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    One more time... xtremesteven33's Avatar
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    They should have no problem telling you exactly what is planned for the weekend- especially if you are allowing a 12 year old to go. Any hesitation to be forthright would raise concern for me- no matter the situation.


    ur right. I dont agree with alot of the "Jesus Camps" that go on now days. I do think that SOME of the activities do seem like it is brainwashing but at the same time this is not a reflection on Christianity.

    That movie "Jesus Camp" did potray Christians as the nuttiest people on the face of the earth. HAHA.....it was very wierd what they made them do but i know for sure those kind of camps are very few and far between. But i think you should look into what shes getting into.

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    She's 12, you should be more worried that there's a cute boy she finds at the camp and sneaks off into the bushes with than anything else.

    I say let her go. I went all kinds of catholic retreats in my teen years and for the most part they were fun. There was a good deal of preaching that went on but its not like any of us really cared.

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    She's 12, you should be more worried that there's a cute boy she finds at the camp and sneaks off into the bushes with than anything else.

    I say let her go. I went all kinds of catholic retreats in my teen years and for the most part they were fun. There was a good deal of preaching that went on but its not like any of us really cared.

    i think hes scared like she might come back like a robot.

    but you are absolutely right

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    ur right. I dont agree with alot of the "Jesus Camps" that go on now days. I do think that SOME of the activities do seem like it is brainwashing but at the same time this is not a reflection on Christianity.

    That movie "Jesus Camp" did potray Christians as the nuttiest people on the face of the earth. HAHA.....it was very wierd what they made them do but i know for sure those kind of camps are very few and far between. But i think you should look into what shes getting into.


    Yea obviously the "jesus camp" movie is the extreme, and i doubt there are many like it...the fact that there are ANY like it is in disturbing though. The fact that there are MILLIONS of folks in this country that dont see anything wrong with it is REALLY ing disturbing.

    In conclusion though, i stick with my original sentiment. Unless you can verify it is some whackjob demonination of christianity, let her go and have fun.

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    She's 12, you should be more worried that there's a cute boy she finds at the camp and sneaks off into the bushes with than anything else.
    I strongly suspect this is NOT the way to win over the father of a 12-year-old girl. New talking points, hon.

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    Ok she's going but she has to sit through Jesus Camp and Zeitgeist before she goes.

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    Ok she's going but she has to sit through Jesus Camp and Zeitgeist before she goes.
    Lol...thats not a bad idea...i watched that a while back and its scary stuff.

    If she comes back with a rat tail haircut, then you know something went wrong.

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    Ok she's going but she has to sit through Jesus Camp and Zeitgeist before she goes.


    then wouldnt that be a form of brainwashing also?

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    Generally I wouldn't have a problem with it. Unless you suspect it is cult I wouldn't worry too much about it. My kids have gone with friends to church services and they didn't come back with a brainwashed view at all. If anything they learned a slightly different way of worshiping is all. I'm raising them Catholic but we've also gone to other churches, although Mouse will dispute it since I didn't go to CrazyOne's church, when invited. No harm done.

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    then wouldnt that be a form of brainwashing also?
    I concur

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    then wouldnt that be a form of brainwashing also?
    Two ends of the spectrum ok. You can see one extreme to the other and hopefully come to the conclusion that normality is somewhere inbetween.

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    Ok she's going but she has to sit through Jesus Camp and Zeitgeist before she goes.
    JC, the movie, was awesomeness. When the did everyone get so crazy?

    And why does my lion avy look like MaryAnn? WTF?
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    Two ends of the spectrum ok. You can see one extreme to the other and hopefully come to the conclusion that normality is somewhere inbetween.



    r u serious?

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    I strongly suspect this is NOT the way to win over the father of a 12-year-old girl. New talking points, hon.
    Oh I didn't want to win him over. My only purpose was to make him squirm with the fear that is teenage pregnancy. Its cruel but awfully entertaining.

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    No it was sarcasm. That doesn't mean that there isn't something to gain from either movie about the extremes in beliefs we live in.

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    Oh I didn't want to win him over. My only purpose was to make him squirm with the fear that is teenage pregnancy. Its cruel but awfully entertaining.
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    No it was sarcasm. That doesn't mean that there isn't something to gain from either movie about the extremes in beliefs we live in.


    eh i can see what ur saying but dont you think 12 is way too young for all that information?

    Best thing to do man is just let it be. There is so much info out there, intriguing minds will get it.

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    How does your brother in law act, does he have kids and how do they act?

    I honestly don't think its a brainwashing type function. She'll be fine, as everyone stated, at her age they're thinking of other things than going to if they don't follow a certain path.

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    First off, I am a Christian, if that is important to you.

    I agree with many of the posters who are saying that if this group were the 'fire and brimstone' type, you'd probably already know at this point. Those kinds don't reach out to outsiders as much, anyway.

    Didn't you mention that this is your brother-in-law's church? If so, you should direct some of your questions towards him. I'm sure he will be willing to talk with you. Also, what is your wife's stance?

    I respect the fact that you are allowing your daughter to explore these issues somewhat on her own even if you disagree. Much of your approach displays a lot of wisdom to me. However, I do think your view towards Christians is stereotyped and slightly paranoid. Although there are certainly some 'Christian' groups that are really out there and not even I would allow my kids to go along with, I think you shouldn't be so distrustful if they've done no wrong so far.

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    eh i can see what ur saying but dont you think 12 is way too young for all that information?

    Best thing to do man is just let it be. There is so much info out there, intriguing minds will get it.
    I'm not trying to be offensive but that is one of the most idiotic things ever stated. Its our jobs as parents to teach our youth and educate them on as much as possible about whats really around us.

    To assume that our kids will "seek info" is highly irresponsible especially in this day and age of en led slackers who flood the workforce with ty habits and even less brain work and common sense.

    12 is way to old to just begin stuffing their minds with as much as possible. My son is 3 and we've already burned two bibles together.

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    I go to a youth group thing on Wednesdays night for the sole fact they we play basketball after. Am I going to ?

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    12 is way to old to just begin stuffing their minds with as much as possible. My son is 3 and we've already burned two bibles together.



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    My son is 3 and we've already burned two bibles together.
    He's 3 already? Holy sh*t, time flies.

    At any rate, it already sounds like you've brainwashed your girl into thinking religion is poison. It'll take a lot more than one weekend with the Bible-thumpers to change that opinion.

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