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    If that alien believes that Jesus died on the cross for his sins why not.
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    If that alien believes that Jesus died on the cross for his sins why not.
    if 101A is right, then that alien better know Greek

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    Because life isn't all about getting to Heaven.
    ehhhhhhhhh......

    the preacher at [insert church here] tells me every Sunday it is while passing the plate around.

    Thing is, if the fine print is susceptible to scrutiny, then the entire Bible is.

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    spinning off the other thread, which of these do you believe in?

    1. God(s)
    2. magic (not from God or copperfield)
    3. ghosts
    4. aliens
    5. reincarnation
    6. government conspiracies i.e. 9/11, Illuminati, etc
    7. karma
    1. no
    2. no
    3. yes
    4. yes; but not bug-eyed Roswell abduction mythology, etc.
    5. no; but my mind is open to the possibility because I like the idea
    6. hmmm... I can't think of any specific conspiracy theories that I believe, but I think it's naive to assume that the government is completely free of secrets and sneaky associations
    7. short answer no, with a but; long answer yes, with an if -- I believe in the power of positive thought and positive energy, but because I think that people who are positive are more likely to see/feel the good in their lives, rather than because I think there is some supernatural force paying attention to whether or not I smiled at an old lady

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    1. no
    2. no
    3. yes
    4. yes; but not bug-eyed Roswell abduction mythology, etc.
    5. no; but my mind is open to the possibility because I like the idea
    6. hmmm... I can't think of any specific conspiracy theories that I believe, but I think it's naive to assume that the government is completely free of secrets and sneaky associations
    7. short answer no, with a but; long answer yes, with an if -- I believe in the power of positive thought and positive energy, but because I think that people who are positive are more likely to see/feel the good in their lives, rather than because I think there is some supernatural force paying attention to whether or not I smiled at an old lady
    ok, so no God and no magic, but there is some supernatural force that runs the karma system, and I'm guessing also has something to do with the ghosts you believe exist?

    Interesting.......so do you believe our souls were created by this same force?

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    1. God(s)- I believe in there being a higher power in the universe. Possibly the Universe itself. I do not believe in any Christian/Islamic/Judaical description of God.

    2. magic (not from God or copperfield)- No

    3. ghost- Jury's out, but I'm inclined to think the paranormal does probably exist.

    4. aliens- Yes. That visit earth? No.

    5. reincarnation- I hope not, or I better start taking Karma a lot more seriously.

    6. government conspiracies i.e. 9/11, Illuminati, etc- Yes. Though I don't think 9/11 masterminded by America, I do believe Bush knew and allowed it to happen on purpose. And I'm starting to believe that the NWO is being put in place as of right now.

    7. karma- Only insomuch that if I believed in re-incarnation, I would believe in Karma's effects upon it. But not one bit in terms of it affecting me in this lifetime. In fact, I hate when people propagate Karma as an influence in their daily lives.

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    When you are dead, you are dead. Lights out. The end.

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    WTF is that supposed to mean?

    if 101A is right, then that alien better know Greek
    Jesus will be able to communicate with the alien in the Jesus way...whatever that is.



    That was a ridiculous reply. Sorry.

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    WTF is that supposed to mean?
    To be honest, something about the name ashbeeigh just screams Angel Luv to me. I don't know why, but I've always thought so and when I read your posts I always momentarily mix you two up for a few milliseconds.

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    To be honest, something about the name ashbeeigh just screams Angel Luv to me. I don't know why, but I've always thought so and when I read your posts I always momentarily mix you two up for a few milliseconds.

    It's not a big deal. We're both God people and we post about what's going on in our lives here. Neither of us talk about our sexual exploits, or lack there of here, like some people do. I can understand it. We each get our fair about of . I usually fight back, though.

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    ok, so no God and no magic, but there is some supernatural force that runs the karma system, and I'm guessing also has something to do with the ghosts you believe exist?

