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dont listen to mavsfan1000. hes a stupidass bandwagon fan. he was a fan of the bulls, then he hopped on the mavs when they got good, and pretty soon he will hope on the lebron bandwagon.
He is undersized at the PF, he doesnt rebound well, he cant guard PF and when they play him at center he has no chance. If Bass was 2 inches taller he would be a beast. he is a nice player who has several key flaws.
dont listen to mavsfan1000. hes a stupidass bandwagon fan. he was a fan of the bulls, then he hopped on the mavs when they got good, and pretty soon he will hope on the lebron bandwagon.
Bass is a serviceable backup PF, but only if his shot is falling.
He's not an important part of this team though, so I wouldn't mind seeing him leave in a package if one came along.
Regarding Howard, this team might not be MUCH better w/ him, which indicates how empty his stats are if a 20/8 player missing doesn't hurt, but we're not better without him IMO. Maybe his role should be reduced so all of these hypothetical drawbacks to his playing would not occur, but I'd rather have 25-30 minutes of JHO than 25-30 minutes of George... Then again, if Wright was healthy I imagine George wouldn't play as much.
bass needs more real time instead of practice. he's still lost most of the time because he needs more time during games. the guy can muscle he way thru the paint. we need that type of guy.
His awareness around the rim pisses me off sometimes. Tryin to dunk on 3 people, etc.
gotta play him more. same with jj. they need more time at the same time.
I wonder if there was ever any talks between Dallas and Charlotte about a J-Howard/G-Wallace trade. I know some people mentioned it here, but I wonder if it's something Charlotte would have really considered.
that trade is a lateral move for the mavs and makes no sense
Wallace brings D and is a slasher. I think he is a better player than Howard.
Wallace is a better one-on-one defender, brings tons of energy, and is a much better slasher. He also has some semblence of a post game.
Howard is a better shooter, slightly better rebounder, and has a higher basketball IQ (which isn't saying much, both of them have incredibly low basketball IQ).
Both are injury prone. Neither are any good at help defense, tho Wallace will at least go for blocks. Give me Wallace. Howard's somewhat superior shooting doesn't offset the qualities that Wallace gives us.
Not even close to a lateral move, IMO.
If your gonna trade J-Ho, Wallace is not the guy you trade him for. Adding Wallace is not going to take the Mavs to the next level or make them better than any of the teams ahead of them....thats what i mean by a lateral move
I like the chances of Wallace fitting into the flow of the team better than J-Ho. We'll see how he behaves when he gets back from injury, but if he's chucking stepback jumpers, trying to control the ball on offense, and stopping all chemistry, I'll take anything for him.
I think it would be an upgrade, plus I think it would be something Charlotte would consider. I'm just not sure if they have.
I think part of the reason it would benefit the Mavs is that it would get rid of Josh Howard while replacing him with someone with comparable talent minus the distractions and off the court stupidity. Gerald Wallace has his own flaws as already mentioned. But, I think he'd also be a better fit with Jason Kidd because I think he runs the floor better and finishes in transition better. He also doesn't try to be a blackhole so the offense could still run through Dirk, Terry, and Kidd to an extent as far as decision making and shot distribution. Gerald Wallace could be a great complimentary player. Part of Josh Howard's problem is that he could be a great complimentary player but he thinks he's a great go-to player.
It could be argued that it would be a lateral move based on talent. But, other considerations and factors could easily make it an upgrade.
Anyway, I just wanted to know if there were or possibly could be any legs to a trade like that.
There are some fans that want the mavs to trade for Felton and Wallace. I think Felton is garbage and is a shooting PG that cant shoot. His %'s are awful
Howard is better than Wallace. With all of Josh's bull , I'd rather have him that G-Force.
That said, give me Kamen over Josh.
Is this still the popular opinion of most Mavs fans, or is everyone starting to come around to my way of thinking here?
Josh lost his grandma and spent the rest of the season moping, smoking pot & talking about it on the radio, and otherwise sucking ass.
Gerald lost his father and dropped 22 points in his first game back 26 in his second, playing defense like a madman and rebounding while shooting an ungodly FG%.
Far be it from me to tell someone how to handle their grief, but I think it's pretty obvous which of these two players has more mental toughness.
Josh is better than Wallace, but you're probably right that Wallace as a Mav would be better than Josh as a Mav. At this point I just want Josh gone.
As an opposition fan of a team that Josh has torched in the past, I would be much more worried about the Mavs if they replaced Josh with Gerald Wallace.
Wallace is a great slasher who actually slashes unlike Howard who used to be a great slasher but simply doesn't do it anymore. Wallace is more athletic, more lively, hustles more and has a far better post game. Wallace would be a better smallball PF as well. Wallace is better on D in the man to man and in defensive numbers and is an absolutely incredible transition defender. It's hard to tell what his team defense is like playing for Charlotte who for the past few years have lacked anything resembling team defense. That said, he is a pretty good weakside shotblocker for a swingman.
Howard is a much better midrange shooter and a bit better ball handler. Passing is probably a wash, Josh is probably a more talented passer when he decides to actually pass. It's a shame what he has become, I used to really like his game, but it really has gone down the ter.
If the Mavs could get Gerald Wallace for him it's an absolute no brainer. Kidd, Terry, Wallace and Dirk would be a nice sight for Mavs fans.
Josh is better than Wallace when he wants to be. But 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks and 2 turnovers yesterday against the Wiz is no accident. What a lazy bag he is now.
Something tells me Josh has been pouting and tanking it on the cool ever since the trade. We're gonna trade him to some team and he'll actually start playing again and become a perennial all star, it'll be Devin Harris all over again.
It's a shame because it seemed he was a mentally strong player prior to, and it has just disappeared. Mental toughness doesn't grow on trees, and as a coach i'm sure you'd love to have players with it, just as much as players love playing with a player who has it.
That would be an absolute shame, especially as a fan of the team who currently has him on the roster. The boos would be dripping from the ceiling in his many returns to Dallas if this were to occur.
I think we'll see something similar to Vince Carter's transformation from Toronto to New Jersey when the Mavs finally move him...and that is something that I do not understand and have a hard time forgiving. Dallas isn't as good now as in recent years, but you could do a lot worse as a player than being drafted into a franchise that annually wins 50+ games and has legitimate le aspirations, instead of being expected to carry a lottery team. I also believe that if Howard played up to his potential, the Mavs would be significantly better, probably not in the Boston/LA/Cleveland class, but in the Utah/New Orleans/Houston tier just below.
What have the Mavericks as a franchise failed to do for him, other than shoving Dirk aside and making him the #1 option? He's not that good. They've coddled and made excuses for him laying down on the job for a good 10 months now. He gets paid millions to care.
Trade J-Ho to New Jersey for Devin Harris....
DD
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