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    The question wasn't how true it was. The question was where "the stupid stat" came from. Well, it came from Wilt himself. Sure, it's possible it's not true. But, people didn't just make up the "stupid stat."

    I see what you're saying. I thought you were using it to add fuel to the fire that Wilt is the direct descendant of a greek god. If he did have a 50" vertical to go along with his strength and speed, it would be no contest that he was the greatest nba athlete ever. But he doesn't.

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    I'm not saying he for sure had a 50 inch vertical, but it was probably close. Jordan had (I believe) a 48 inch vertical. The world record is over 60 inches. And, Wilt was a world class high jumper. It's not outside the realm of possibility. He could be exaggerating. But, ok. If his vertical was 48 inches? Or even 45 inches? That's still ridiculous considering his height and weight.

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    people over exaggerate verticals all the time. the world record isnt 60 i dont believe that without proof. not a true standing vertical anyway. wilt probably had about a 35 which is absolutely outstanding for a 7 footer.

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    Vertical jumps aren't "standing" verticals. When it's talking about a standing vertical, they specify "standing" vertical. When you hear someone talk about a "vertical jump," it's a max vertical jump with a steps or even a running start.

    As for the 60 inch vertical, it's some guy named Kadour Ziani, who's something like 5'10" but is stupid with his hops. You can probably google or youtube him.

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    oh well in that case my vertical is about 40 no joke. /patsback

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    And, if your vertical is 40, Wilt's was 50.

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    who says i dont jump higher for my size than wilt?

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    Vince Carter's vertical is about 84. He jumped over a 7 footer.

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    If VC's feet are at the same level as his crotch meaning he has no legs, sure.

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    If VC's feet are at the same level as his crotch meaning he has no legs, sure.

    that's how badass he is.

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    Bo Jackson had better nutrition than Jim Brown. Give Brown modern conditioning and scientific training methods and Brown blows Bo out of the water Brown was more nimble than Bo, too.



    please just die already.

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    I have seen LeBron and what he can do. I was at the finals in 07. LeBron is a great athlete, but Wilt was just a beast. I know LeBron can get his hea even with the rim, I know he is strong, but he still can't jump higher than Wilt, he still couldn't beat Wilt in a match of strengh, and LeBron my no means could have beaten Wilt in sprints or distance running.

    I know about leBron, and I know about Wilt. You seem to only know about LeBron and make it out to look like he is a god or something. Anyways it is clear you know nothing about Wilt, you never even searched for stats on him so you could see how wrong you were.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlVbO...eature=related

    That video says just how amazing Wilt was. For those of you who do not know who Gus Johnson was, he was a mean strong player who was consitered one of the more athletic and stonger players in the league.
    Shawn Bradley > Wilt

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    Shawn Bradley > Wilt
    Wilt > Bradley

    And that's without modern nutrition!

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    Thank you for making everything you say from here on out meaningless.
    ING FAIL

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    I've disagreed with stretch pretty much this entire thread, but if you think he was serious when he said Bradley > Wilt, you're a ing re . Know when isn't a serious argument.

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    I've disagreed with stretch pretty much this entire thread, but if you think he was serious when he said Bradley > Wilt, you're a ing re . Know when isn't a serious argument.
    hi lebron hater/wilt gobbler

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    As for the 60 inch vertical, it's some guy named Kadour Ziani, who's something like 5'10" but is stupid with his hops. You can probably google or youtube him.
    googled and agree...that dood has mad hops

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    hi lebron hater/wilt gobbler

    It never gets old for you being a huh?

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    i like chicken

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    If Lebron is a better athlete than Magic, how come Lebron can't play point guard? Lebron isn't even a shooting guard.

    Why has Lebron not lead the NBA in steals?

    MAGIC

    Steals Per Game

    1979-80 NBA 2.4 (5)
    1980-81 NBA 3.4 (1)
    1981-82 NBA 2.7 (1)
    1982-83 NBA 2.2 (8)
    1983-84 NBA 2.2 (5)
    Career NBA 1.9 (14)
    Career 1.9 (16)

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...johnsma02.html

    LEBRON

    Steals Per Game

    2004-05 NBA 2.2 (3)
    2007-08 NBA 1.8 (10)

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...jamesle01.html

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    If Lebron is a better athlete than Magic, how come Lebron can't play point guard? Lebron isn't even a shooting guard.

    Why has Lebron not lead the NBA in steals?

    MAGIC

    Steals Per Game

    1979-80 NBA 2.4 (5)
    1980-81 NBA 3.4 (1)
    1981-82 NBA 2.7 (1)
    1982-83 NBA 2.2 (8)
    1983-84 NBA 2.2 (5)
    Career NBA 1.9 (14)
    Career 1.9 (16)

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...johnsma02.html

    LEBRON

    Steals Per Game

    2004-05 NBA 2.2 (3)
    2007-08 NBA 1.8 (10)

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...jamesle01.html
    Because being a point guard and leading the league in steals doesn't have a direct correlation with athleticism.

