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You apparently were not watching.
great insight.
You apparently were not watching.
I concur. That was a powerful story that needs to be told.
I didn't catch it, did he come up with anything other than the usual criticisms from the Democratic Party, or was it just the usual anti-Republican talking points.
And is this the same Colin Powell that tried to convince the rest of the World that we needed to invade Iraq because they had Weapons of Mass Destruction?
Of course it is the same Powell, and since Bush is a no-good for falling for it, Powell is also a no-good, yes?
Don't confuse them with facts Joch!
Well, basically he said that the Republican Party is narrowing and courting the more extreme member of the party. He also said that during the last 5 weeks, McCain has been haphazard, while Obama seemed to have a grasp of the problems and a steady approach in addressing them.
No doubt. While I think this is a great endorsement and have much respect for Gen. Powell, there are those in this party (you've seen them on this board) that no longer have any respect Powell and could care less about his opinions.And is this the same Colin Powell that tried to convince the rest of the World that we needed to invade Iraq because they had Weapons of Mass Destruction?
Of course it is the same Powell, and since Bush is a no-good for falling for it, Powell is also a no-good, yes?
I disagree with that view.
"no longer have any respect Powell"
Rather than resign to maintain his respect and honor, he went to the UN and ing lied the US into Iraq. He'll NEVER live down that moment of ignominy and infamy.
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I'd say Colin Powell's level of respect is much higher than that of Bush around the Country and the World. And yes, that is the same Colin Powell and if he'd chosen to support McCain you'd all be happy.
And the fact is that Powell chose to support Obama.Don't confuse them with facts Joch!
Many of the posters here trash Bush mainly for the Iraq Invasion, and it therefore, it would be hypocritical for any of them to praise the Powell endorsement. I don't know if you fit into that category Joe.
And yes, McCain and his supporters would have welcomed with open arms the Powell endorsement.
Thanks for filling me in Peabody, I'll watch the debate on tape later today to get a fuller understanding of his endorsement.
Now the right will find all kinds of stuff wrong with Powell.
Yes, Powell is a for presenting information that he did not believe to the UN. He absolutely should have resigned with the disrespect Bush and Cheney showed. He should have made Cheney give that ing presentation.
I can certainly understand but I, personally, still have much more respect for Colin Powell than I do of President Bush. And I think it would be safe to say that John McCain himself would go to Powell before Bush for foreign policy advice. Then again knowing John's temper that probably wouldn't happen now.
Although I have almost zero respect for Powell at this point (UN, Ted Stevens trial), this will help Obama to no end. What's the saying? Politics makes strange bedfellows. This is probably the stake through McCain's (barely beating) heart.
He also did one really good thing in the endoresement to head off the BRHs and Klandestinos of the world:
Powell said he was cognizant of the racial aspect of his endorsement, but said that was not the dominant factor in his decision. If it was, he said, he would have made the endorsement months ago.
Retired General Colin L. Powell, one of the country's most respected Republicans, stunned both parties on Sunday by strongly endorsing Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) for president on NBC's "Meet the Press" and laying out a blistering, detailed critique of the modern GOP.
Powell said the election of Obama would "electrify the world."
"I think he is a transformational figure," Powell said. "He is a new generation coming ... onto the world stage and on the American stage. And for that reason, I'll be voting for Senator Barack Obama."
As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficult with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."
Powell, once considered likely to be the nation's first African-American presidential nominee, said his decision was not about race.
Moderator Tom Brokaw said: "There will be some ... who will say this is an African-American, distinguished American supporting another African-American because of race."
Powell, who last year gave the Arizona senator's campaign the maximum $2,300, replied: "If I had only had that in mind, I could have done this six, eight, 10 months ago. I really have been going back and forth between somebody I have the highest respect and regard for, John McCain and somebody I was getting to know, Barack Obama. And it was only in the last couple of months that I settled on this."
"I can't deny that it will be a historic event when an African-American becomes president," Powell continued, speaking live in the studio. "And should that happen, all Americans should be proud — not just African-American, but all Americans — that we have reached this point in our national history where such a thing could happen. It would also not only electrify the country, but electrify the world."
Powell, making his 30th appearance on "Meet the Press," said he does not plan to campaign for Obama. He led into his endorsement by saying: "We've got two individuals — either one of them could be a good president. But which is the president that we need now — which is the individual that serves the needs of the nation for the next period of time.
"And I come to the conclusion that because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities — and you have to take that into account — as well as his substance — he has both style and substance, he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president."
Powell said that he is "troubled" by the direction of the Republican Party, and said he began to doubt Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) when he chose Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.
"Not just small towns have values," he said, responding to one of Palin's signature lines.
"She's a very distinguished woman, and she's to be admired," he said. "But at the same, now that we have had a chance to watch her for some seven weeks, I don't believe she's ready to be president of the United States, which is the job of the vice president. And so that raised some question in my mind as to the judgment that Senator McCain made."
