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    That's why he looks so exhausted. Stop worrying about getting everyone off and focus on basketball, Steve. Let Dragic satisfy Shaq's needs.
    Or just let Kobe taste his ass a few more times.

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    Wow, Steve Nash is a dirty .
    He likes it rough

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    All s do. He gives up his body to anyone that wants it. Disgusting.

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    All s do. He gives up his body to anyone that wants it. Disgusting.
    I agree, he was ready to get on knees at MSG if D'antoni wanted him to. Pathetic. This joke is still funny and I'm trying to figure out why.

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    I know one coach who could get Amare to play defense......and if Amare didnt, Amare would sit and sit and sit, until he decided to take defense seriously.

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    Only non-Suns fans criticize Shaq for what he's done in Phoenix. Dude's been our most consistent player all year, offensively and defensively. It's that skull , Amare Stoudemire, who is causing us problems.

    The Suns have shown that they can push the tempo and still allow Shaq to thrive in the post. But it doesn't work if Porter wants to slow the game down, while Amare half-asses every game he plays.
    Tough choices for Phoenix. Shaq is a better player than Amare, but he's ten years older. Nash is up there in years too. If they want a ring this season, I think they need to trade Amare. But if they want to rebuild, trade Shaq while he still has value and get some more youth.

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    If I am the Suns.....I trade Amare and try to get some young talent and draft picks.

    What they should have done was traded Amare, another player, and a 2nd for Gasol and Miller last year.

    Then, they could have still traded for Shaq.

    C - Shaq, Lopez
    PF - Gasol, Amundson
    SF - Diaw, Barnes
    SG - Bell, Hill, Tucker
    PG - Nash, Barbosa, Dragic

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    shouldn't it be mom, not mon?

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    Tough choices for Phoenix. Shaq is a better player than Amare, but he's ten years older. Nash is up there in years too. If they want a ring this season, I think they need to trade Amare. But if they want to rebuild, trade Shaq while he still has value and get some more youth.
    It would be ill-advised to ignore Amare's knee history. The micro-fracture surgery will eventually show up. Even if it doesn't, Amare's athleticism will go away with age, and the way his game is right now, he's useless without freak athleticism.

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    shouldn't it be mom, not mon?
    think bob marley... mon.

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    think bob marley... mon.
    I know wat you meant. I was merely making a joke about Amare's mom.

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    I know wat you meant. I was merely making a joke about Amare's mom.
    Oh, I thought you were mocking Amare's intelligence when you said it should be mom instead of mon.

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    Oh, I thought you were mocking Amare's intelligence when you said it should be mom instead of mon.
    No, his mom has more crack possession charges than Shaq has missed free throws. Any joke about Amare's mom and crack is referencing that.

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    How come Nash and his awful defense never gets mentioned when blaming Amare for not playing D? Nash and his total lack of effort on the D end set the tone for this whole team.

    When they lost Marion their defensive problems got worse. He was versatile and allowed them to "hide" Nash and his paultry D.

    Bottom line Phoenix has bad chemistry. After all, why did they break up the team after 2007 if they really thought they should have been champions if it weren't for the suspensions? It makes no sense.

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    How come Nash and his awful defense never gets mentioned when blaming Amare for not playing D? Nash and his total lack of effort on the D end set the tone for this whole team.
    I always have blamed him, it's just not worth mentioning because people don't take it seriously and get really mad at people who criticize Nash.

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    Nash doesn't seem to have the ability to be a great defender... he just naturally sucks and will always suck. Amare, on the other hand, is extremely athletic, and quick. His shortcomings on defense are entirely related to the lack of effort he puts in.

    He's become a decent man-on-man defender this season, but his help defense is atrocious.

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    don't you be blemin missus stadumyar. she's a good wohman. at least she was last nite.

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    don't you be blemin missus stadumyar. she's a good wohman. at least she was last nite.
    If you've ever seen Amare's mom the last thing you would do is make jokes about ing her.

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    Nash doesn't seem to have the ability to be a great defender... he just naturally sucks and will always suck. Amare, on the other hand, is extremely athletic, and quick. His shortcomings on defense are entirely related to the lack of effort he puts in.

    He's become a decent man-on-man defender this season, but his help defense is atrocious.
    There is no reason why Nash runs around and ball hawks like he does. There is also no reason why he can't fight through screens harder than he does, or why he can't make better decisions as to go under or over the screen. With Nash it's a lack of effort AND talent. If John Stockton can D up so can Nash.

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    As a Spurs fan, it's easy to post that I'm glad to see the Suns struggle. But, I've liked their style of play in the last 4-5 years and I believe the front office got away from their strengths in order to beat the Spurs.

    They've never had the personnel to totally remake themselves. Unless they were able to draft someone like a Tim Duncan (I know those type of players...don't come around often) and then you would have to totally rebuild and start over.

    But, they are trying to remake their team and still win and that usually doesn't work.

    I believe you should never go away from your strengths to overcompensate for your weaknesses. For example, I can't sing and no matter how much I want to sing and tell everybody I can sing and take lessons to sing....it isn't going to happen and if it did happen (miraculously) it would be mediocre at best.

    The Suns were never going to be a great defensive team with the personnel they had and they should have continue to push the envelop offensively and see what happens. They won a lot of basketball games (I know they didn't win a championship) and were still a contender.

    Look at Utah...they have stayed with same philosophy over the years and they are a winning franchise.

    Strengthen your strengths instead of trying to overcome your weaknesses!!

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    MarHill, I agree completely, which is why IMO they are wasting their time trying to win now. As much as Porter is a lack luster coach they would be dumb to fire him in the middle of the season. They need to just blow it up completely and remake the team.

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    There is no reason why Nash runs around and ball hawks like he does. There is also no reason why he can't fight through screens harder than he does, or why he can't make better decisions as to go under or over the screen. With Nash it's a lack of effort AND talent. If John Stockton can D up so can Nash.
    I almost puked reading that.

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    MarHill, I agree completely, which is why IMO they are wasting their time trying to win now. As much as Porter is a lack luster coach they would be dumb to fire him in the middle of the season. They need to just blow it up completely and remake the team.
    Thx!


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