Official UFC 92 Fight Thread!!

[LEONARD]

IT was basically an independant statement, but it is also relevant to the post because Wandy will look more cut because he is the naturally smaller fighter cutting less weight.

Huh? Cutting less weight makes you look more cut than a guy cutting big weight?

Still confused...

They were talking about him dropping to 185 if he lost to Jardine, Even Wandy was talking about it.. Page would have drain himself to death to make that weight.. They both look great though and ready to go..

Wandy should be at MW...I'm concerned that he cut nothing for this fight...

[dbreiden83080]

Huh? Cutting less weight makes you look more cut than a guy cutting big weight?

Still confused...

Depends on the body type and your shape coming into camp, but in most cases yes that is the case.. Also depends on how Dehydrated you are when you hit the scales. Page went right for the water after he weighed in..

[dbreiden83080]

Wandy should be at MW...I'm concerned that he cut nothing for this fight...

He is one of the few 205 ers that basically walks around at that weight

[LEONARD]

Depends on the body type and your shape coming into camp, but in most cases yes that is the case..

Your shape coming into camp 10 weeks before a fight has an impact on how cut you look at weigh-ins??

Also depends on how Dehydrated you are when you hit the scales. Page went right for the water after he weighed in..

Exactly...so shouldn't Rampage look more cut than a guy that's not really cutting weight??

[dbreiden83080]

Your shape coming into camp 10 weeks before a fight has an impact on how cut you look at weigh-ins??

If you start really out of shape, of course it can. Take a look at Page when he fought Forrest compared to when he fought Henderson and Chuck. He got really fat in between TUF and the Forrest fight, and he didn't physically look nearly as good.


"Exactly...so shouldn't Rampage look more cut than a guy that's not really cutting weight??"

Not when he's naturally walking around cut and at that weight no.. Pacquio moved up in weight and looked more cut than Oscar coming down..

[LEONARD]

*sigh*

sorry dude, but IN GENERAL a guy that cuts a load of water weight is going to look more "cut" at weigh-ins than a guy that doesn't have to cut water to make weight. So yea, basically the opposite of what you're saying...

Wanderlei doesn't walk around dehydrated every day...he's in shape and he's cut, but he's not drained of water...he could look even more defined if he needed to cut a lot of water.

Cliff Notes...cutting water makes you look more cut.

Somebody else please chime in and tell me that I'm making some sense here...feels like the Twilight Zone...

[djohn14]

Why, that didn't phase PAGE. He's a lot like Chuck in that none of that stuff matters to him, it's all about getting in the cage and getting it on. I don't believe Page is scared of Wandy or anybody. He may lose but he's ready..

No, im not saying it phased Rampage. Its just sometimes I forget how intense Wandy is. He isnt lying when he says he wants to kill him. As of right now Im picking Rampage...hoping he converts back to his old self...or not because his old self couldnt beat Wandy.

[dbreiden83080]

*sigh*

sorry dude, but IN GENERAL a guy that cuts a load of water weight is going to look more "cut" at weigh-ins than a guy that doesn't have to cut water to make weight. So yea, basically the opposite of what you're saying...

Wanderlei doesn't walk around dehydrated every day...he's in shape and he's cut, but he's not drained of water...he could look even more defined if he needed to cut a lot of water.

Somebody else please chime in and tell me that I'm making some sense here...feels liks the Twilight Zone...

First of all i don't think Wandy looks vastly more cut than Page, he looks a little more cut thanks mainly to his body type being smaller.. And there is a difference between looking thin and looking cut. One can dehydrate himself and if they killed themself to do it, look like total at the weigh in. One can drain a little water and come in healtheir looking and very cut, like Wandy. Oscar and Manny, who looked better vs who cut more weight?? The story of that fight tells that story as did the visual evidence..

[LEONARD]

I never said that Wandy looks more cut that Rampage actually...

Who said anything about looking "thin" vs looking cut?

You're trying to make points with statements that are unrelated to the discussion, which is frustrating...so I'm done with this. Are you Mr Dio by chance?

[ATRAIN]

man whats up with all this fighting with each other as of late. Like john said I love you guys hahahah. We need to hug it out!!

[LEONARD]

Who's fighting?

[Evan]

Fight of the night predictions anyone?

Page Vs Wanderlei

[Evan]

Who's fighting?

Are you that far out of the loop?

