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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    That's the homer in you speaking. I gladly admit that he is the best right now, but he was nowhere this good even a couple of months ago. He has everything under control now, pure greatness.
    He'll win the MVP this year, and it should be his third, not his first.

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    He'll win the MVP this year, and it should be his third, not his first.
    It's a good thing you don't have any say in voting or really anything that resembles anything judiciary in the NBA.

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    If the Cavs meet the Lakers in the Finals, that can be decided.

    Kobe sucked at the beginning of the season when he took too much of a backseat. But for the past month, Kobe's been playing like the MVP.

    LeBron was better the first month and a half of the season, but right now, Kobe's playing better in my opinion.

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    If the Cavs meet the Lakers in the Finals, that can be decided.

    Kobe sucked at the beginning of the season when he took too much of a backseat. But for the past month, Kobe's been playing like the MVP.

    LeBron was better the first month and a half of the season, but right now, Kobe's playing better in my opinion.
    Kobe would've folded tonight. And your opinion is anyways, since you think Odom is a good player

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    I put him as 1a. and Kobe 1b.

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    I don't disagree that LeBron is the best player in the league right now. I already felt that way at the start of the season.

    But I question the timing of this thread to make the point. LeBron just played great against a team that had lost 6 of its last 8 games whose defense has been horrible in that stretch. Also, Kobe and the Lakers beat the same Boston team when the Celtics were on that ridiculous win streak. Seems like a little overreaction to this one game at this point.

    And, it also comes on a night where Kobe drops 36 points, 13 assists, and 7 rebounds in his own right against a Pacers team that actually has been playing better than the Celtics recently. Kobe's been on a tear for the last month or so himself.

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    I don't disagree that LeBron is the best player in the league right now. I already felt that way at the start of the season.

    But I question the timing of this thread to make the point. LeBron just played great against a team that had lost 6 of its last 8 games whose defense has been horrible in that stretch.

    And, it also comes on a night where Kobe drops 36 points, 13 assists, and 7 rebounds in his own right against a Pacers team that actually has been playing better than the Celtics recently.
    Not to mention he usual clutch scoring down the stretch when every point was needed.

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    He'll win the MVP this year, and it should be his third, not his first.
    He has as many MVPs as he deserves, and he'll have as many as he deservers after this season too.

    Nash's 2006 was ridicolous, but Wade, Dirk, Kobe had better seasons that year. The other MVPs have been legit.

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    If the Cavs meet the Lakers in the Finals, that can be decided.

    Kobe sucked at the beginning of the season when he took too much of a backseat. But for the past month, Kobe's been playing like the MVP.

    LeBron was better the first month and a half of the season, but right now, Kobe's playing better in my opinion.
    That can only decide what team is better, and is clear that the lakers are a much better team than the Cavs

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    That can only decide what team is better, and is clear that the lakers are a much better team than the Cavs
    It is??? Were you saying the same thing before the Finals last year?

    The Cavs play amazing defense, and have a team discipline that is hardly matched by anyone else. Those guys might not be the biggest stars, but they cover for LeBron every inch of the way.

    To me the Cavs are easily the best team in the league right now.

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    I don't disagree that LeBron is the best player in the league right now. I already felt that way at the start of the season.

    But I question the timing of this thread to make the point. LeBron just played great against a team that had lost 6 of its last 8 games whose defense has been horrible in that stretch. Also, Kobe and the Lakers beat the same Boston team when the Celtics were on that ridiculous win streak. Seems like a little overreaction to this one game at this point.

    And, it also comes on a night where Kobe drops 36 points, 13 assists, and 7 rebounds in his own right against a Pacers team that actually has been playing better than the Celtics recently. Kobe's been on a tear for the last month or so himself.
    Kobe coulda scored 81 again for all I care, what Lebron's been doing this season is unbealiveable, and as sick as his numbers are they don't make justice to how much of an impact lebron is in a BB court, he's involved in every single play (offensively and defensively)
    Last edited by DAF86; 01-10-2009 at 01:58 AM.

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    This may all sound good, but guess who Lebron and every other player in the league will tell you who the best is??? Yup, you guessed it. THE MAMBA.
    LeBron kills Kobe with kindness.

