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  1. #151
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    so then what gives "rox" fans the right to constantly call someone a playoff choker?
    The same right you seem to feel you have after the last three years of Mavs failure.

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    BTW DIRK4MVP.

    Going back to the original topic of the thread...i will or spit on you face during a game and watch you take it like your hero dirk. That is what you have been implying this entire time.

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    BTW DIRK4MVP.

    Going back to the original topic of the thread...i will or spit on you face during a game and watch you take it like your hero dirk. That is what you have been implying this entire time.

    I guess you forgot, the original topic was about a preseason game

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    Can't hate a guy for having dreams



    a noob that guarantees a 2k9 league championship
    Lol, we'll see. We need like 5 more spots, right?

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    I guess you forgot, the original topic was about a preseason game
    that was 4 posts in till the everyone started arguing whether or not it was right for tmac to just stand there.

    So you think it is ok for me to spit on your face? Don't you think im going to be fouling you a lot more after you become my ?

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    that was 4 posts in till the everyone started arguing whether or not it was right for tmac to just stand there.

    So you think it is ok for me to spit on your face? Don't you think im going to be fouling you a lot more after you become my ?

    Obstructed_View basically answered the same question earlier in the thread.

    If I were playing ball and someone did that I'd probably lay their ass out, but I'm a nobody and I don't get paid a cent to play basketball. On a street court, I could do that, step over the guy and wouldn't even have to stop playing. If I were making a zillion dollars, just coming back from an injury and playing a team full of dip s like the Celtics in a ing meaningless exhibiltion game I'd be smart enough to laugh when a scrub got that into it and tried to lure me into doing something dumb.

    I know he's your guy and you have to defend him, but seriously, TMac lowers himself by giving someone like that the time of day.

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    Lol, we'll see. We need like 5 more spots, right?

    yeah, last i checked.

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    You honestly think T-Mac actually getting upset will prevent Eddie House from doing that again if he really wanted to? You'd be wrong.

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    You honestly think T-Mac actually getting upset will prevent Eddie House from doing that again if he really wanted to? You'd be wrong.
    Jamstone, not many people here disagree with you. The way I initially interpreted your message was that retaliating at all was wrong. Yes, fighting back in Tracy's situation would be wrong.

    I do not think that just "dropping 40" or so on him would be necessarily the only way to "get him back" though. I would fully expect T-Mac to confront him every time with at least an intense presence like he did. You do not know that he was actually going to hit House. Yes, he ed a fist and all, but I have seem many, many people do that without the intention of actually hitting someone. You just want to see them flinch. Can you tell me with complete certainty that there is no way T-Mac wasn't just doing that?

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    Pretty soon yall are gonna wish the team you root for doesn't make the postseason in fear of getting ed no vaseline by the Blazers

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    Jamstone, not many people here disagree with you. The way I initially interpreted your message was that retaliating at all was wrong. Yes, fighting back in Tracy's situation would be wrong.

    I do not think that just "dropping 40" or so on him would be necessarily the only way to "get him back" though. I would fully expect T-Mac to confront him every time with at least an intense presence like he did. You do not know that he was actually going to hit House. Yes, he ed a fist and all, but I have seem many, many people do that without the intention of actually hitting someone. You just want to see them flinch. Can you tell me with complete certainty that there is no way T-Mac wasn't just doing that?
    No, I can't. The same way you can't say with certainty he wouldn't have fought if Paul Pierce didn't hold him back. But, my opinion is that he wanted to hit him. And, that's why I said the things I said, as it relates to T-Mac trying to fight. If he didn't want to fight, I wouldn't have been as adamant about him acting stupid. I still don't think you should let Eddie House rattle you no matter what he does.

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    Jamstone is OBVIOUSLY not a fan/watcher of old school nba........none of the other players back then/even majority of today's players would've taken that bullshyt, it's a absolute joke what he's saying.

    Nobody and I repeat........nobody let's some punk jab at their face and just stand there...(again doesn't mean you have to throw blows, but to just walk away is even worse). That is just declaring to the world how big of a pussy you are. It just doesn't happen...nobody allows that kinda disrespect. Sorry Jamstone, but I grew up watching the NBA and that crap just doesn't happen......and it shouldn't happen. The NBA (while people forget) is a full contact sport just like the NFL, with it's own unwritten rules and consequences......and you don't let people punk you whether it be.....preseason, regular season, or playoffs.

    Jamstone must be a newbe NBA fan or something....it's the only way he can justify "walking away".......either that or he was raised be hippies that gave him the same advice. What's your real name.......sunshine?

    Never thought I'd be saying this.......but y'all should listen to what the LA fan has said above, because he knows exactly what the he's talking about.
    Last edited by Tmac&Luther; 10-14-2008 at 02:47 AM.