    Interesting.......so do you believe our souls were created by this same force?
    I specifically said I didn't believe in a supernatural karma system.

    And I do believe in ghosts, I have been in situations in which I've felt a ghostly presence, but I don't know that I necessarily believe that it is a supernatural belief. It could be a soul that didn't make it into heaven, or , or wherever we go, but it could also be purely metaphysical -- an energy or life force that was left behind.

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    i believe in myself... that's it.

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    Jesus will be able to communicate with the alien in the Jesus way...whatever that is.



    That was a ridiculous reply. Sorry.
    my point was not meant for the alien visitors to our planet.........I'm talking about the other planet. What about all of those aliens?

    Are they eternally doomed because they can't get the Bible over there? Or are they like the primitives in the Australian outback that can't read or write?

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    I specifically said I didn't believe in a supernatural karma system.

    And I do believe in ghosts, I have been in situations in which I've felt a ghostly presence, but I don't know that I necessarily believe that it is a supernatural belief. It could be a soul that didn't make it into heaven, or , or wherever we go, but it could also be purely metaphysical -- an energy or life force that was left behind.
    oh ok......since you said "no" to believing in God, I was just wondering where this focused energy came from in which we are able to have a 'soul'.

    I'm also wondering how heaven and might exist for you......but no God.....

    not trying to argue......just trying to get it.

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    I wish.

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    my point was not meant for the alien visitors to our planet.........I'm talking about the other planet. What about all of those aliens?

    Are they eternally doomed because they can't get the Bible over there? Or are they like the primitives in the Australian outback that can't read or write?
    Well, a good Christian alien would bring a copy of the Bible he found on Earth and bring it to his home planet and begin to translate it into his own language. While doing that he would spread the Gospel through his language.

    Are they doomed because of ignorance? I myself do not believe so, they'll go to wherever their alien beliefs take them (whether its reincarnation or just death) until this new Christian alien comes along to tell them about this wonderful place called heaven.

    And then, I know you'll bring up the explorers and the inquisition, etc. Who knows. This is my hypothetical little alien world.

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    oh ok......since you said "no" to believing in God, I was just wondering where this focused energy came from in which we are able to have a 'soul'.

    I'm also wondering how heaven and might exist for you......but no God.....

    not trying to argue......just trying to get it.
    I put myself squarely in the category of spiritual, but unconvinced. I don't believe in a specific god (or gods) because I haven't seen enough evidence to believe that one exists, not because I'm 100% convinced that one does not. There's no doubt in my mind that there are things in this universe for which science has absolutely no explanation, I just haven't found any other explanations that seem plausible, either.

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    I put myself squarely in the category of spiritual, but unconvinced. I don't believe in a specific god (or gods) because I haven't seen enough evidence to believe that one exists, not because I'm 100% convinced that one does not. There's no doubt in my mind that there are things in this universe for which science has absolutely no explanation, I just haven't found any other explanations that seem plausible, either.
    So you are not convinced of your own spirituality?

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    So you are not convinced of your own spirituality?
    I'm not convinced that my spirituality translates to the actual, tangible existence of a specific god or myth structure.

    I have always felt that spirituality, in general, is the result of early humans living in a world far more advanced than their understanding. At the very core of most religions, no matter how big or small, you can somewhat see the gears turning -- you can see how so many of the myths within these religions seem to address the same few unanswerable questions about who we are, why we're here, and how this planet works.

    For me, most of these questions have now been answered by science, which makes it difficult for me to really believe any of the religious explanations for the questions that haven't been answered. Ultimately, I'm spiritual enough to accept that science may not ever explain everything, and I'm spiritual enough to admit that I like certain beliefs (reincarnation and karma, for instance, sound kind of nifty to me), but I'm just too logic minded to jump in feet first and believe that they're possible.

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    I'm not convinced that my spirituality translates to the actual, tangible existence of a specific god or myth structure.

