Is there a God?

[angel_luv]

no thanks. Honestly, I've probably read the Bible more than you.

I's rather have your opinion.

My opinion is that you need Jesus.

[MiamiHeat]

I giggle every time you do this. We should serious start a fresh church and take donations in the name of Osiris

we'd certainly have slightly better ground to stand on than christianity. pre-date

[Blake]

Jesus did say to go into the whole world and preach the Gospel.

For me witnessing goes beyond a directive I am obeying, it is a privilige to be able to tell as many people as I can about Jesus.
I embrace the opportunity.

right. But seeing how it is impossible to reach the whole world, I ask again for the what 21st time?

Are the primitives saved if they never hear the Gospel of Jesus but can still find whatever form of God they find in nature as you suggest?

[Blake]

My opinion is that you need Jesus.

Not if I'm a Jewish wolf boy

Of course, now that you told me about Jesus, I'm doomed if I don't accept him.........Thanks for dooming me.

I was so much better off not knowing.

[MiamiHeat]

right. But seeing how it is impossible to reach the whole world, I ask again for the what 21st time?

Are the primitives saved if they never hear the Gospel of Jesus but can still find whatever form of God they find in nature as you suggest?

no. they are not saved. they go to and their 'spirit', that has no pain receptors, gets burned in flames and tortured for eternity.


"Worship that? Never!"

[DarkReign]

the summarization of your idiotic bull rant : "religion is harmless, who cares guyz, come on letz get along!"

THAT is 'patently false'

THAT isn't a debate.

What you say is true.

Hundreds of ing years ago.

Sorry MH, the Renaissance happened before we were alive. Church rule will never happen again, as much as you have faith that it might.

[angel_luv]

right. But seeing how it is impossible to reach the whole world, I ask again for the what 21st time?

Are the primitives saved if they never hear the Gospel of Jesus but can still find whatever form of God they find in nature as you suggest?

Funny how you seem to be assuming that the God who created the whole universe is incapable of directly revealing Himself to primitives as need be.

[MiamiHeat]

really, angel_luv hasn't even come to grips with the conflicting problems in the bible, or the illogical behavior of her god, or the inconsistencies and contradictions in the bible.

nevermind trying to show her the origin of the religion

[MiamiHeat]

What you say is true.

Hundreds of ing years ago.

Sorry MH, the Renaissance happened before we were alive. Church rule will never happen again, as much as you have faith that it might.

stem-cell research

Israel currently at war

9/11

sexual marriage

etc..

all of it. religion.

[angel_luv]

Not if I'm a Jewish wolf boy

Of course, now that you told me about Jesus, I'm doomed if I don't accept him.........Thanks for dooming me.

I was so much better off not knowing.

You've already read the Bible, quite a bit- apparently.

I think God allowed our paths cross so I could encourage you in what God's already made known to you through His Word.

[MiamiHeat]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle2368534.ece

September 2, 2007
Religion causes harm, says poll

NEARLY half the British think that religion is harmful, according to a poll carried out by YouGov. Yet more than half also believe in God “or something”.

The YouGov poll commissioned by John Humphrys, the broadcaster and writer, found that 42% of the 2,200 people taking part considered religion had a harmful effect.

“One reason might be the publicity attracted by a handful of mad mullahs and their hate-filled rhetoric,” writes Humphrys in his new book, In God We Doubt, an extract of which appears in today’s Sunday Times News Review.

Only 16% of those polled called themselves atheists; 28% believed in God; 26% believed in “something” but were not sure what; and 9% regarded themselves as agnostics - like Humphrys himself, who had a religious upbringing in Wales but calls himself a “doubter”.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle2368534.ece

[CuckingFunt]

I think God allowed our paths cross so I could encourage you in what God's already made known to you through His Word.

I think it's bat crazy to assume that, if there's a god, he/she/it is paying even casual attention to what any one of us is doing on a message board.

[Phenomanul]

Bull . My God did not say those things. This is what God really said :

"I am Osiris Onnophris who is found perfect before the Gods. I hath said: These are the elements of my Body perfected through suffering, glorified through trial. The scent of the dying Rose is as the repressed sigh of my Suffering. And the flame-red Fire as the energy of mine undaunted Will. And the Cup of Wine is the pouring out of the blood of my heart, sacrificed unto Regeneration, unto the newer life. And the bread and salt are as the foundations of my body, which I destroy in order that they may be renewed.

For I am Osiris Triumphant. Even Osiris Onnophris the Justified One. I am He who is clothed with the body of flesh yet in whom flames the spirit of the eternal Gods. I am the Lord of Life."

You realize how many anachronistic statements are found within these paragraphs alone?

This structural incoherency points to the fact that whomever is writing the content of your Christ-myther sites is not properly conducting their homework. The strained nature of their parallelisms is so 'forced' that it literally shouts, 'fabrication'.

Furthermore, it's no surprise that the hieroglyphics on the site you posted don't conform to the standard translations found on several crytography manuals. Really, ES completely debunked and shattered the historical accuracy of your sources. I don't even know why you continue to post their intentionally misleading, agenda-driven, lies.... oh wait....

Those sites just serve to counterproductively boost the unbelief of people such as yourself who already have an axe to grind against believers. The fact that you have suc bed to their lies, however, does little to counter the historical existence of Jesus. Other, far more brilliant men have tried and failed. What makes you any smarter? Even Einstein came to the conclusion that GOD existed (even if it wasn't the Christian/Judeo GOD).

