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    The team desperately needs frontcourt help. I'm ecstatic to see Bowen playing much better than he did in the first 5 games or so. I'm not so excited with what I'm seeing out of Kurt. He looks like he's aged 5 years in the offseason, and he looks incredibly slow and unathletic, even relative to last season. I can always hope Oberto plays over his head like the 2007 postseason, but that's a of a thing to depend on. Unless Mahinmi can come in and play well enough to be our consistent #2 big, I'd put the probability of getting through LA (not to mention Boston) low. TD, Manu, and TP could all have great series and beat LA with some aid from the bench, but without upgrading our bigs I wouldn't call it very probable. The team's starting to show some potential, but it's deeply flawed when Tim is the only bigman on the team that can be counted on.


    Im sure theyre very aware of the problem.

    Something will be done.....you can bet on that

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    Alonzo Mourning
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    are all current big man FA's.....

    Im pretty sure the spurs have considered adding one of them to the roster

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    I cannot say how good this team is because it is incomplete at the moment. All that I can say is that they are showing loads of potential.

    I am hoping that when Manu, Tony, and Ian are in the rotations, they will destroy all the other teams. It looks like it could be a very real possibility.

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    Im sure theyre very aware of the problem.

    Something will be done.....you can bet on that
    Pop and everyone else are going to ask santa for an athletic big this christmas?

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    Pathetic suck ass spurs...

    The Jazz were without their best players in Williams, Boozer, Korver and Collins.

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    Alonzo Mourning
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    are all current big man FA's.....

    Im pretty sure the spurs have considered adding one of them to the roster

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    Even when Parker and Ginobili return, I don't think very good mostly because of the front court. I think they'll still continue to struggle against teams with a lot of front court talent and depth. But, with Parker and Ginobili still a very dangerous team that can win on any given night. In a seven game series, I think they still need help upfront. Duncan can not be the only quality big down low.

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    Even when Parker and Ginobili return, I don't think very good mostly because of the front court. I think they'll still continue to struggle against teams with a lot of front court talent and depth. But, with Parker and Ginobili still a very dangerous team that can win on any given night. In a seven game series, I think they still need help upfront. Duncan can not be the only quality big down low.
    Eh, I disagree. We won a championship in 07 without another quality big. The main problem is rebounding, which we've got the personnel to take care of. If Bonner continues getting big minutes, and KT shapes into form/Ian makes any sort of splash, we'll be solid upfront with a shooter without sacrificing (much) defense or boarding, then a defensive presence beside Tim. Ian has the physical gifts to be a very good component on D.

    I mean, look at Phoenix series last PO - it was hard fought but really we rolled them, and they have Shaq AND Amare. Or how about the next series against NO? West and Chandler made us look bad at times, especially West, but when the chips were on the table, the Spurs were simply better, despite being overwhelmed upfront.

    I actually don't even see the gist of your idea if you want me to truthful. It's a copout to say because we don't have another all-star capable big, we're not a very good team, when in actuality, a healthy spurs team from the beginning is the second best in the west right now, minimum.

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    I think it's best for the team if we cut the rotation a bit, when TP and Manu return. So that the ones who contribute can keep doing that on regular level. If you take away alot of minutes from Mason, Hill that will hurt the team when the available amount of time is to be divided between the rest of the bench.

    I'd prefere an nine man rotation with:

    TD
    Parker
    Manu
    Mason
    Hill
    Finley
    Mahinmi
    Bowen
    Bonner

    Oberto, Tolliver, Vaughn, Udoka, Ahearn, Thomas fight for the rest of the minutes unless when of them can knock off another player from the main rotation (Bonner, Mahinmi..)

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    I think it's best for the team if we cut the rotation a bit, when TP and Manu return. So that the ones who contribute can keep doing that on regular level. If you take away alot of minutes from Mason, Hill that will hurt the team when the available amount of time is to be divided between the rest of the bench.

