quite.

Why? Everything is already broken, and has been for quite some time...May 2007 by my best estimates.

[Tully365]

Props to Cuban for exposing those racists idiots.

That's pretty funny of Cuban to do. Nice move.

[Gino]

I'm almost feeling sorry for Mav Fan. But not quite.

Not on this board. The Mav fans on this board all "pretend" to root for another team while spouting KFC jokes all day.

Maybe its just fallout from their team getting punked by an 8th seed.

[monosylab1k]

My mother is the Bukkake Queen of Suffolk County. Next time you're in town give her a call and shoot a load in her eye, she loves it!

[koriwhat]

I want him gone because he's killing my favorite sports team.

you can't kill something that has been dead for a long long time already. mavs suck!

[century]

Howard is a piece of and deserves every e-mail he got. No big deal. Billionaires apparently are prone to knee-jerk reactions too. It is Cuban's blog, who cares what he puts in there. No one's obligated to read it. Next.

[duncan228]

Cuban removes e-mails on Howard

[Obstructed_View]

Maybe the best move by Cuban, ever. Josh stupidly said something without thinking about the potential consequences, and so did the emailers that got their IPs and addresses published. A rare thumbs up moment for Cubes from me.

[Biernutz]

E-mailers to Mark Cuban's Blog have now been warned......If you send a e-mail Cuban doesn't like he will post your address and your IP number for all to see. From now on only happy thoughts for the Mavericks. No more of that negative stuff.

[SenorSpur]

Howard is a piece of and deserves every e-mail he got. No big deal. Billionaires apparently are prone to knee-jerk reactions too. It is Cuban's blog, who cares what he puts in there. No one's obligated to read it. Next.

C'mon man. Howard is indeed a piece of , as well as a stupid, immature, misguided punk. Based upon his antics of the past several months, he obviously doesn't give a about anyone or anything except his bank account and the perception of his homies.

However to say that he, or Cuban for that matter, deserved the racist slurs that were directed at them through these emails is out of bounds. Way out of bounds.

When you get down to brass tax, who is J-Ho really hurting? Himself. He's costing himself millions of dollars in endorsements and sacrificing the respect of his teammates, coaches and fans around the league. In no way, does this condone his actions, I'm saying it didn't warrant that level of response.

As a Spurs fan, I can't stand him or Cuban. However, I would never go that far across the line - and don't believe anyone else should either. In fact, the people that took it to that level are living, breathing examples of a sick segment of society that "rears its head", like groundhogs, whenever controversy ensues with minority athletes. They're jealous of the cash these guys are making and many times have far more skeletons in their own closet than the people they're directing their hate.

These folks aren't Mavs fans. They're nothing more than small-minded, racist cowards, who hide behind their computers and thinly-veiled patriotism - rather than the traditional hooded, white sheets.

[Spurs Brazil]

We know Howard can play, but there's little value in what he has to say
By Stephen A. Smith
ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: September 18, 2008
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Dallas forward Josh Howard stands for "The Star-Spangled Banner" before a Mavericks game in April.


Josh Howard may not be the Dallas Mavericks' best player, but he's their most complete player. He has a better post-up game than Dirk Nowitzki and better all-around skills than anyone else on their roster. Until six months ago he was universally recognized as the Mavs' best chance at capturing a championship, so much so that seemingly every team in the National Basketball Association inquired about his availability.



Now he's known these days as the franchise's resident idiot, someone who is gainfully employed solely because of his ability to bounce and shoot a basketball. A character seemingly destined to embarrass his way into exile from a league that's garnered him millions of dollars because he won't stop perpetuating his ignorance and hostility to the masses, simultaneously casting an ominous shadow over his contemporaries.



A show of hands from any NBA player out there who's inclined to invite Josh Howard to his next shindig? Thought so!

Howard's Words

"Outside The Lines" debates Josh Howard's controversial comments about "The Star-Spangled Banner." Watch
Allen Iverson couldn't be reached Thursday for an explanation as to why Howard would use Iverson's annual flag-football event as a forum for vulgarly disrespecting America's national anthem. I am not surprised. Who on earth would want to associate themselves with the radioactive Howard right now?



