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Wow...Thanks to sea ice growing at the fastest pace since 1979, the daily global sea ice anomaly is back to zero -- basically the same amount present in 1980.
It's at the long term average!
Where's the decrease in ice mass Random?
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Wow...Thanks to sea ice growing at the fastest pace since 1979, the daily global sea ice anomaly is back to zero -- basically the same amount present in 1980.
It's at the long term average!
Where's the decrease in ice mass Random?
His big number was a lot scarier than my graph.
Looks like I need to go back to calling him RandomPropagandaGuy?
it just needed some music in a minor key
all the disbelief in this forum still can't explain the unusual temp shifts...going from one extreme to the other...the extreme cool to extreme hot(this past summer was cool by local standards, just wait to see what this upcoming one brings) only proves global warming right...
two words.
mother nature.
you think mankind can overcome nature? hmm?
It's called weather. Something meteorologists can't predict three days out.
weather? mother nature?
next you'll say it's "god"...
and that the world is only 6k years old...
back it up with some facts and i might take it as less of a joke...
How 'bout they back up the "global climate change" up with some facts, first.
The facts are; this planet has -- several times in its history -- been damn colder and damn hotter than it is right now. It's liable to get damn cold and damn hot again. And, there isn't a damn thing we can do about it except adapt.
then what fossil fuels and greenhouse gases contributed to the end of the last ice age?
and tax
Before you know it, helicopters will start flash-freezing in mid air. If you see a giant tidal wave and it's followed by flash freezing, you'd better get yourself to the nearest public library and start burning books in one of the old reading rooms. It is the only thing that will keep you alive.
wow chicken little that had nothing to do w/what i was saying...by no means, in any of my post will you ever find me to be a global warming sensationalist...what i can't deny is the increasingly warm gulf waters, extreme temp change, and water levels, not to forget the fact that the population is closing in on numbers that this planet has never seen before, which can only contribute to more climate change...but whatever go read a bible and pray that your "god" can stop this....
There are cycles in everything of nature. Global Warming is not necessarily the cause of any increases here. At least not anything significant.
I doubt that, but at least you didn't say unsustainable. You could build outer city type four story apartments, shopping, parks, industry, etc. The whole works, for 6 billion people and place it all within Texas. And the apartment size can be 1200 sq ft per person! Farming of course would take up much more area. Maybe the rest of the USA.
Okay, where have there been extreme water level changes? And, when it comes to temperature changes, define extreme. Once again, this planet has been a whole lot cooler and a whole lot warmer -- extremely cooler and extremely warmer -- than it is right now and that all the global cooling, global warming, and global climate change alarmists even claim it will ever achieve.[/quote]
Really, how?
So, just what is the ideal temperature, sea level, and ice concentration of this planet? And, why?
this is an epic thread.
-Mars
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories...matestats.html
NOAA: Global Temperature for November Fourth Warmest on Record
December 16, 2008
The year 2008 is on track to be one of the 10 warmest years on record for the globe, based on the combined average of worldwide land and ocean surface temperatures, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. For November alone, the month is fourth warmest all-time globally, for the combined land and ocean surface temperature. The early assessment is based on records dating back to 1880.
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How many more of the temperature monitors have asphalt laid around them than before, or air conditioner vents blowing on them, etc...
I wonder?
The article displays a remarkable level of ignorance on the part of the Associated Press...particularly the part (you left out) where they say the current cooling trend proves the earth is warming.
Global temperature records are nowhere near accurate enough to rank years, over a period of centuries, with any confidence. For the recent past, though, we have the world's best data set here in the U.S. And it's true that at one time, it was widely believed that the 1990s were the warmest recent decade. But that was before it was discovered that NASA's James Hansen, Al Gore's chief scientific ally, had been fudging the data, either accidentally or on purpose. NASA was forced to correct its data, with the result that the ten warmest years on record here in the US are as follows: 1934, 1998, 1921, 2006, 1931, 1999, 1953, 1990, 1938, 1939.
The AP apparently hasn't gotten the word, perhaps because it is relying on the report of the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. But the IPCC report was a political do ent, not a scientific one, which deliberately ignored the most current research in the field.
Finally, the AP's claim that the last 11 years have included all of the 10 warmest "on record" is plausible only if you take a very narrow view of the record. It seems obvious that when we talk about the planet's climate, a broader perspective is necessary. So here is the [URL="http://www.heartland.org/custom/semod_policybot/pdf/22835.pdf"]broader perspective[/URL]:
When we talk about "global warming" it is important to ask the right questions. Is the earth continuing to warm up from the "Little Ice Age"? Yes, it has been, at least until recently. Fortunately. Is the earth continuing to warm up from the last real Ice Age, around 10,000 years ago, when the spot where I am now typing was buried under ice a half mile thick? Yes, thankfully! Is the earth warming up compared to where it was five or ten years ago? No.
Many scientists believe that we are entering an era of global cooling. That may or may not be true; climate science is in its infancy and we cannot predict with any confidence what the weather will be 10, 20, or 50 years hence. What we can say for certain is that the way in which the weather "issue" is covered by the Associated Press and other media outlets is a disgrace.
Scientists Denounce AP For Hysterical Global Warming Article
Here's a link worth reading again:
Watts Up With That? August 2007
A few frames from it:
I'll bet this one measures a little on the high side
Or this one?
Another one next to an air field -- this one in Petaluma, CA.
Sure, Yoni.
Now tell me where that ice formed.
Source?
(let me guess, it rhymes with "your grass")
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