The endorsement is likely to help Obama convince skeptical centrists that he is ready to handle the challenges of commander in chief, and undercuts McCain argument that he is better qualified on national-security issues.
McCain, appearing on "Fox News Sunday," sought to minimize the endorsement by noting his support from other former secretaries of state and retired military flag officers.
"It doesn’t come as a surprise," McCain said. "I'm very pleased to have the endorsement of four former secretaries of state, well over 200 retired generals and admirals. I've admired and continue to respect Secretary Powell."
Powell, 71, criticized McCain and his campaign for invoking the former domestic terrorist William Ayers.
"They're trying to connect him to some kind of terrorist feelings, and I think that's inappropriate," Powell said. "Now I understand what politics is all about — I know how you can go after one another. And that's good. But I think this goes too far. And I think it has made the McCain campaign look a little narrow. It's not what the American people are looking for. And I look at these kinds of approaches to the campaign, and they trouble me. And the party has moved even further to the right, and Governor Palin has indicated a further rightward shift."
Powell said he has "heard senior members of my own party drop the suggestion [that Obama's] a Muslim and might be associated with terrorists."
"This is not the way we should be doing it in America. I feel strongly about this particular point," Powell said. "We have got to stop polarizing ourselves in this way. And John McCain is as non-discriminatory as anyone I know. But I'm troubled about the fact that within the party, we have these kinds of expressions."
Powell, a four-star Army general, was national security adviser to President Ronald Reagan; chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the 1991 Persian Gulf war, when George H.W. Bush was president; and was President George W. Bush’s first secretary of State.
Powell has consulted with both Obama and McCain, and the general’s camp had indicated in the past that he would not endorse.
Powell said that as he watched McCain, the Republican “was a little unsure as to how to deal with the economic problems that we were having, and almost every day, there was a different approach to the problem, and that concerned me, sensing that he didn't have a complete grasp of the economic problems that we had."
Powell said a big job of the new president will be “conveying a new image of American leadership, a new image of America’s role in the world.”
“I think what the president has to do is to start using the power of the Oval Office and the power of his personality to convince the American people and to convince the world that America is solid, America is going to move forward … restoring a sense of purpose,” he said.
As a key reason, Powell said: "I would have difficult with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration."
. He's right. What we need is 2 more ACLU goons to really e things up.
McCain's attacks are really having an effect. I don't know whether it's necessarily the effect he had planned, but an effect nonetheless.....
"I think he is a transformational figure," Powell said. "He is a new generation coming ... onto the world stage and on the American stage. And for that reason, I'll be voting for Senator Barack Obama."
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Powell, once considered likely to be the nation's first African-American presidential nominee, said his decision was not about race.
Moderator Tom Brokaw said: "There will be some ... who will say this is an African-American, distinguished American supporting another African-American because of race."
Powell, who last year gave the Arizona senator's campaign the maximum $2,300, replied: "If I had only had that in mind, I could have done this six, eight, 10 months ago. I really have been going back and forth between somebody I have the highest respect and regard for, John McCain and somebody I was getting to know, Barack Obama. And it was only in the last couple of months that I settled on this."
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"And I come to the conclusion that because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities — and you have to take that into account — as well as his substance — he has both style and substance, he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president."
Powell said that he is "troubled" by the direction of the Republican Party, and said he began to doubt Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) when he chose Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate.
"Not just small towns have values," he said, responding to one of Palin's signature lines.
"She's a very distinguished woman, and she's to be admired," he said. "But at the same, now that we have had a chance to watch her for some seven weeks, I don't believe she's ready to be president of the United States, which is the job of the vice president. And so that raised some question in my mind as to the judgment that Senator McCain made."
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Powell, 71, criticized McCain and his campaign for invoking the former domestic terrorist William Ayers.
"They're trying to connect him to some kind of terrorist feelings, and I think that's inappropriate," Powell said. "Now I understand what politics is all about — I know how you can go after one another. And that's good. But I think this goes too far. And I think it has made the McCain campaign look a little narrow. It's not what the American people are looking for. And I look at these kinds of approaches to the campaign, and they trouble me. And the party has moved even further to the right, and Governor Palin has indicated a further rightward shift."
Powell said he has "heard senior members of my own party drop the suggestion [that Obama's] a Muslim and might be associated with terrorists."
"This is not the way we should be doing it in America. I feel strongly about this particular point," Powell said. "We have got to stop polarizing ourselves in this way. And John McCain is as non-discriminatory as anyone I know. But I'm troubled about the fact that within the party, we have these kinds of expressions."