    I'd prefere an nine man rotation with:

    TD
    Parker
    Manu
    Mason
    Hill
    Finley
    Mahinmi
    Bowen
    Bonner

    Oberto, Tolliver, Vaughn, Udoka, Ahearn, Thomas fight for the rest of the minutes unless when of them can knock off another player from the main rotation (Bonner, Mahinmi..)
    lol ... we haven't even seen Mahinmi play 1 minute yet, and you've got him pencilled in as a starter is appears. No ing way does he instantly become a starter, it will still be (unfortunately) Oberto or Thomas as the starters alongside Duncan for a good chunk of the year

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    Eh, I disagree. We won a championship in 07 without another quality big. The main problem is rebounding, which we've got the personnel to take care of. If Bonner continues getting big minutes, and KT shapes into form/Ian makes any sort of splash, we'll be solid upfront with a shooter without sacrificing (much) defense or boarding, then a defensive presence beside Tim. Ian has the physical gifts to be a very good component on D.

    I mean, look at Phoenix series last PO - it was hard fought but really we rolled them, and they have Shaq AND Amare. Or how about the next series against NO? West and Chandler made us look bad at times, especially West, but when the chips were on the table, the Spurs were simply better, despite being overwhelmed upfront.

    I actually don't even see the gist of your idea if you want me to truthful. It's a copout to say because we don't have another all-star capable big, we're not a very good team, when in actuality, a healthy spurs team from the beginning is the second best in the west right now, minimum.
    I think the teams in the Western Conference this year are different than two years ago with their frontcourts. I think Phoenix would be a tougher problem this year than last year because they utilize Shaq more. I think New Orleans will be a tougher match-up for the Spurs this year as they got that year experience in the playoffs. The Lakers already beat the Spurs in a playoff series without Andrew Bynum. Heck, I think the Spurs could struggle against Denver in a playoff series because of Nene.

    Like I said, the Spurs are still dangerous. Parker, Ginobili or Duncan could each drop a 40 point game if one of them got hot. But, I think in a seven game series, that front court will hurt the Spurs.

    That's my opinion.

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    Won't get far on only jumpers.

    Spurs are still a good 2nd big away from having a good shot at winning WCF.

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    We may not be the best, but we're not any worse than any of the rest of the Western Conference. Most of the top teams have faced injuries, so the Lakers have been handed some games. The Lakers are still average, and are probably the worst NBA Finals contestant this decade.
    cleveland?

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    Being in Canada I get to watch zero games, but I flow basically the team on a daily basis and I figured it was time to chime in. All the injuries that have happened are a blessing. We have given the chance to a lot of players that would not have had the playing time normally to get confident and show what they can do. This can only help in the long run. Also let me add that I was never one to be OH THE SEASON IS OVER type crap when Parker got hurt, but how the team has done was beyond what I thought was going to happen. I figured they would have a slight losing record and win here and there but this team is hot!!!!

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    Pathetic suck ass spurs...

    The Jazz were without their best players in Williams, Boozer, Korver and Collins.
    nice sig.....i can definitely feel your hostility.....btw....the Spurs have been in the Suns, prison style, for the last 6 years. I wonder if Nash, Stoudamire, Bell, Marion, and D'Antoni have nightmares about SA?

    btw, the way you feel about us is the way I felt about the Jazz when they had the two dirtiest bas s to ever play the game.....Stockton and Malone, or even the Showtime Lakers.....

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    With Tony and Manu back (hopefully 100%) the team looks pretty damned good. But it's not going to be enough without someone in the middle to help Duncan. Fab and Kurt Thomas aren't getting it done. It will be interesting to see what Mahinmi will actually bring to the team when he comes back.

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    we're the 2nd best team in the West when we add Parker and Ginobili, which is what I predicted at the beginning of the season..

    we need help at SF..I'd like to see some kind of a push for Azubuike, since he's now expandable with the high amount of swingmen on the Warriors roster at the moment..

    the big man is obviously important, but it's being exaggerated here..while we will struggle vs. other teams with big men(actually, it's pretty much only the Lakers that can give us size problems), we have the best backcourt in the NBA with Tony-Manu-Mason-Hill-Finley..that's a huge mismatch for our team, and we can easily exploit other teams..

    if Mahinmi is good enough to take the starting C job, we're as good as anybody IMO..but that will be tough, since he's unproven..

    just looking at other teams though..

    Lakers have Bynum-Gasol..this is the main compe ion..Bynum doesn't have much of an offensive game, but he's been dominant defensively and on the boards, so Duncan will need support here..at least Bonner would be able to take one of them out of the paint though, so that's some kind of a positive..