[MiamiHeat]

You've already read the Bible, quite a bit- apparently.

I think God allowed our paths cross so I could encourage you in what God's already made known to you through His Word.

Incorrect. It is He who Created All Things, Amun-Ra, that made -our- paths cross. I am here to help you, my sister. Please, do not turn away from the Truth and the Life.

He loves you.

[DarkReign]

You know, I was reading about the Enlightenment period and stumbled upon a pretty good assertion.

Islam has inherent advantaged over Christianity from its youth alone. Islam is not old enough to have ever claimed the formation of Earth and the universe, hasnt been around as long to suppress scientific advancement to only later concede its finer points and provable facts.

Islam only deals in the items of existence which are not provable, thus rendering it unassailable by reasoned minds.

Obviously, I have never read the Quran so I cant say with absolutism that this is true, but if the Quran makes no such claims of creation, I would find this idea intriguing.

[baseline bum]

stfu



you're the graham harrell of trolls. You think you deserve to be in the talks for the troll trophy, but nobody even wants you at the ceremony.

[angel_luv]

I think it's bat crazy to assume that, if there's a god, he/she/it is paying even casual attention to what any one of us is doing on a message board.

I believe God, like any good Father, is happy to be included in all I am doing.
I believe that Jesus thoroughly enjoys my company.

The crazy I am is crazy blessed, which makes me crazy joyful.

[MiamiHeat]

You realize how many anachronistic statements are found within these paragraphs alone?

This structural incoherency points to the fact that whomever is writing the content of your Christ-myther sites is not properly conducting their homework. The strained nature of their parallelisms is so 'forced' that it literally shouts, 'fabrication'.

It is Divinely Inspired work. It is the Invocation of Osiris. How else are we to receive His holy teachings? We write it through the Divine Inspiration of Him.

I have faith that this is true.

[Blake]

Funny how you seem to be assuming that the God who created the whole universe is incapable of directly revealing Himself to primitives as need be.

I think it's funny that the God who created the whole universe seems to have 100 different religions and several different books and many different ways to read "His Word" to fit whatever agenda one might have.

[MiamiHeat]

Invocation of Osiris

"And the Cup of Wine is the pouring out of the blood of my heart, sacrificed unto Regeneration, unto the newer life. And the bread and salt are as the foundations of my body, which I destroy in order that they may be renewed."

It is you BLASPHEMER Christian heathens who have corrupted and stolen the practice and words of Him. The Truth and The Life, Osiris-Re. The pouring of Wine is -His- blood and the Bread is -His- body.

Only through His wisdom can we live the right way. So that He may judge us favorably after we pass from the earth.

[baseline bum]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ign-nationwide

nice

[Heath Ledger]

Don't forget to put your money in the offering basket. Can you really afford not to? wink wink.

[Blake]

You know, I was reading about the Enlightenment period and stumbled upon a pretty good assertion.

Islam has inherent advantaged over Christianity from its youth alone. Islam is not old enough to have ever claimed the formation of Earth and the universe, hasnt been around as long to suppress scientific advancement to only later concede its finer points and provable facts.

Islam only deals in the items of existence which are not provable, thus rendering it unassailable by reasoned minds.

Obviously, I have never read the Quran so I cant say with absolutism that this is true, but if the Quran makes no such claims of creation, I would find this idea intriguing.

The Quran talks about God creating the Earth in 6 days and then heading back to the throne.

The Bible says "God rested on the 7th day" which is odd for an all powerful being, don't you think?


this is a great read about Zoroastrianism.......which of all places the source is from a Jewish encyclopedia:

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/vi...search=zoroast

"Most scholars, Jewish as well as non-Jewish, are of the opinion that Judaism was strongly influenced by Zoroastrianism in views relating to angelology and demonology, and probably also in the doctrine of the resurrection, as well as in eschatological ideas in general, and also that the monotheistic conception of Yhwh may have been quickened and strengthened by being opposed to the dualism or quasi-monotheism of the Persians."

[BacktoBasics]

You realize how many anachronistic statements are found within these paragraphs alone?

This structural incoherency points to the fact that whomever is writing the content of your Christ-myther sites is not properly conducting their homework. The strained nature of their parallelisms is so 'forced' that it literally shouts, 'fabrication'.

Osiris did this to test my faith. The faith of his followers. To truely be blessed one requires only faith regardless of what other religions correlate to Osiris or don't.

[Phenomanul]

so is believing in Jesus resurrection necessary for salvation? Yes or no?

I believe it is.

I fail to see how his question shows a lack of reading comprehension.

His assumption that 'wolfboy' would go to based on my previous response was unbased. (i.e. why I called him out on comprehension in the first place). I made no such asserstion. I said, "I honestly don't know - maybe they'll get a second chance during Jesus' Millenial reign".

I'm fully aware that your particular scenario is 'gray enough' to be different.

The answer could be:

1) It doesn't matter that they didn't hear of Jesus. They should have come to genuine repentance of their sins while in their search for GOD, who made Himself clearly evident in Creation.

2) Christ will give them a chance to accept him as their King during His millenial reign on earth.

Again, I don't know for certain.