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Powell said that as he watched McCain, the Republican “was a little unsure as to how to deal with the economic problems that we were having, and almost every day, there was a different approach to the problem, and that concerned me, sensing that he didn't have a complete grasp of the economic problems that we had."
Powell said a big job of the new president will be “conveying a new image of American leadership, a new image of America’s role in the world.”
“I think what the president has to do is to start using the power of the Oval Office and the power of his personality to convince the American people and to convince the world that America is solid, America is going to move forward … restoring a sense of purpose,” he said.
Also, the pick of Palin appears to be a drag on the ticket. Every conservative (commentator and media outlet) that criticizes McCain includes the Palin pick as a main point of criticism.
joe the plumber: "he was great, now he sucks."
Where did Powell get the information to use to justify the war? He also said that the war would have never gained his, or the public's, backing had Iraq not had wmds. Or are you telling me that Powell made up what he said at the UN?
I'd still follow Powell into battle any day of the week.
Did Powell acknowledge he's a Muslim BLT?
Here's the pic:
What these idiots don't understand is that Powell's UN speech was the last attempt at finding a diplomatic solution to the Iraq situation, not a pre-announcement of the justifications for war.
Powell holed up for days before the speech and threw out several unsubstantiated claims. His big problem was accepting some of the claims that had made it through several stops on the intel chain where somewhere along the line any doubts about the original source were lost or omitted, e.g, Curveball.
Powell was right about the dangers of invading Iraq, and his department should have been in charge of the reconstruction effort. Too bad his boss was too stupid to realize this.
Powell's Endorsement Is a Huge Slap in the Face for McCain
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-be...tml?view=print
The condemnation of John McCain by John Lewis -- a man McCain called one of the three wise men he would consult as president -- was a huge personal blow to McCain. But Powell's endorsement of Obama is even more of a slap in the face.
Powell is a man that McCain has tremendous respect and admiration for. He once said he respected Powell more than any man in the world.
In the New York Times Magazine this summer McCain said, "Colin Powell, a man who I admire as much as any man in the world, person in the world..."
McCain called Powell one of the most "credible" and "respected men in America.
Politico reported in August that McCain was even considering asking Powell to be his running mate. McCain has repeatedly said in the past that if elected he would have asked Powell to serve in his administration. Powell and McCain know each other well and have worked closely together. His public endorsement of Obama is a huge validation of Obama and a tremendous repudiation of McCain.
McCain said, "Colin Powell, a man who I admire as much as any man in the world, person in the world..." [NY Times interview with John McCain, 7/13/08]
McCain considered Powell for a running mate. "Retired Gen. Colin Powell is among the potential running mates who have been considered by John McCain, campaign advisers told Politico. Powell was among the possible vice presidential choices the Arizona Republican senator was thinking of when he said he would not rule out a supporter of abortion rights, a key adviser said." [Politico, 8/23/08]
McCain said President Bush was "blessed" to have Powell working for him. McCain said, "I think the president is blessed to have two extremely talented people (Powell and Rumsfeld), experienced people, working for him, and others, but particularly those two." [MSNBC Hardball, 4/23/03]
McCain called Powell one of the most "credible" and "respected men in America. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) praised Powell as one of the "most credible" and "most respected" men in America. [LA Times, 2/6/03]
McCain said he admired and respected Powell, said he was one of most "honest" men he had "ever known." "Sen. McCain: Well, Colin Powell's one of the most honest men that I've ever known and I admire and respect him enormously, and so obviously I'd take his word for it." [CNBC 4/20/04]
McCain was "exuberant" over Powell's selection as Secretary of State. After it was announced that Powell had been nominated by Bush for Secretary of State, McCain said, "I'm exuberant over the prospect of his [Colin Powell] stewardship of American foreign policy. There's a lot of very dangerous places in the world due to the fecklessness of the Clinton administration." [NBC Nightly News, 12/15/00]
McCain lauds Powell's selection as Secretary of State. Senator John McCain "I think his credentials and his charisma will have a significant effect, a beneficial effect, on the conduct of American foreign policy." [NBC Nightly News, 12/16/00]
McCain said if elected in 2000 he would have appointed Powell to his cabinet. On Larry King in 2001, McCain was asked whether he would have named Mr. Rumsfeld and Colin L. Powell to a McCain cabinet. 'Oh, yes." [CNN Larry King, 11/28/01]
As leader of the International Republican Ins ute, John McCain gave Colin Powell the Freedom Award. "As Senator John McCain waited to speak at the annual awards dinner of the International Republican Ins ute, a democracy-building group he has led for 15 years," "Mr. McCain could use the chairman's [of the ins ute] perch to score points with important Republican figures -- he presented Freedom Awards to President Bush, former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and, in 2003, the incoming Senate majority leader, Bill Frist." [NY Times, 7/28/08]
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The Repugs can still steal the election with voter purging and intimidation. Eternal vigilance.
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