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    This may all sound good, but guess who Lebron and every other player in the league will tell you who the best is??? Yup, you guessed it. THE MAMBA.

    Where was the greatest player and what was he doing in the clutch moments of the olympics. Watching Kobe silence the crown.
    So you want LeBron to say he is the best? That would look kind of stupid don't you think.

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    It's a good thing you don't have any say in voting or really anything that resembles anything judiciary in the NBA.
    It's a good thing for you, because Kobe would win all the awards he actually deserves.

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    It is??? Were you saying the same thing before the Finals last year?

    The Cavs play amazing defense, and have a team discipline that is hardly matched by anyone else. Those guys might not be the biggest stars, but they cover for LeBron every inch of the way.

    To me the Cavs are easily the best team in the league right now.
    What!? I wasn't saying anything last year. But if somebody woulda asked me, I'd have defenetily said that the Lakers are a better team than the Cavs.

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    Kobe coulda scored 81 again for all I care, what Lebron's been doing this season is unbealiveable, and as sick as his numbers are they don't make justice to how much of an impact is lebron in a BB court, he's involved in every single play (offensively and defensively)
    Shows how unbiased you are

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    What!? I wasn't saying anything last year. But if somebody woulda asked me, I'd have defenetily said that the Lakers are a better team than the Cavs.
    I meant to say, were you one of the people who claimed the Lakers were better than the Celtics as well?

    People forget how important defense is, and the Cavs have plenty of it right now.
    As great as that Celtics defense was last year, LeBron came much closer than Kobe did to breaking it even with a worse team. Remember that.

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    Shows how unbiased you are
    And I say this even though I'm not a fan of him. I think he's a little bit pedantic sometimes and his style of play doesn't atract me, his jumper is ugly to look at and I don't like the fact that he can crab dribble his way to the hoop a lot of times without getting called.

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    I meant to say, were you one of the people who claimed the Lakers were better than the Celtics as well?

    People forget how important defense is, and the Cavs have plenty of it right now.
    As great as that Celtics defense was last year, LeBron came much closer than Kobe did to breaking it even with a worse team. Remember that.[/
    The Hawks too, so?

    Sometimes it's all about matchups.

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    NO, not stupid at all. Ive still yet to see Lebron do something that Kobe havent already done and is not doing now. At the end of the day, when you compare players and declare one the best, I question who has more in their bag. Who can give you more on their best night. Two seaons ago we wouldnt even be having this conversation because Kobe was torching the league, but since hes only averages 27 points a game people think hes being upstaged by overrated Lebron. By the way, Lebron is also only averaging 27 points a game, while Kobe has admitted that hes not even in 3rd gear yet.
    Kobe was player of the month for Dec. and so far player of Jan. Lets see how this turns out. Should be interesting.
    The last thing that impresses me about Lebron is his offense. Is for everything else in his game that I'm making this claim.

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    The last thing that impresses me about Lebron is his offense. Is for everything else in his game that I'm making this claim.
    This was the same LeBron that deferred to Kobe in the final minutes of the Olympics.

    This is what separates Kobe and LeBron, Kobe is still the best closer in the game.

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    This was the same LeBron that deferred to Kobe in the final minutes of the Olympics.

    This is what separates Kobe and LeBron, Kobe is still the best closer in the game.
    Yeah, he closes out the playoffs in spectacular fashion. If only it were spectacularly good. Again, if big performances at the end of FIBA games is the criteria, then Kobe's not even the best closer in the western conference.

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    Yeah, he closes out the playoffs in spectacular fashion. If only it were spectacularly good. Again, if big performances at the end of FIBA games is the criteria, then Kobe's not even the best closer in the western conference.
    Are you actually saying kobe is a chocker ala dirk?

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    Right now Kobe can't compete with Lebron's complete floor game. He's doing it at both ends consistently. It's not just this game tonight. It's been all season. The fact that he's been playing on a high level defensively and still putting up his usual offensive numbers is just too much to ignore. The kid is constantly hustling and no fast break layup for the opponent is safe these days.

    Kobe just hasn't brought it on the defensive end like Lebron this season. You get one or the other with Kobe but not both.

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    Lebron is playing as a PG in the offensive end and as a center in the defensive one, I've never seen anything like it.

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