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    Because being a point guard and leading the league in steals doesn't have a direct correlation with athleticism.
    Magic was the only 6' 9" player to be athletic enough to average 3.4 steals per game in a season. Magic is the only 6' 9" player ever to be athletic enough to play point guard.

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    Although today's players are larger and may train harder, there came a time in baseball that stats began to even out. Errors and batting percentage have reached a point that suggests no further progress is even possible. I wonder if we have reached that point in the modern NBA, where it is not simply practically possible to score more than 35 ppg for a season.

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    Magic was the only 6' 9" player to be athletic enough to average 3.4 steals per game in a season. Magic is the only 6' 9" player ever to be athletic enough to play point guard.
    I would say Magic was the only 6'9" player smart enough to average 3.4 steals per game in a season. magic is the only 6'9" player ever smart enough to play point guard.

    He definitely was athletic compared to normal people, but compared to other NBA players, he was not particularly quick for a guy who is 6'9", even in his era, he was definitely not particularly strong, he couldn't really jump, but he was coordinated and smart.

    Vince Carter was athletic, you don't seem him leading the league in steals either, neither did Charles Barkley, Wilt Chamberlain, David Robinson, or Hakeem Olajuwon. Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bryant, these are all great athletes, but they don't lead the league in steals. However, we have the John Stocktons and Jason Kidds who do. While they are great athletes, again, compared to us, they are average, or even below average athletes when compared to NBA players.

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    I would say Magic was the only 6'9" player smart enough to average 3.4 steals per game in a season. magic is the only 6'9" player ever smart enough to play point guard.

    He definitely was athletic compared to normal people, but compared to other NBA players, he was not particularly quick for a guy who is 6'9", even in his era, he was definitely not particularly strong, he couldn't really jump, but he was coordinated and smart.

    Vince Carter was athletic, you don't seem him leading the league in steals either, neither did Charles Barkley, Wilt Chamberlain, David Robinson, or Hakeem Olajuwon. Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bryant, these are all great athletes, but they don't lead the league in steals. However, we have the John Stocktons and Jason Kidds who do. While they are great athletes, again, compared to us, they are average, or even below average athletes when compared to NBA players.
    Yearly Leaders and Records for Steals Per Game
    Leaders and Records: Season / Career / Active / Yearly

    Click on the Player for career statistics and accomplishments.
    Active players are listed in bold.
    Members of the Hall of Fame are marked with an asterisk (*).

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    Season Lg Player SPG
    2007-08 NBA Chris Paul 2.71
    2006-07 NBA Baron Davis 2.14
    2005-06 NBA Gerald Wallace 2.51
    2004-05 NBA Larry Hughes 2.89
    2003-04 NBA Baron Davis 2.36
    2002-03 NBA Allen Iverson 2.74
    2001-02 NBA Allen Iverson 2.80
    2000-01 NBA Allen Iverson 2.51
    1999-00 NBA Eddie Jones 2.67
    1998-99 NBA Kendall Gill 2.68
    1997-98 NBA Mookie Blaylock 2.61
    1996-97 NBA Mookie Blaylock 2.72
    1995-96 NBA Gary Payton 2.85
    1994-95 NBA Scottie Pippen 2.94
    1993-94 NBA Nate McMillan 2.96
    1992-93 NBA Michael Jordan 2.83
    1991-92 NBA John Stockton 2.98
    1990-91 NBA Alvin Robertson 3.04
    1989-90 NBA Michael Jordan 2.77
    1988-89 NBA John Stockton 3.21
    1987-88 NBA Michael Jordan 3.16
    1986-87 NBA Alvin Robertson 3.21
    1985-86 NBA Alvin Robertson 3.67
    1984-85 NBA Micheal Ray Richardson 2.96
    1983-84 NBA Rickey Green 2.65
    1982-83 NBA Micheal Ray Richardson 2.84
    1981-82 NBA Magic Johnson* 2.67
    1980-81 NBA Magic Johnson* 3.43
    1979-80 NBA Micheal Ray Richardson 3.23
    1978-79 NBA M.L. Carr 2.46
    1977-78 NBA Ron Lee 2.74
    1976-77 NBA Don Buse 3.47
    1975-76 NBA Slick Watts 3.18
    ABA Don Buse 4.12
    1974-75 NBA Rick Barry* 2.85
    ABA Brian Taylor 2.80
    1973-74 NBA Larry Steele 2.68
    ABA Ted McClain 2.98

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._g_yearly.html

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