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    I have followed the NBA since around 1984. It's not the 1980s anymore when players got into fights all the time and sometimes didn't even get ejected from games for fighting. This isn't a time where franchise players make $1 million a year anymore. has changed. And, only a naive fan like yourself wouldn't understand that the dynamics of the game have changed where you can't do stupid like this anymore. It's a game where a player could very easily get suspended 10-15 games if a fight escalated seriously enough, and in the West those 10-15 games could be the difference between a top 4 seed and just missing the playoffs. , didn't Carmelo get 15 games for -slapping Mardy Collins and running away?

    The NBA is a business. It's not about proving you're tough or getting respect from scrub players on the opposing team. It's about leading your team to wins and championships and not jeopardizing your health or your season by doing stupid when you're a franchise superstar.

    It's ing ridiculous that you don't understand this.

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    LeBron punched in the face by Darius Songaila. LeBron a pussy for not trying to fight Songaila?



    Jerry Stackhouse lands on Manu Ginobili and shoves Manu's head down. Manu a pussy for not retaliating?

    It's a different league than 20 years ago. You have to be re ed to not understand the dynamics of the game as it relates to fighting and suspensions, especially when you're important to your team. No one is going to call LeBron or Manu pussies. They're two of the tougher players in the league. But, they're smart enough, even in the heat of the ball game when there's tension and high emotion, that their teams can't afford to lose them over stupid . And, those were real games, not the ing pre-season.

    A pussy is a player who acts tough when he really isn't. T-Mac isn't a tough guy. Why the does he have to act like he is?



    Raja Bell ing clotheslined Kobe. You know what Kobe did? He walked away, brushed off his shoulder, and wagged his finger towards the crowd. Kobe knows the best way to get back at like that is to win the game.

    You have this game confused with streetball. You don't let people punk you when you're playing a pick-up game at a local gym. This is the NBA. And, it's not a full contact sport like football or hockey. To compare NBA basketball to those is foolish. This is NBA basketball, where fights are met with multiple game suspensions. When you're a franchise star, you learn to control your emotion, period. This isn't the era of Charles Barkley and Bill Laimbeer exchanging blows and all they get is an ejection and slap on the wrist.

    You got twisted.

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    Raja Bell ing clotheslined Kobe. You know what Kobe did? He walked away, brushed off his shoulder, and wagged his finger towards the crowd. Kobe knows the best way to get back at like that is to win the game.

    Where's Obstructed_View at saying the only Dirk could've gotten back at West was to win the series. Lakers lost that series. Kobe = huge


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    And they were stupid when they tried to retaliate.

    LeBron was stupid to try to fight Haywood and walking towards DeShawn Stevenson. He handled it better with Songaila. LeBron also knew he would have been ejected and possibly suspended if he really got into a fight.

    And, Kobe did not back his arm. He got into his Vince Carter's face. But, he was still stupid for him to get into it. Also, Vince Carter is no Eddie House.

    And, why even bring up what LeBron did with his mom? He wanted her to stay in her seat. He didn't show any aggression towards Paul Pierce, who was the one who fouled him hard.

    Moreover, here's the main distinction with all of those examples that I didn't really spell out before but is absolutely important. Those confrontations happened during the ball game, when the plays were still going on. When T-Mac moved towards Eddie House to fight, the play had been stopped for a while already. It was just stupid talking. Eddie House didn't flagrant foul him, didn't undercut him, didn't punch or shove him. He put his hand on his face. Smack it out the way, say you, and walk away. Eddie House doesn't deserve the time of day if you're T-Mac. Eddie House is a ing scrub. Darius Songaila is a ing scrub that doesn't deserve a double-take glance from LeBron.

    Now, getting fouled on the head with a swinging arm or being put to the ground by a 7-foot 275 pound guy. That's getting put in a physical harm situation. Was Eddie House's finger tap going to make T-Mac's head explode or something? Those examples you give for LeBron are when he's physically being challenged. They weren't about being disrespected.

    Eddie ing House. All 6'1" and 190 lbs of him and a finger tap to the face in a pre-season game. Ok.

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    And they were stupid when they tried to retaliate.

    LeBron was stupid to try to fight Haywood and walking towards DeShawn Stevenson. He handled it better with Songaila. LeBron also knew he would have been ejected and possibly suspended if he really got into a fight.

    And, Kobe did not back his arm. He got into his Vince Carter's face. But, he was still stupid for him to get into it. Also, Vince Carter is no Eddie House.

    And, why even bring up what LeBron did with his mom? He wanted her to stay in her seat. He didn't show any aggression towards Paul Pierce, who was the one who fouled him hard.