    I have always felt that spirituality, in general, is the result of early humans living in a world far more advanced than their understanding. At the very core of most religions, no matter how big or small, you can somewhat see the gears turning -- you can see how so many of the myths within these religions seem to address the same few unanswerable questions about who we are, why we're here, and how this planet works.

    For me, most of these questions have now been answered by science, which makes it difficult for me to really believe any of the religious explanations for the questions that haven't been answered. Ultimately, I'm spiritual enough to accept that science may not ever explain everything, and I'm spiritual enough to admit that I like certain beliefs (reincarnation and karma, for instance, sound kind of nifty to me), but I'm just too logic minded to jump in feet first and believe that they're possible.
    I can understand that. Well said. I just know some who become very spiritual when it suits them.....like when they need help.

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    spinning off the other thread, which of these do you believe in?

    1. God(s)
    2. magic (not from God or copperfield)
    3. ghosts
    4. aliens
    5. reincarnation
    6. government conspiracies i.e. 9/11, Illuminati, etc
    7. karma
    1. Yes
    2. Yes
    3. Yes
    4. Yes
    5. No
    6. Maybe
    7. Yes
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    I find it funny that Angel Luv bases almost all her posts on Bible quotes. Out of all the things available to substantiate Jesus and Christianity she chooses to quote the one item that was manipulated the most.
    My question would be at what point in her faith does it become enough a part of her that she can explain what she believes in her own words, as opposed to quoting words written by someone else. This thread is an inquiry as to what each person believes, and I would expect an answer more personal, whereby some people are willing to examine themselves and to express their personal beliefs in their own statements. In some ways simply quoting scripture is a cop-out because the person is "hiding" behind some statements that he or she believes can not be challenged. To express yourself in your own way and in your own words requires a willingness to put yourself out there and have your notions and ideas examined and possibly critiqued by others. Sorry, but I do not admire it as some have posted because I think it is lazy contemplation not even to attempt your own expression of faith.

    As to the original questions--
    Yes- to God and ghosts (if by ghosts you mean spirits and not Caspar)

    Yes- to the potential for governmental conspiracies, although not those specific ones

    Yes- to karma, as in life is a circle and what goes around comes around

    No to real magic (not tricks); no to reincarnation; and a big I don't know to intelligent life forms on other planets

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    Well, a good Christian alien would bring a copy of the Bible he found on Earth and bring it to his home planet and begin to translate it into his own language. While doing that he would spread the Gospel through his language.

    Are they doomed because of ignorance? I myself do not believe so, they'll go to wherever their alien beliefs take them (whether its reincarnation or just death) until this new Christian alien comes along to tell them about this wonderful place called heaven.

    And then, I know you'll bring up the explorers and the inquisition, etc. Who knows. This is my hypothetical little alien world.
    if they are not doomed because of ignorance, then they were better off not knowing, weren't they......

    if it were me, I'd beat the crap out of the alien that came back to my planet and "enlightened" me.

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    1. Yes
    2. Yes
    3. Yes
    4. Yes
    5. No
    6. No
    7. No

    I still wonder what people who believe in God and aliens feel what God's plan for aliens is......

    anyone recall the old Star Trek episode where the Enterprise was trapped by Apollo?

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    I still wonder what people who believe in God and aliens feel what God's plan for aliens is......

    anyone recall the old Star Trek episode where the Enterprise was trapped by Apollo?
    As far as aliens go, I don't think sentient beings or humanoid life forms exist that are advanced enough to have thought and emotional systems such as we do or the ability to believe and conceive of higher powers, if they do then shiiieeet. But life as in microscopic organisms or simple ones outside of Earth I think do exist. Ghosts, I am assuming souls, I think exist. Magic depending on the definition is a yes for me, if the definition is a deception to show somebody something contrary to reality then yes, if it is Harry Potter stuff then no. I would also change Karma from no to yes, I think what you do (not little things) eventually comes back to you in one way or another. Also change government conspiracies to a maybe.....you never know. LOL

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