Kahn: Free throws could ruin Lebron's legacy

[Killakobe81]

Here we go again ...Look Lebron is one of the best and my favorite non-Laker but as good as he is ...some points in the article are valid ...
1. FT shooting way better than SHAQ but for a guy that gifted unacceptable
2. his jumper is was too erratic ...now granted with his speed and size id rather him drive anyway ....
3. for him to be the MVP he doesnt need lockdown D (where is Steve Nash's?) but to catch Kobe and eventually MJ he does need ALL of the above

Everyone harps on Kobe's Finals but LBJ's last 2 big games Game 7 and gold medal ...Pierce outplayed him late (team game but Pierce's diving on floor cluth shooting where they keys) and in Gold medal Wade & kobe made the clutch plays not LBJ ...

And for those that ask the well he is further ahead than Kobe at same age ...so was Penny it's how you finish not how you begin ...

As for the SHAQ comments with great FT's Shaq averagiung well over 30 ppg ...more scoring les MVP's and maybe at least 2 more les

[Allanon]

http://www.82games.com/CSORT11.HTM

clutch stats

The problem with those stats is:

It does not show the won or lost statistic. You can play great but if you can't close it out and win, it doesn't matter.

It's very similar to the Celtics game. LeBron was playing pretty good, he had his hand in EVERY posession. He got his points and his assists. But come down to the last 10 seconds, he missed 2 of 4 free throws cuz the Celtics just fouled him.

According to 82games, that would be a "clutch" performance for those last 5 minutes. But the end result was his team lost.

[Allanon]

Shaq had Kobe and Dwayne, and Phil Jackson and Pat Riley.

Lebron has ... ?

That is a good point. And that's why LeBron's free throw shooting might affect his legacy.

Shaq had Kobe and DWade to take over in the 4th quarters so Shaq sat when they started the Hack-a-Shaq thing.

If LeBron can get another player to take care of the close 4th quarters and shoot free throws for him during Hack-a-Lebron, he'll be able to secure his legacy. Otherwise, he'll have to improve his FT shooting.

[monosylab1k]

Yes. The reason LeBron hasn't won a le with teammates like Boobie Gibson, Anderson Varejao, Ben Wallace, Delonte West, and Lorenzen Wright.... is because he shoots free throws poorly.

Wow. That's got to be it.

They've gotten to the Finals and took the champs to a Game 7....they can't be all that bad of teammates.

His FT's alone aren't some indicator that LeBron will or won't win a le. They're more of an indicator of how hungry he really is to win one. For a guy as skilled as LeBron, shooting free throws is something he can easily correct with some extra effort and concentration. IMO the ty FT shooting shows that LeBron isn't nearly as concerned with being the GOAT and winning a le as he is with being a "global icon".

[monosylab1k]

http://www.82games.com/CSORT11.HTM

clutch stats

according to that, Dirk is #3 in the league and more clutch than Ginobili or Duncan. , according to that chart Raymond Felton is more clutch than Duncan. You really wanna go with that?

[robbie380]

according to that, Dirk is #3 in the league and more clutch than Ginobili or Duncan. , according to that chart Raymond Felton is more clutch than Duncan. You really wanna go with that?

it is sorted by points per 48 min of clutch ( 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points) time.

[robbie380]

The problem with those stats is:

It does not show the won or lost statistic. You can play great but if you can't close it out and win, it doesn't matter.

It's very similar to the Celtics game. LeBron was playing pretty good, he had his hand in EVERY posession. He got his points and his assists. But come down to the last 10 seconds, he missed 2 of 4 free throws cuz the Celtics just fouled him.

According to 82games, that would be a "clutch" performance for those last 5 minutes. But the end result was his team lost.

the reason why i posted that was to show that lebron's ft% is actually higher in the clutch (4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points). 79% v 73% for his career

[RsxPiimp]

it is sorted by points per 48 min of clutch ( 4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points) time.

sorted by PER 48 mins


there you go

[RsxPiimp]

how the is this guy going to be clutch when he cant hit a decent percentage at the stripe?



this is ridiculous.



lebron homers needs to shut the up

[robbie380]

sorted by PER 48 mins


there you go

do you want it per 36? then multiply by .75

[Allanon]

the reason why i posted that was to show that lebron's ft% is actually higher in the clutch (4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points). 79% v 73% for his career

I think a better measurement would be free throws in the last 2 minutes and would like to see how many of those clutch free throw points came along with wins. But we'll see how it goes for him this year.

[Many PackYao]

He can ask Yao during the off-season for some pointers on how to get done from the stripe. , even T-mac is making his now.

[robbie380]

I think a better measurement would be free throws in the last 2 minutes and would like to see how many of those clutch free throw points came along with wins. But we'll see how it goes for him this year.

if anyone had those stats that would be nice too but i didn't see those anywhere.

[pauls931]

Bad free throw shooting ruined Shaq's chance at winning 18 NBA les.

fixed

[Allanon]

if anyone had those stats that would be nice too but i didn't see those anywhere.

I understand, thanks for posting the stats Robbie, I guess we'll have to wait and see what LeBron does.