    Moreover, here's the main distinction with all of those examples that I didn't really spell out before but is absolutely important. Those confrontations happened during the ball game, when the plays were still going on. When T-Mac moved towards Eddie House to fight, the play had been stopped for a while already. It was just stupid talking. Eddie House didn't flagrant foul him, didn't undercut him, didn't punch or shove him. He put his hand on his face. Smack it out the way, say you, and walk away. Eddie House doesn't deserve the time of day if you're T-Mac. Eddie House is a ing scrub. Darius Songaila is a ing scrub that doesn't deserve a double-take glance from LeBron.

    Now, getting fouled on the head with a swinging arm or being put to the ground by a 7-foot 275 pound guy. That's getting put in a physical harm situation. Was Eddie House's finger tap going to make T-Mac's head explode or something? Those examples you give for LeBron are when he's physically being challenged. They weren't about being disrespected.

    Eddie ing House. All 6'1" and 190 lbs of him and a finger tap to the face in a pre-season game. Ok.
    One thing is sure. You and whoever you argue with about what T-mac should have done are not going to agree.

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    I have followed the NBA since around 1984. It's not the 1980s anymore when players got into fights all the time and sometimes didn't even get ejected from games for fighting. This isn't a time where franchise players make $1 million a year anymore. has changed. And, only a naive fan like yourself wouldn't understand that the dynamics of the game have changed where you can't do stupid like this anymore. It's a game where a player could very easily get suspended 10-15 games if a fight escalated seriously enough, and in the West those 10-15 games could be the difference between a top 4 seed and just missing the playoffs. , didn't Carmelo get 15 games for -slapping Mardy Collins and running away?

    The NBA is a business. It's not about proving you're tough or getting respect from scrub players on the opposing team. It's about leading your team to wins and championships and not jeopardizing your health or your season by doing stupid when you're a franchise superstar.

    It's ing ridiculous that you don't understand this.
    Again for the illiterate that can't freaking read............NOBODY IS SAYING TMAC NEEDS TO GET IN A DAMN FIST FIGHT.

    We're just saying he shouldn't allow some guy to touch his face or jam his finger into his head, I really don't understand why the you don't understand this.....90% of the NBA players would've done what Tmac did.

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    So Dirk is a pussy because his TEAM didnt win, but he is a stand up guy for letting another player bully him. You and I are on the opposite end of the pole on this one, but if that works on you then I guess that fine.
    Dirk got outscored by David West the last two games of that series. That should not happen. I've got a lot less respect for Dirk because he didn't step up and lead his team than I do because he let some dip touch his face.

    Hey Im just curious, I want to know your viewpoint on this real incident that happened to me. I was in a mall parking lot that was extremely crowded, and I saw this lady walking, so I proceeded to follow her to her car. And as Im waiting for her to pull out, some grown ass thug pulled into the spot as she pulled out. He was able to do so because as she pulled out she was blocking me from pulling in, thus allowing him to pull in. Immediately I start honking my horn and cursing. His reply was "muthafucca, I dont have time to be waiting"... I looked at my 8 year old nephew and said wait right here.

    Before I tell you what I did... I want to know what you would have done.
    I park way out and walk.

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    Where's Obstructed_View at saying the only Dirk could've gotten back at West was to win the series. Lakers lost that series. Kobe = huge

    Isn't that the series where Kobe failed to score in the second half of the elimination game? Yeah, that's enough talk about what a stone cold asassin Kobe is.

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    If McGrady had punched Eddie House, wouldn't Eddie have to come back later and retaliate so people wouldn't think he's a ? Maybe he could drive past McGrady's house and shoot at it. That's the only way he can prove he's a man, right?

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    Isn't that the series where Kobe failed to score in the second half of the elimination game? Yeah, that's enough talk about what a stone cold asassin Kobe is.
    alright, well as long as you hold fair judgment to all players

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    Ginobili has had more done to him than any two people in this thread, and he's never retaliated physically. I don't hear anyone saying that Manu's a pussy.

    Jordan had more done to him than any three people in this thread, and the closest I ever saw him come to hitting anyone was Ferry, who was in the game as a goon to try to get him to lose his temper. I don't hear anyone saying that Jordan's a pussy.

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    If McGrady had punched Eddie House, wouldn't Eddie have to come back later and retaliate so people wouldn't think he's a ? Maybe he could drive past McGrady's house and shoot at it. That's the only way he can prove he's a man, right?
    Way to jump off the cliff pal.........hope you take Jamstone with you.

    Seriously your post was completely re ed and made no sense what so ever. What if your aunt had balls.... too many ifs and nobody is going to shoot anybody or get into a fight.

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    alright, well as long as you hold fair judgment to all players
    Yeah, let the Kobe slobbers try to re-write history.

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