HAHAHHAHAHA. He thinks Kidd and Dirk read this.
This from a guy who said Brandon Bass blocked the Kidd trade. Did you get your balls back? I thought I was on ignore?
HAHAHHAHAHA. He thinks Kidd and Dirk read this.
Dirk is the best Dallas Mav since Cedric Ceballos. Give him props.
"I think the worst thing that athletes can do is play too long and at the end, look slow and don't look right and they lose some of their reputation."
No Worries Dirk. Your Rep as a massive Choker is already set in Stone![]()
He's also better than any current player on the rocket's roster too.
stfu. he's not better than yao or even tmac if he's healthy.\\\
Ummm...you may be the only person still left that thinks that. Others have identified that he's not. Join the crowd.
What others are those exactly?? Mav Fans that smoke an unhealthy amount of Weed
NBA finals, 2006
Warriors First Round playoffs
MASSIVE
If he wins a le, he is clear of that rep, until then well you know...
You would be an expert on choking, being a yankee fan and all.
Most successful franchise in all of pro sports
Yeah great example there genius
Guess we have to wait till next year to go for number 27 and you'll have to wait till Dirk Retires to get Number 1.![]()
how's that been workin for you lately?
How's Dirk been working for ya his whole career??
compared to what the mavs were like before he got here, pretty damn good actually.
but why not answer the question.
It has been Good since before he got there but no les and his mediocre play especially in the finals and playoffs the year after against GS is the main reason why. Dirk is a very talented player who is not clutch and is a lousy leader. He points a lot of fingers when the team fails. As for the Yankees, your point is a terrible one. They are the most successful franchise of all time, not winning a le since 2000, ending a run whipping off 4 in 5 years means what compared to never winning one period??
a spur fan of all people should not be the one saying this.
Uh Alright
Is there a test one has to pass to make such a claim??
well yeah. you have to be a fan of a team he hasn't face raped to say something stupid like that.
Spurs fans can talk as much to Mavs fans as they damn well please. You are playing in the Duncan Era my friend. 4 les in 9 years and the two shots Dirk had he let Wade rape him like Kobe on a Sat morning in Denver. Then he bent over for the Warriors the following year, looking like he wanted to be anywhere else in the world but on that court in an elimination game against an 8 seed. What did the Spurs do that year??
Oh yeah that's right
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And again... Some people are enjoying their hobby again, named "Bashing Dirk". Thanks Kamnik for your props. Of course, nobody has to be a fan of Dallas and it is okay to dislike a team, but at least you should be fair enough to give the players the respect they deserve. I searched around the net for some articles as well as comments from various fans and maybe some of you could find your opinion in the following...
Dirk was, is and will always be mistreated by the fans and the media. He will never get the same credits like KB, LBJ, Duncan, Garnett or anyone else of the star-players, although he can play on the same level. Read for instance that articles:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...BA-officiating
Citation: "What takes the hit is Dirk's FG%, because he is getting fouled repeatedly and not allowed to play his game. And the impact of this is huge. It allows one player to defend Dirk rather than double or triple teams, which impedes the offense and prevents the other Mavs from scoring.
And the way Kobe is officated does the complete opposite for his teammates. They are getting wide open three pointers constantly and layups because you need multiple defenders to defend Kobe, because unlike with Dirk, one guy isn't allowed to foul Kobe constantly."
Another one:
http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/200...opean-players/
Yes, and Dirk is always called a choker... The 2006 finals were the product of the dreams of Stern and Salvatore who wanted to have Wade as the next superstar. Point. Even T-Mac stated once (don't remember where I read that) that the refereeing in the finals was nothing but a big joke. Of course, it is easy to blame that on one player. Especially if he is not marketingable for the media like Dirk is.
There is another article to be found here. The part concerning the NBA Finals is in the upper third. Some parts out of this one (I put it here because then you don't have to search throughout the whole blog):
http://theabsolutebestblog.blogspot.com/
The Miami Heat have Dwyane Wade, one of the best players in the NBA and People Magazine’s “50 Most Beautiful People.” The Heat have Pat Riley, the championship-winning Head Coach. The Heat have Shaquille O’Neal, and while he definitely won’t be mistaken for De Niro, the Big Malapropism is still the NBA’s Fonz. And yes, the Heat have the bright lights and beautiful people of South Beach.