    NO has West and Chandler..this is a problem defensively, since we can't guard West unless Duncan is on him, but then Chandler is getting alley-oops all day..on the other hand, focusing entirely on CP3 and Peja like we did at the end of the series is huge here, since that would be a big hit to West and Chandler's offense..West isn't a great rebounder or defender at all..we are a better team than we were last year with the extra depth now, while NO looks worse than last year..

    Utah's frontcourt isn't a threat..Boozer struggles against us and struggles in the playoffs in general..Okur isn't an aggressive frontcourt player..this one isn't a problem..

    Denver isn't a threat at all IMO..Nene defends Duncan well, but their perimeter defense is still average..Billups improves it, but there's no way Chauncey can stay with Tony, and there's even less of a chance that their other 2 positions can stay with Manu and Mason..major mismatch for us..

    Phoenix is a joke..

    the Lakers are the elite team in the West this year, and we'll need Mahinmi to be good enough to start or trading for a big man here..their size advantage is significant..

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    Fisher/Farmar Parker/Hill
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    Gasol/Odom Duncan/Oberto
    Bynum/Gasol Mahinmi/Thomas


    its a wash
    Bynum and Gasol are much much better than Mahinmi and Thomas. That is where the true problem lies. It is not a wash. Even our best players have a pretty equal or better player on the Lakers going against them. It will be tough and require a combo of good shooting, consistent defense and some luck to beat the Lakers as things stand now.

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    Fisher/Farmar Parker/Hill
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    Gasol/Odom Duncan/Oberto
    Bynum/Gasol Mahinmi/Thomas


    its a wash
    Didn't notice til later, but you can't put Gasol twice, unless he's been cloned and I didn't know. Same with Odom. God damn, what kind of crazy is going on in LA???

    And why hasn't CIA Pop cloned Timmy yet?

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    The Spurs are too small. There is no way they could handle the Lakers, Blazers, or even the Suns in the playoffs this year. They would be dominated inside.

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    The Spurs are too small. There is no way they could handle the Lakers, Blazers, or even the Suns in the playoffs this year. They would be dominated inside.
    I don't buy that at all. The Lakers maybe...

    But the Suns have proven that they can't overpower the Spurs inside. Any advantage they have inside is more than negated by the fact the Suns simply can't guard Parker/Manu. No matter what philosophy Porter wants to instill in that team, their best line-up still has 3 players who are terrible defensively. Bell/Hill can't cover for that many defensive breakdowns.

    And your Blazers have to at least make the playoffs before they are considered a huge threat. I'm not as high on Aldridge as a lot of people. Against the Spurs, he seems perfectly content to shoot 15 footers. And he's one of the worst rebounding 6'11+ forwards in the entire league. Oden, meanwhile, has yet to prove that he'll even be on the floor come May.

    Any hope for the Spurs rests in the return of Manu & Tony (and Duncan staying healthy). But that's a given in any season.

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    the Suns can't beat us..do we have to go through this EVERY year?!..they just can't beat us..

    LA is the only team we wouldn't be able to beat in a 7-game series when we're healthy..we would need Mahinmi or another big..or a SF like Azubuike as well..

    I wouldn't oppose to seeing Zo in a Spurs uniform though, if he's interested later on in the year..he wouldn't get pushed around by anybody, he's still a great shot blocker and still has great defensive instincts..he doesn't score much, but we don't need scoring from the frontcourt, just rebounding and defense..

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    This current team is as good as the 3 point shooting. We live and die from beyond the arc. We died by it against the nuggets and we lived with it last night. And it has nothing todo with the teams we beat or lose to. Or with Manu and TP out. Its that simple

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    This current team is as good as the 3 point shooting. We live and die from beyond the arc. We died by it against the nuggets and we lived with it last night. And it has nothing todo with the teams we beat or lose to. Or with Manu and TP out. Its that simple
    That's always been the case though. Tim inside, Tony & Manu penetrating, and Pop surrounds them with as many shooters as possible.

    The Spurs have never won much without the outside shot falling. Luckily, they've done a pretty good job (contrary to what is often stated on here) of finding the right shooters to fit into this team over the years.

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    Pathetic suck ass spurs...

    The Jazz were without their best players in Williams, Boozer, Korver and Collins.
    The Spurs were missing Manu, Parker, and Ian, so what is your point.

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