c'mon, Anti.Hero...don't go all "thermite" on us.
Hey, I'm no do ent expert, but I could produce something as good as that. The overlapping lower left-hand border overlap is pretty dubious. I haven't seen that in ANY other example that I've looked at.
EDIT> After reexamination, the entire border is pretty much jacked up.
Why doesn't he just show people the original. I have mine.
Because I don't believe it and value your esteemed opinion.
I simply made this thread so I could do the most epic bump in spurstalk.com history if it comes true a couple months from now.
Two years ago it took me 6 months to get a certified copy of my birth certificate and it was a royal pain in the ass. I was not running for president or serving in office at any level. How long did it take Obama?
The seal is on the back of the do ent. In some copies you can see it through the paper more clearly than others.
Because this guy doesn't deserve the time of day.
Why does that matter to you?Tell me why the snopes/factcheck copy had a seal and the certificate of live birth originally posted on Obama's website did not.
It's there.
This embossing being on only one side cracks me up. You can see it on both sides. LOL
He HAS shown people the original certified copy. Which is what you or I or anyone else in the US would show if they didn't have the first original and needed proof of US birth.
There has been extensive graphic analysis, but the best one I know of is here:
http://xenon.arcticus.com/barack-oba...ering-analysis
good idea. everyone in the country can just pass it around until we're all satisfied that Barack was born in Hawaii. Why has nobody asked for McCain's (or any other white person's) birth certificate?
But you don't value your own.
There have already been multiple threads about this. Try making something original.I simply made this thread so I could do the most epic bump in spurstalk.com history if it comes true a couple months from now.
The stamp is on the back. Of course it bled through to the other side.
Dan believes Bush could have orchestrated 9/11 but he doesn't think it is a possibility that democratic/media elite could pull this off.
And chump is so offended at the mere discussion.
Where's our friendly neighborhood conspiracy guru Galileo hiding.
Berg thinks Bush orchestrated 9/11 too. Think about that for awhile.Dan believes Bush could have orchestrated 9/11 but he doesn't think it is a possibility that democratic/media elite could pull this off.
Bored with the same lame debunked arguments. Just like 9/11.And chump is so offended at the mere discussion.
..still waiting for Chumpy (or anyone) to debunk that the Government knew more about 9/11 than they have released....
What do you think Howard Dean knows about Obama when this funny business was brought to his attention just before the DNC?
....still waiting for you to say what you think really happened on 9/11....you'll have to tell me how government foreknowledge fits into your theory.
Shall I bump that thread for you?
...Dean's 50-state strategary looks like a winner?
Dan, what if the people setting up this Obama presidency allowed Bush to do his thing so their guy would have easy access to the presidency!
That was a good analysis and proves that no one took an original and altered it with any photoshoppery. I just wonder if the entire thing is a forgery. Mostly, I'm wondering about the paper, that looks different than what I've seen. The font seems consistent with that time period.
I mean, if I create a fake dollar bill and scan it, that guys analysis will only show that no one has jacked with it. He only tries to authenticate the do ent from an image processing perspective --- NOT a historical legal do ent perspective.
Can someone please tell me why that paper and border are different. I'm open minded. I don't know if it's real or fake, only that it looks different to me.
What, are you going to cut out the section of the cave where it is painted?
Are you talking about the watermark pattern?
and I thought that the right wingers called us crazy conspiracy theorists. Now it seems the roles have switched, even thinking Obama isn't a born US citizen is borderline insanity. To think that someone running for candidacy with as much press as he's gotten wasn't a born citizen is seriously reaching.
Once the haters get ousted on an issue surrounding Obama, they immediately move to another piece of dirt they can get their hands on, as ridiculous as it may or may not be; the process has repeated constantly. This is another issue that wouldn't have arose if not for his color, that's just plain truth, same as the Muslim/terrorist pandering talks. It's closest racism at its roots.
Last edited by dg7md; 10-23-2008 at 10:16 PM.
how ing stupid do you have to be to believe he is running for pres having not been born in the U.S.
The neocons are desperate it seems, the ayers drama failed and they are trying to bring this up again.
Just stupid stupid stupid, didn't know i could find so much of it on a forum
Not really.
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