The Dallas Mavericks best player, Dirk Nowitzki, is a lanky German that resembles Scooby-Doo’s Shaggy. The Mavericks Head Coach, Avery Johnson, sounds like he just inhaled a balloon-full of helium. The Mavericks Owner, Mark Cuban, is an ex-computer geek so uncool he makes Technology Kip look Fonz-like. And once again, Dallas’ backdrop ain’t got jack on Miami’s.
Based on marketability, that’s an easy pick. Right?
That’s just the thing—you don’t pick in sports. Ever hear the expressions “let ‘em play” or “may the best man win?” Sure, they are trite, but they are also true. The reason we fell in love with sports in the first place is because sometimes History writes better storylines than we could ever conceive ourselves. I say let History pick up the quills and do its thing.
Unfortunately, NBA Commissioner David Stern doesn’t agree.
Not only has Stern and his regime favored the Heat during these NBA Finals because of the abovementioned reasons, but also because of his disdain for Cuban. Let’s just say that Cuban and Stern have had some tiffs in the past, usually over the policies of the league and the performance of its officials.
As a result of both the appeal of the Miami Heat and his hatred of Cuban, Stern seems -bent on making O’Neal and Wade Miami’s most popular duo since Vice’s Sonny Crockett and Rico Tubbs.
Since I’ve made the accusations, here is the evidence…
The Odds are Stack-ed Against ‘Em
In Game 4, Mavs G Jerry Stackhouse impeded what would have been an easy Shaq dunk with what used to be a "good, clean, hard foul." In fact, even the refs officiating the game didn’t believe that the foul was excessive. They only issued Stackhouse a Flagrant One foul. I think Wade’s knee-jerk reaction to mediate a potential fight made the foul look more severe than it actually was.
Stackhouse is a well-respected player that has been accused of being “soft,” but never, ever of being a bully. He simply wanted to keep Shaq, a horrendous free-throw shooter, from getting two easy points. That is no easy task. Stackhouse had no idea how hard he would have to contact Shaq in order to prevent an easy flush, so he went for the ball hard, getting a lot of body in the process. And when a 340 lb man hits the ground after running at full speed, it will always look bad.
Stackhouse’s one-game suspension is a joke. Sacramento Kings F Ron Artest, the NBA’s version of Mike Tyson, received a one-gamer for maliciously going after Manu Ginobli in a blowout. Heat F Udonis Haslem received a one-gamer for chucking his mouthpiece at a ref. Mavs G Jason Terry and Nuggets F Reggie Evans both received one-gamers for trying to rearrange their opponents man-atomy.
And Stack gets a one-game vacation for what used to be a “good, clean, hard foul?” This is simple—Stern saw his chance to aid the Heat in this series and pounced. Call me clinically insane, but I really believe that Stackhouse, possibly the NBA’s best sub, would have made a difference in the Mavs’ Game 5 101-100 OT loss to the Heat.
Dwyane’s World
Game 5 free-throw attempts: Dwayne Wade 25, Dallas Mavericks 24.
Now I understand team’s getting a call here and there at home, but this is getting re-freakin’-diculous. Wade is a damn good player, arguably as good as any in the league today. But all of a sudden the third-year marvel is getting treatment that I’m not even sure M.J. used to get back in the day. The most free throws that his Airness ever attempted during his prolific 15-year career was 27. The numbers just don’t add up.
To make matters worse, the refs handed Wade the game-winning points on a silver platter. First, it looked like there was a backcourt violation when he caught the inbounds pass with 9.1 seconds left in overtime. Second, even though he drew a foul on his drive to the hoop with 1.9 seconds remaining, it appeared that he was the one who was out of control. Wade even knocked Jason Terry down to the floor.
Nonetheless, despite both the apparent backcourt violation and the phantom foul, Wade was awarded two free throws. He calmly stepped up and knocked down both shots, giving the Heat the 101-100 victory.
Out Of Time?
