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    I agree with you,Hill is more than a role player,but he has not enough time to show his talent.
    And I would like this.If it happens,it's wonderful.
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...9~24&te=&cash=
    That'll be OK too, but it won't happen either. Gortat is a rotation player in a contender team. The only way we can get him is by getting the Magic a rotation player in the position they need most, and that's a PG reserve. That's why I think a straight up Hill for Gortat trade will be very reasonable.

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    That'll be OK too, but it won't happen either. Gortat is a rotation player in a contender team. The only way we can get him is by getting the Magic a rotation player in the position they need most, and that's a PG reserve. That's why I think a straight up Hill for Gortat trade will be very reasonable.
    I just want POP to play Ian,even if he sucks.If he can't play,just trade!If Ian can play,that's good.If we have to lose Hill to get him,I think I will support this trade.

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    I just want POP to play Ian,even if he sucks.If he can't play,just trade!If Ian can play,that's good.If we have to lose Hill to get him,I think I will support this trade.
    When will Ian be ready to go?

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    When you come up with trades, try to make sense for both teams.

    Why would Orlando, hottest team in the league, give up a guy who is essentially their primary backup big? Answer: they won't. He's super-cheap, does a good job, and will improve seeing as he's a rookie. It makes no sense for Orlando.

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    If they want Hill then give it to them for Gortat.
    They can always run Mason or Manu at the point and that will also relieve the traffic at the 2 spot. Doubt that will happen though.
    Dude, WTF? Come on. That is absolute garbage. Dumbest thing I've seen you say on this board. We discover a youngster who can play both guard spots, defends hard, and could be anything, and you want to give him away for a reserve big? Pulease. Hill's floor is waaaaay above Gortat's ceiling.

    Next .

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    If they want Hill then give it to them for Gortat.
    They can always run Mason or Manu at the point and that will also relieve the traffic at the 2 spot. Doubt that will happen though.
    I just want POP to play Ian,even if he sucks.If he can't play,just trade!If Ian can play,that's good.If we have to lose Hill to get him,I think I will support this trade.
    You two need to check your heads - you've gone trade-crazy.

    Gortat is a serviceable big, but Hill will be a very good to excellent combo guard for the next decade.

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    When you come up with trades, try to make sense for both teams.

    Why would Orlando, hottest team in the league, give up a guy who is essentially their primary backup big? Answer: they won't. He's super-cheap, does a good job, and will improve seeing as he's a rookie. It makes no sense for Orlando.

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    Dude, WTF? Come on. That is absolute garbage. Dumbest thing I've seen you say on this board. We discover a youngster who can play both guard spots, defends hard, and could be anything, and you want to give him away for a reserve big? Pulease. Hill's floor is waaaaay above Gortat's ceiling.

    Next .
    Did you see Gortat play? He's very good. He will be more than a role player in the future. The Spurs need to set their priorities straight, there's no place for both Parker and Hill in the future, eventually one will go, and something tells me that one is George. I will trade a promising big man for a promising PG everyday of the week. Specially with our situation.

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    You two need to check your heads - you've gone trade-crazy.

    Gortat is a serviceable big, but Hill will be a very good to excellent combo guard for the next decade.
    Of course I know that hill has the talent like you said.But with Parker,he has no room to make progress.

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    Of course I know that hill has the talent like you said.But with Parker,he has no room to make progress.
    Do you know what this team would be like without him? Have you seen Jacque Vaughn?

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    Do you know what this team would be like without him? Have you seen Jacque Vaughn?
    Mason and Manu can play the point

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    Do you know what this team would be like without him? Have you seen Jacque Vaughn?
    We have Manu and Mason,as a matter of fact,Hill plays more like a SG than pg now.It doesn't mean I don't like Hill,I like him very much.The problem is that no man can help Tim,and we are lack of REBS.

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    George Hill for Marcin Gortat?

    WTF?

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    George Hill for Marcin Gortat?

    WTF?
    Yes, if you think about it. It's actully a pretty good trade.

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    Actually,I want to provide the right of signing Splitter if it works.

