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    ........by our good friend Tim.

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    Dangerous, yes. But those thoughts are introduced to try to win the election, not for their dangerous side effects.
    Side effects that are entirely predictable, if one has any common sense.

    Good thing for Obama that either McCain or McCain's handlers don't.

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    Then you must think George Stephanopolis is trying to get Obama killed.

    The McCain campaign didn't INVENT this issue of Barack's association with Bill Ayers. This thing was batted around before Obama was even the nominee.

    And McCain chose to revive it.

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    And McCain chose to revive it.

    There's no crime in doing so and there are legitimate reasons for doing so. Obama may not be a terrorist, be he sure hangs out with some super left-wing nutjobs.

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    Then you must think George Stephanopolis is trying to get Obama killed.

    The McCain campaign didn't INVENT this issue of Barack's association with Bill Ayers. This thing was batted around before Obama was even the nominee.

    That's not the point of what we're saying and you know it.

    It's one thing to question Obama's serving on a SCHOOL board with Ayers as questionable, which by the way is a totally ridiculous accusation. It's another thing to say he pals around with known terrorists, when that clearly isn't the case.

    McCain and Palin knew what they were doing when they said what they said. They knew the ramifications, they knew the side effects. If there is ever a line we shouldn't cross in politics, this is it.

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    Then you must think George Stephanopolis is trying to get Obama killed.
    Context is everything. I can't get over the things people try to equate as apples to apples in this election.

    The old yelling fire in a crowded theater standard applies.

    A reporter doing his job and investigating the possible ties between a candidate and their past associations is not the same thing as standing in a crowd of chanting, cheering (and, often, somewhat frightened) people and calling someone a terrorist. It just isn't. Trying to compare the two is an insult to anyone with an IQ over 6.

    Mob fights take place at sporting events. People in chanting, screaming groups have to be handled responsibly. Anyone applying for the job of leading our nation should know that.

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    Another round of ASSumptions and inferences that simply make no sense by our good friend Tim.

    Obama lathering his supporters? Give me a break. He's allowed to point out his opponent's POLICY flaws, that's sort of what people running for office do. They compare and contrast their policy decisions. If Obama wants to say that McCain will for the most part continue George W. Bush's policies, he is perfectly in his right to do so. That is not "lathering his supporters", that's not even subtly "lathering his supporters". How you made this inference is beyond reason, you and Angel Luv need to get a room
    TheMadHatter again showing off his great reading comprehension skills. Do you not know what lathering means? If you don't think Obama equating McCain's every move to Bush isn't lathering his supporters, dropping out of high school wasn't the greatest of ideas for you.

    It is in no way, shape, or form the same as what Palin and the McCain camp have been running around saying. The "Obama pals around with terrorists" statement was directly intended to incite fear and paranoia amongst the electorate. It is no surprise that we see the hate fests and outright racism at the McCain/Palin rallies now. That level of hostility DIDN'T EXIST a mere two months ago. Don't believe me, go look at the mountains of footage we have available. The hostility started as soon as the McCain campaign decided to manipulate the electorate's fear of terrorism.
    Were you born after the primaries?

    Seriously?

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    There's no crime in doing so and there are legitimate reasons for doing so. Obama may not be a terrorist, be he sure hangs out with some super left-wing nutjobs.
    I think Obama deserves a mild amount of criticism for cutting corners and agreeing to serve on the Annenberg Challenge with Ayers and for letting Ayers host a fundraiser. Politicians cut corners, Obama is no different and this is an example of that. McCain has chosen to make that relationship the centerpiece of his campaign, and he let his VP make the charge that he "pals around with terrorists," not "he served on a board with Bill Ayers in an act of political cowardice."

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    Side effects that are entirely predictable, if one has any common sense.
    So McCain could concede?

    Good thing for Obama that either McCain or McCain's handlers don't.
    Maybe.

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    Where were the Obama supporters rushing in to say that this guy was a deranged criminal and not a direct soldier sent from McCain's camp? From that story, you don't even know who he's voting for ... yet that didn't stop the connection.

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    There's no crime in doing so and there are legitimate reasons for doing so. Obama may not be a terrorist, be he sure hangs out with some super left-wing nutjobs.
    It's his JOB. Like it or not Ayers sits on community boards that a politician like Obama has to deal with. The fact that he listened respectfully and interacted like an adult with Ayers isn't a damning thing. It proves he's a grown up.

    Do you know how many politicians had interactions with the People's Temple in the 60s? Nearly every politician in California.

    McCain has had to spend time with the the right-wing nut job fundamentalists as well. He's made peace with Falwell in the name of trying to woo his base. Falwell said Americans deserved what happened on 9/11. Has Biden or Obama said McCain pals around with people who hate America?

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    Obama may not be a terrorist,



    no one said he ever was. they're just questioning his association with them. i hang out with obama supporters. does that make me an obaMESSidencon? no!! i'm sure we ALL hang out with various drunks, drug addicts, junkies,
    domestic abusers( B2B), etc...


    does that mean you're one?

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    catching this guy sounds like a job for angel.

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    McSleazeBall and pitbull are overwhelmingly responsible for their own slime, slander, lies, and inflammatory demagoguery and rabble rousing.

    If the tone of the campaign inflames people of either side to violence, the responsibility is with the Repugs, not with the Dems. Been like that for 20 years, going back to A er's tool Willie Horton.

    Pathetic liberal forum.

    Somehow I knew you'd try and brush this off as the fault of the Republicans.

    You've reached a new low today, ons

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    The report:

    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...56/detail.html

    Drudge's headline:

    SHOCK: MCCAIN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH...'B' CARVED INTO 20-YEAR OLD WOMAN'S FACE... DEVELOPING...

    Drudge is huge player in the right-wing hate-media, as his lying headline shows.

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    She was getting cash from an ATM and her attacker saw her wearing a McCain button and flipped out. But to Drudge she's a "campaign volunteer."

    What a bag he is.

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    is anyone surprised that it was a cowardly black man that did this ?

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    She was getting cash from an ATM and her attacker saw her wearing a McCain button and flipped out. But to Drudge she's a "campaign volunteer."

    What a bag he is.
    Did you read the article?

    Friends said she is in Pittsburgh volunteering for the McCain-Palin campaign.

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    interesting that anyone would sit still while someone scratches a letter in their face.

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    Did you read the article?
    She wasn't canvassing at the time, was she?

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    ed up what that idiot did and I hope they catch him.

    At the same time I could see it coming. The monkey and the (photo below) is the kind of stuff that makes people angry and makes the idiots go over the top.



    Racist Anti-Obama Display Hung From Tree in Fairfield

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    She wasn't canvassing at the time, was she?
    So that doesn't make her a campaign volunteer? WTF?

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    i think it's interesting that a volunteer would sit still while someone carves a letter your face.

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    Pretty horrible story, if true. I would be my skeptical myself but I'm sure the left well have every aspect of her life on display before morning.

    Does she owe taxes? Has she ever been evicted? What were her grades in school?

    Can't wait

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    interesting that anyone would sit still while someone scratches a letter in their face.
    A backwards letter at that.

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