manu should be dealt

[pawe]

And besides, if they trade Manu, SpursTalk will become a ghost town. Seriously, Manu's worth is not about making the right plays all the time. He is best at closing out games, energizing the team and just a great locker room person.

[PURO SAN ANTO 210!]

Manu Is Gonna Be Allright. He's Not Yet 100% Imo. I Think He's A Lil Worried About Really Goin All Out. But I Think He'll Be Back To The Ol Manu Soon!!!!!!

[romad_20]

Manu Is Gonna Be Allright. He's Not Yet 100% Imo. I Think He's A Lil Worried About Really Goin All Out. But I Think He'll Be Back To The Ol Manu Soon!!!!!!

Fingers crossed, I guess we'll wait a little longer.

[phyzik]

the only thing this thread proves is that people are idiots.

[koriwhat]

I thought it was a good idea last year when he had a ton of trade value...now he is damaged goods and I don't think you would get equal or better value for him. Probably better to keep him at this point.

damaged goods... haha. what are you smoking because you surely are bogarting that so pass it already!

[mexicanjunior]

damaged goods... haha. what are you smoking because you surely are bogarting that so pass it already!

Ankle injuries and alot of mileage...I'd say that hurts his value.

[Kori Ellis]

Ankle injuries and alot of mileage...I'd say that hurts his value.

Age and injuries hurt a player's value, but to dub Manu as "damaged goods" is a gross exaggeration. When a player can barely run or jump after multiple surgeries, you call them damaged goods. When a guy is averaging 16/4/4 in 25 minutes a game, and shooting higher than he has in his career - then he's not damaged goods.

[ElNono]

Manu will be fine. He put a lot of heart today, even if he didn't have a great game shooting wise. I seriously doubt you can get equal value in return right now.

[mexicanjunior]

Age and injuries hurt a player's value, but to dub Manu as "damaged goods" is a gross exaggeration. When a player can barely run or jump after multiple surgeries, you call them damaged goods. When a guy is averaging 16/4/4 in 25 minutes a game, and shooting higher than he has in his career - then he's not damaged goods.

I'm not saying Manu is decrepit and useless, just that I think team's would think twice about trading equal or better value for him for the reasons you mentioned above. To me, that is damaged goods...

[ElNono]

I'm not saying Manu is decrepit and useless, just that I think team's would think twice about trading equal or better value for him for the reasons you mentioned above. To me, that is damaged goods...

I think you would be surprised to see how many teams would love to take Manu for what we're paying him. I don't think many people consider him damaged goods at all.

[mexicanjunior]

I think you would be surprised to see how many teams would love to take Manu for what we're paying him. I don't think many people consider him damaged goods at all.

I'm not saying he isn't a bargain for his salary, just that we wouldn't get equal returns in a trade...

[Chieflion]

I think you would be surprised to see how many teams would love to take Manu for what we're paying him. I don't think many people consider him damaged goods at all.

To add on, his trade value is higher because of the famous 2010 FA class.

[Rohirrim]

The Ultimate WildCard.

[Kori Ellis]

I'm not saying he isn't a bargain for his salary, just that we wouldn't get equal returns in a trade...

Even if he was perfectly healthy, you wouldn't get equal trade value for him. The guys that are as good as Manu make a lot more money, so it's hard to match salaries.

[ElNono]

I'm not saying he isn't a bargain for his salary, just that we wouldn't get equal returns in a trade...

Who ever gets equal or better value when you are trading a star player?
I just don't think your theory of damaged goods have anything to do with his trade value.

[mexicanjunior]

Who ever gets equal or better value when you are trading a star player?
.

So you are saying there are never trades that benefit both teams equally when big names are involved? I question that but am too lazy to look it up...

[mexicanjunior]

Even if he was perfectly healthy, you wouldn't get equal trade value for him. The guys that are as good as Manu make a lot more money, so it's hard to match salaries.

Even salaries aside, I don't think teams would be as willing to take on a player with the injury history and age of Manu for someone as good or better. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this...

[ElNono]

So you are saying there are never trades that benefit both teams equally when big names are involved? I question that but am too lazy to look it up...

Yeah. Think about all these guys that have been traded somewhat recently: Ray Allen, Pau Gasol, Shaq, KG... The only one you could say was a wash, could be Billups/Iverson. Then again, they swapped for basically players on the same position.

[ElNono]

Even salaries aside, I don't think teams would be as willing to take on a player with the injury history and age of Manu for someone as good or better. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this...

What 'injury history'??????!!!!! He just had his very first ever surgery in his entire career... You make it sound like he's T-Mac

[mexicanjunior]

What 'injury history'??????!!!!! He just had his very first ever surgery in his entire career... You make it sound like he's T-Mac

So he is only considered injured if he has surgery?

No one said he is T-Mac but he has been hurt since last May and still not recovered. Why would a team want to trade for a player that has not fully recovered from his current injury with no guarantee he will restore himself to the level he was last year?

[Sean Cagney]

great!now talking about tradinge THE ONLY ONE SPUR whom really wants to win!

So Tim, Tony or Mason and Hill etc., don't want to win?????? Tim especially doesn't want to win? Whats wrong with you guys in here, they all care.

[vander]

Even if he was perfectly healthy, you wouldn't get equal trade value for him. The guys that are as good as Manu make a lot more money, so it's hard to match salaries.

most of the guys I wish we could trade him for don't make enough

[Kori Ellis]

most of the guys I wish we could trade him for don't make enough

Yeah but no one is trading away up and coming stars on rookie contracts.

[vander]

Yeah but no one is trading away up and coming stars on rookie contracts.

I was setting my sites a little below that, an Iguodala-like player, young 2nd tier

[ElNono]

So he is only considered injured if he has surgery?

No, but you could say that a guy that had multiple surgeries to be 'damaged goods'. I mean, how can you even say a guy is damaged goods when he has played over 550 games in basically 6 years... and that without counting the games he has played for his national team.

No one said he is T-Mac but he has been hurt since last May and still not recovered. Why would a team want to trade for a player that has not fully recovered from his current injury with no guarantee he will restore himself to the level he was last year?

What do you mean 'not recovered'? He has played for 12 games in a row, he's got not a single limp on his leg. Had a 27 point game. Sure, he just got dropped in a team with new guys, and it takes games to get back in shape... I don't think he's doing anything different than any other year... and BTW, he's actually shooting a better percentage than his entire career...