For those who didn't see the story, Howard -- against the backdrop of a presidential election rife with banter about patriotism and heightened sensitivities -- decided Iverson's event was the appropriate venue at which to express his disdain for the anthem. Speaking to a cell phone camera while others around him respectfully stood in recognition, Howard provided an on-camera cameo that went something like this: "'The Star-Spangled Banner' is going on. I don't celebrate this [expletive]. I'm black …"



This is the same Josh Howard who, upon entering the NBA draft, caused trepidation and damaged his draft status once word got out that he'd had issues with marijuana during his days as a Demon Deacon.



This is the Josh Howard who validated those concerns last spring when he inexplicably turned into the NBA's version of Honest Abe and admitted to the Dallas Morning News that he was quite fond of smoking dope. The guy who stupidly implicated his NBA colleagues by saying most of them actually do, too.



Now Howard has the audacity to publicly challenge America's affinity to its own anthem, clearly oblivious to all the eyes that will be on him the 82 times each season he'll be expected to stand up for it. That's not to mention the awkwardness his ignorance places upon players, the league, and, in particular, loquacious Mavs owner Mark Cuban once the 2008 NBA season arrives.



"I have no comment," Cuban said Thursday via e-mail, moonwalking away in classic Michael Jackson fashion.



"All I can tell you about is the Josh Howard I've come to know," said new Mavs coach Rick Carlisle, speaking as he prepared to depart on a flight from Winston-Salem, N.C. after just spending the past few days with Howard. "Josh has been working extremely hard on his game. He's getting better every single day. He may not be our very best player, but he's certainly our most important player. I can speak about him in that regard and can tell you, from what I know, he's about doing whatever he can to help this franchise."



If only Howard took that the same approach toward representation of the African-American community!



Whether or not Howard is sensitive to whatever plights exist regarding African-Americans is not for me or anyone else to say definitively, because none of us are flies on his wall. In Howard's world, he may think he's being sensitive to black people and what plagues this community, and that may have been what he was aiming for in spewing his rhetoric.



But what Howard doesn't seem to get -- and he's joined in this by some members of the hip-hop and entertainment community, or anyone black willing to disseminate and perpetuate perspectives devoid of facts -- is the damage their moments of exasperating expression ultimately costs the very people they believe they're looking out for.



It has to stop now.



Howard is not a spokesperson for the Democratic presidential candidate, despite offering some unclear message about "Obama" to that little cell phone camera.



He's not former NBA player Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, who in 1996 refused to stand for the national anthem, citing religious reasons.




Instead, he's simply an athlete so busy spreading his rhetoric, he hasn't taken into account the collateral damage it could potentially cause.



Fresh off the heels of a fantastic summer in Beijing, where the NBA clearly established itself as the architect of globalization in sports, we now return to the American sports world, where juvenile behavior reigns. Where an individual such as Howard can expect to earn $21.8 million over the next two years despite having essentially admitted to violating league rules by smoking weed in his off time. Where a league and its fans sit in utter disgust at Howard's apparent lack of appreciation.



I seriously doubt that Howard will see himself in that light.



Once upon a time, Howard was considered quiet and timid. It was only after the checks got cashed and his future was secured did Howard reportedly once reveal: "I think like a Democrat but because of my tax bracket, I'm a Republican."



One could easily ask just how such a statement benefits anyone other than himself. Then again, that would be an exercise in futility. After all, to ask would be to presume Howard cares.




Since he opened his mouth, we know better.


Stephen A. Smith is a columnist for ESPN.com and ESPN The Magazine.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...jhoward-080918

[RonMexico]

That might have been the best thing Stephen A has ever written. As long as I use my own voice while reading it instead of thinking of Stephen A eating Cheese Doodles and yelling at me...

[RonMexico]

Maybe the best move by Cuban, ever. Josh stupidly said something without thinking about the potential consequences, and so did the emailers that got their IPs and addresses published. A rare thumbs up moment for Cubes from me.

OV, on a different subject Baylor looked good last night. Based upon the Ags' loss to Arkansas State and overall questions regarding their ability, I will remove the automatic W from the Baylor matchup and move it to a "?"

[21_Blessings]

Props to Cuban even though he pussed out and took the emails down. Some of those were hilariously pathetic.

That might have been the best thing Stephen A has ever written. ...

Nah, Stephen A ripping into Brett Farve was the best thing he has ever done and will ever do.

[dirk4mvp]

Howard is a piece of and deserves every e-mail he got. No big deal. Billionaires apparently are prone to knee-jerk reactions too. It is Cuban's blog, who cares what he puts in there. No one's obligated to read it. Next.

How many situations are there when someone deserves to be called a coon ass ni----?