Main card

Light Heavyweight Championship bout: Forrest Griffin vs. Rashad Evans
Heavyweight Championship bout: Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Frank Mir
Light Heavyweight bout: Quinton Jackson vs. Wanderlei Silva
Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs. Mike Massenzio
Heavyweight bout: Cheick Kongo vs. Mustafa Al Turk

Preliminary card

Middleweight bout: Yushin Okami vs. Dean Lister
Heavyweight bout: Antoni Hardonk vs. Mark Burch
Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Reese Andy
Welterweight bout: Brad Blackburn vs. Ryo Chonan
Heavyweight bout: Dan Evensen vs. Pat Barry

[ATRAIN]

Fight of the night predictions anyone?

Page Vs Wanderlei

After the weigh ins I say so. This is the fight im looking foward to the most!!

[dbreiden83080]

I never said that Wandy looks more cut that Rampage actually...

Who said anything about looking "thin" vs looking cut?

You're trying to make points with statements that are unrelated to the discussion, which is frustrating...so I'm done with this. Are you Mr Dio by chance?

Okay let me just clarify my point. I am talking about all the factors not just one or even 2. Much of this is about body proportion, muscle mass vs body fat. Chuck is the best example i can give you of this. He has a gut, always will have one, it's not going away. Someone could bulk up from 185, having eaten a whole meal and drank 18 gallons of water before the weigh ins, just to make the weight and they are still likely to look more cut than Chuck. Who has to cut weight because he easily could be fighting at heavyweight. He is less cut than everyone in the division basically.. With his body type, that's about as good as he looks at 205. Forrest very skinny frame, will never look bulky at 205.. I was never trying to say it's only about how dehydrated you are before you hit the scales.. My point to Page and
Wandy was also about not just cutting weight or being dehydrated it was also about body type and proportions. If i didn't clarify that properly than that was my bad and i apologize..

[ATRAIN]

Okay let me just clarify my point. I am talking about all the factors not just one or even 2. Much of this is about body proportion, muscle mass vs body fat. Chuck is the best example i can give you of this. He has a gut, always will have one, it's not going away. Someone could bulk up from 185, having eaten a whole meal and drank 18 gallons of water before the weigh ins, just to make the weight and they are still likely to look more cut than Chuck. Who has to cut weight because he easily could be fighting at heavyweight. He is less cut than everyone in the division basically.. With his body type, that's about as good as he looks at 205. Forrest very skinny frame, will never look bulky at 205.. I was never trying to say it's only about how dehydrated you are before you hit the scales.. My point to Page and
Wandy was also about not just cutting weight or being dehydrated it was also about body type and proportions. If i didn't clarify that properly than that was my bad and i apologize..

So you calling Chuck fat? :P

[dbreiden83080]

man whats up with all this fighting with each other as of late. Like john said I love you guys hahahah. We need to hug it out!!

Nobody's fighiting just debating and clarifying. If everyone always agrees on everything, this place will be as dead and boring as Kings-Talk..

[dbreiden83080]

So you calling Chuck fat? :P

Society did that for me..

[LEONARD]

Okay let me just clarify my point. I am talking about all the factors not just one or even 2. Much of this is about body proportion, muscle mass vs body fat. Chuck is the best example i can give you of this. He has a gut, always will have one, it's not going away. Someone could bulk up from 185, having eaten a whole meal and drank 18 gallons of water before the weigh ins, just to make the weight and they are still likely to look more cut than Chuck. Who has to cut weight because he easily could be fighting at heavyweight. He is less cut than everyone in the division basically.. With his body type, that's about as good as he looks at 205. Forrest very skinny frame, will never look bulky at 205.. I was never trying to say it's only about how dehydrated you are before you hit the scales.. My point to Page and
Wandy was also about not just cutting weight or being dehydrated it was also about body type and proportions. If i didn't clarify that properly than that was my bad and i apologize..

Yea...it all makes perfect sense now...thanks!!

[ATRAIN]

Nobody's fighiting just debating and clarifying. If everyone always agrees on everything, this place will be as dead and boring as Kings-Talk..

Ok good I would really hate to start whooping ass around here and proving that im the only alpha male around here.

[ATRAIN]

Society did that for me..

If I ever run into chuck ill let him know you said that hahaha.

[djohn14]

man whats up with all this fighting with each other as of late. Like john said I love you guys hahahah. We need to hug it out!!

The man is right!

[dbreiden83080]

Ok good I would really hate to start whooping ass around here and proving that im the only alpha male around here.

Dude you must need an army of security guards when you go out drinking..

[dbreiden83080]

If I ever run into chuck ill let him know you said that hahaha.

Right along with all those that wanna tell Brock about his Penis Tatoo..

[ATRAIN]

Dude you must need an army of security guards when you go out drinking..

LOL im a nice drunk, however my fuse can be lit especially if one of my friends is threatened. I try not to resort to violence but I wont back down from a fight.