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My Mother just pass away Monday. Your a real Gem to SpursTalk Kori must be proud to have you.
Then why not teach any of it?
get rid of that subject altogether. How is telling some kid he came from a fish going to help him get a job at wallmart?
Then I would love some of that you are smoking. If only we could get the meltdown crew like baseline Bum and his lap dog MiamiHeat to smoke some, we could all get along.I happen to believe in both evolution and God.
Was that before or after you met MannyIsGod? (I know low blow, but hey he never answers my PMs so him)My common sense says we look pretty similar to monkeys
No . have you seen what it takes to make a leaf? There is more DNA data than in all the wiring in the NASA space shuttle.and I am also with you in common sense says to me there is some kind of design.
How do you know if it never has a shot? you think Darwin was believed the first time he wrote a book? The truth is you can teach what ever you want in school it doesn't have to be true. why else do they talk about Jack and the bean stock and the three little pigs? If you allow the ID books in the schools for 10 years it will be fact not fiction in no time. As you can see how the Darwin books have brain washed baseline and others. You know for a fact kids don't care if its true they trust the schools so if its in the text books it must be true.Problem is that ID is not something that can stand up to the rigors of the scientific method.
I have no problem with Evolution just don't call it a science its more of a religion. And keep it out of my child's mind, and i will keep GOD out of your child's mind. But there is no fairness in the schools. If there was they would have never got rid of prayer in school. You can't pray to GOD but if your Muslim then it's ok? That's bias bull .
Like I said let the students decide not the parents.teachers, and courts.Evolution can. Therefore, one can be taught in science class, the other can't.
That's beacuse the ID people have ty lawers, put my ass in there and you will see results.This has been the end result in the court battles.
So they should just give up?7 day creationists have tried to get more and more creative, even changing the term to 'intelligent design' in order to slide it past.........but the outcome hasn't changed.
My Mother just pass away Monday. Your a real Gem to SpursTalk Kori must be proud to have you.
This message is hidden because mouse is on your ignore list.
Trust me I am the one who benefits from this not you.
I wonder what you did in school before you had ignore?
La la la la la I'm not listening!
The Atheist of this site have suffered a major blow having someone so immature like yourself in their corner. And to think I actually took some of your posts as something worthy of a reply. I rather argue with BuddyHolly about 1604.
Dam that some not even i would say when I am having a meltdown. You suck Baseline.
Sorry to hear about your mom Mouse, I lost mine last month also. I apologize for this Baseline person Kori should ban him at least a few days that is uncalled for.
This place is turning to when you can talk about having sex with your mother.
Don't worry mouse i will quote you so that ass wipe will have to put me on ignore also.
Trust me I am the one who benefits from this not you.
I wonder what you did in school before you had ignore?
La la la la la I'm not listening!
The Atheist of this site have suffered a major blow having someone so immature like yourself in their corner. And to think I actually took some of your posts as something worthy of a reply. I rather argue with BuddyHolly about 1604.
You're full of mouse. There's never a time you're not trolling on this forum. Your answer was pretty predictable.
Mouse Ignore him he is an ass! Sorry about your Mother.
Grow the up, like he knew.
EDITED: , fell for a mouse troll
Any 'scientific' claims made on the subject of origins are inherently not classifiable as science. When people understand that premise. This debate becomes rather irrelevant.
Secularist: We don't want ID taught in the classrooms. Keep GOD out of it - keep it to yourselves.
Me: Fine by me, just don't presume to know how it all began; none of it is testable, observable nor can we extrapolate outside of the existing naturalistic processes to make any conclusive statements about the original cosmic singularity that preceeded the birth of the universe, or the molecular birth of life. That is not science either, so keep those assumptions outside of the classroom as well. Besides, I'll probably end up homeschooling my children.
Secularist: You can't do that, brainwashing them will only breed more contempt from people like myself.
Me: You can't have it both ways, particularly because I'm forced into paying public school taxes even though my children don't attend. Hence, as long as I'm not breaking any laws - neither you nor the government has any sovereignty over what I teach my children. Besides, when did your camp develop the sudden interest in the development of others' children? That I know of, most of you all indescriminantly lobby in favor of the their murder at their most vulnerable stage of life. You may know of the practice, it's called abortion.
Secularist: Like I said, keep it to yourself. Don't infect your children with your beliefs.
Me: Seems like a hypocritical attack on my belief system. "Teach only what we want taught as truth, and keep your own beliefs to yourself (singular tense stressed)." What a 'progressive future' yours is.
I can only imagine what stalwart Christian Intelligent Design proponents Hegamboa's kids will be after a healthy 18 years of homeschooling by him.
He's like, "See son? These rocks? See? You can't really carbon date these rocks! It's flawed! See son? It's only 4000 years old!"
I'm fine with leaving questions about origins of the universe until people are old and mature enough to investigate those issues on their own, instead of being pushed by dogma as impressionable youth.
You presume too much. Typical.
The dogma goes both ways.
Don't tell me you're one of those people who tries to bring science down to the level of faith.
Talk about a broad stroke with the paintbrush....
Don't tell me you're one of those people who criticize absolutism but then employ it on others?
To answer your question:
When concerning the subject of origins, definitely.
Natural selection is not an explanation of the origin of life.
Exactly. /Thread.
really sad to see
2009 and science is still under attack by the fools who believe in boogiemen
let this be a lesson to you idealistic people who think religion 'hurts nobody'
(1) ... hahahahahahaha... sooooo scary.
(2) So you'd like me to synthesize thousands of papers and hundreds of textbooks for you in an ST thread? Get ed moron. Go do some reading, you might learn something.
(3) Evolution by natural selection is a theory which I've explained on ST, oh, about 10 times, and there is proof to support it from many branches of science ranging from physiology to geology, ecology to genetics.
(4) I haven't uncovered any facts, but I've read about what great scientisits have discovered and it's pretty convincing. You want to know something, start reading some paleogeology, genetics, then ecology. Then tell me what you don't understand and we'll talk.
Yes; natural selection is dependent on pre-existing life. What caused life to appear from non-life in the first place? I don't know about that one. Wish I did so I could publish and win a Nobel.
I have no problem with full-blown biblical creationism (much less ID) taught in public schools, at long as it's in a theology or maybe a philosophy class. Not in a required class though, as it's not the government's job to push religion... and not masquerading as science.
Feel free to explain how science conclusively explains the origin of creation.
Enlighten us with your arguments.
Seriously though, all your absolute comments have done is cause us to question whether or not you've already exposed yourself as lacking original thought.
What is your point?
Science has no conclusive explanation yet.
That means we are to ...what? what is your point exactly?
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