The NBA and Game 5 refs Joey Crawford and Joe DeRosa stand by the claim that Mavs F Josh Howard boneheadedly burned the Mavs final timeout in-between Wade’s decisive free throws. Crawford says that Howard was looking right at DeRosa when he signaled “timeout.”
That is complete B.S.
Howard has vehemently denied this claim, saying that he “was looking straight at Coach" when he made the signal. I watched the entire game. It was obvious to me that Howard was communicating with Johnson over when to call the Mavs’ final timeout. I understand that Howard has to be more alert during late-game situations, but the refs also have to allow players to communicate with their coaches.
The refs jumped all over the Mavs communication breakdown. Although they won’t admit it, it was a subtle way to ensure Stern’s Game 5 objective—another Heat victory.
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Yes, he had some downs in these games, but the major reason for the final result was biased officiating. How many people hacked Kobe after the loss the the celtics in June? Not as many as in Dirk's case. The Celtics were so strong etc... were the major reasons at this time. Kobe did not perform well, but there was not any bashing in the dimensions Dirk experienced two years ago. In 2007 he did not play well, that is right. No doubt about that. But every player can have a weak series (and in 2006 Dirk played very well until the finals and also in the first two games).
Dirk is not given the respect that most other stars would get with the same performance. But why? As written in that third article, he is a lanky, white, tall European-guy who is shooting the three and using the jumpshot. You have an owner that speaks his mind, and you have a nontraditional foreigner as your best player. Dirk ain't a screamer. Dirk ain't "tough." He has no street cred. He isn't a thug. He goes about his business the best he can. Dirk is "soft" and a "jump shooting big man". Dirk would never say that he's the best player in the world -> http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-blog/wh...t-ar48724.html
Dirk doesn't get arrested and hasn't been accused of anything besides being in the gym too much. Dirk isn't going to give many hot-sports-opinions about other players or get in many fights. Who is his main rival? Who truly despises Dirk. Simply: That isn't sexy for the media and thus they don't favour him and many fans have a bad impression of him.
One of the biggest problems for Dirk is he has the best of both worlds in terms of his game, size and skills, but that in turn gets him the worst of both worlds in terms of officiating. Perimeter players get a lot of touch foul calls. Post players have to be hammered to get a call. The undeserved problem with Dirk is he is physically a post player but he has a perimeter game. A touch foul makes a bigger difference when you are trying to score from 15 feet away. Getting hammered 2 feet away from the basket has less of an effect on a player. To say it plain and simple, Dirk is ahead of his time.
And about a championship: There are players like Dirk, Malone, Barkley, Stockton, Ewing, Reggie etc... Those guys are/were good enough to win a ring, but they are/were victims of bad timing or bad overall teams.
Sorry for the very long post. Maybe some will write things like "whiner", "choker" "you are as gay as Nowitzki" after reading that post, but for me that only shows that those people cannot or do not want to argue. The influence of the media has already reached them...To the others: If you would like to discuss, I'm in.
Last edited by Sportstudi; 09-27-2008 at 02:02 PM.
lol @ rocketfans talkin smack to mavfans...first round virgins and choke artists
very good post man.
unfortunately, its really wasting your time with narrow minded fools like dbrieden and such. there are some posters here who are simply ignorant and have no good backing to what they say. some just hate for the sake of hating. but there are plenty of good non-mavs fans (many that even hate the mavs) here who respect the out of Dirk and know he is not soft or whatever. oh well. doesnt matter though. there will always be haters of everyone. can you believe there are idiots out there who STILL think Kobe is greater than Jordan? shows how twisted some peoples viewpoints can be...
Wait. So your saying that Dirk didn't lose to a vastly inferior team in the finals and then play like trash and lose to an 8 seed the following season??
Huh my memory must be fading.
Thank you.
Well, sometimes it really seems that some people are very narrow minded. I do not have a problem to give for instance Duncan the respect he deserves. And he deserves a lot. He is definitely one of the best power forwards ever. I am not a Spurs fan, but I do not have a problem to write that.
And about Dirk and clutchness... There were some statistics made by the NBA after the season concerning various rankings based on the season. If I remember correctly in terms of clutch shots he was third behind Kobe and LBJ... And also well placed in other statistics. I do not find them right now, maybe they are not on the net anymore.
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