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    We can provide Jv and the right of signing Splitter or somebody,maybe it works

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    Yes, if you think about it. It's actully a pretty good trade.
    An unproven player with no offensive game and limited mobility on defense is not worth giving up Hill. Gortat has had some good games but this is the same guy who sucked in D-League and summer league and surprised his own team with his play. His stats look good on paper but you have to account for the fact that he's always on the court in small ball situations -- which inflates his rebounding and shot blocking stats. Put him on a regular team and his stats would plummet.

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    An unproven player with no offensive game and limited mobility on defense is not worth giving up Hill. Gortat has had some good games but this is the same guy who sucked in D-League and summer league and surprised his own team with his play. His stats look good on paper but you have to account for the fact that he's always on the court in small ball situations -- which inflates his rebounding and shot blocking stats. Put him on a regular team and his stats would plummet.
    How about this.
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...9~19&te=&cash=

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    Actually,I want to provide the right of signing Splitter if it works.
    But it won't. In fact if the Magic wasn't a contender this year I think they may not even want to make the "Hill for Gortat" trade. The only reason this trade is possible is because Anthony sucks too much ass.

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    But it won't. In fact if the Magic wasn't a contender this year I think they may not even want to make the "Hill for Gortat" trade. The only reason this trade is possible is because Anthony sucks too much ass.
    It's really hard to get a useful big man now.

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    An unproven player with no offensive game and limited mobility on defense is not worth giving up Hill. Gortat has had some good games but this is the same guy who sucked in D-League and summer league and surprised his own team with his play. His stats look good on paper but you have to account for the fact that he's always on the court in small ball situations -- which inflates his rebounding and shot blocking stats. Put him on a regular team and his stats would plummet.
    I've seen him play quite a bit this year. (more than any Spur player) and he isn't so unuseful in offense, he has a great touch around the basket, and the only two bigs that play in small ball situation are Howard or Battie, Gortat only plays when VG decides for a more convencional formation. But let's assume his numbers are inflated. He's still a 100 times better than any of the Spurs bigs besides Duncan. And let's not forget that while Parker is in this team (and I hope is for at least 8 more years) Hill won't get too much time in the court.

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    It's really hard to get a useful big man now.
    That's exactly why that trade wouldn't work.

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    George Hill for Marcin Gortat?

    WTF?
    Yeah made me sober up just reading it.

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    he has a great touch around the basket
    So great that he's sub-40% at the rim in his last ten games? He also hasn't made a shot outside the paint this season. I'm sure that'd be a great partner for Duncan

    Gortat only plays when VG decides for a more convencional formation.
    Fail. As of the last time 82games updated their player pairs, Gortat had played about 85% of his minutes in small ball lineups. And he hadn't even played with Howard at all this season. If he's too immobile to play next to Howard, how do you expect him to play next to Duncan?

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    So great that he's sub-40% at the rim in his last ten games? He also hasn't made a shot outside the paint this season. I'm sure that'd be a great partner for Duncan

    Fail. As of the last time 82games updated their player pairs, Gortat had played about 85% of his minutes in small ball lineups. And he hadn't even played with Howard at all this season. If he's too immobile to play next to Howard, how do you expect him to play next to Duncan?
    82games FTW!!!

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    hes better than oberto and crochere so im in.

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    NAME:Marcin Gortat
    TEAM:Orlando Magic
    Born: 1984-2-17
    Height: 6-11 / 2,11
    Weight: 240 lbs. / 108,9 kg.
    From: Poland
    Years Pro: 1
    He can get 3.4points and 4 rebounds in average 11.1 minutes,and he also can contribute 1.2 blocks pergame,he costs $0.71 millon,and his contract will be ended in 2009.I think his speed and REB will help us.Let's trade him if we can.
    By the way,I am chinese,it's my first time to post here,and my English is quite poor.I hope we can be friends.
    Your English is better than some of our other posters who are native citizens. Hint: In order to distinguish separate thoughts in sentences, you need to use periods instead of commas. Welcome.

    PS. I looked into teaching English in China a few years ago. How did you learn your second language?

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