Cavs Vs Lakers Game Thread

[DeadlyDynasty]

I actually think the Lakers should move Bynum to the 2nd unit when he comes back instead of throwing him back into the starting lineup.

Phil can then make a game time decision on whether or not Bynum or LO closes. Or he could actually try playing all 3 of them......maybe he's saving that lineup for the playoffs?

I agree...gotta ease him back in till he's mentally comfortable playing on that knee

[Biggems]

I actually think the Lakers should move Bynum to the 2nd unit when he comes back instead of throwing him back into the starting lineup.

Phil can then make a game time decision on whether or not Bynum or LO closes. Or he could actually try playing all 3 of them......maybe he's saving that lineup for the playoffs?

Fisher, Bryant, Odom, Bynam, Gasol would be a very tough lineup to deal with in the final moments of a game.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm not talking about this game in particular. Regulary they suck and are overrated because of James' game which allows the Cavs to have such a great record. Switch Wade and Lebron places and the Heat would be in a better position than the Cavs.

interesting point but I don't completely agree b/c the Heat's lack of size has killed them all year. You're probably not far off w/ that assumption tho

[IronMexican]

ROFL Coop. I wish Cooper wason KCAL so he could be on your more.

[MarHill]

I actually think the Lakers should move Bynum to the 2nd unit when he comes back instead of throwing him back into the starting lineup.

Phil can then make a game time decision on whether or not Bynum or LO closes. Or he could actually try playing all 3 of them......maybe he's saving that lineup for the playoffs?

Good point, DrHouse

I have to post that I was impressed with these two wins by the Lakers. They play with some real grit and toughness and made the little plays to win those games.

I believe making the little plays are the difference in winning a championship or not.

Also, I have to give props to Lamar Odom. 28 pts and 16 rebs...he dominated the 3rd quarter and that changed the momentum of the game to LA.

I'm looking forward to the March 12th game in SA.

[Biggems]

interesting point but I don't completely agree b/c the Heat's lack of size has killed them all year. You're probably not far off w/ that assumption tho

really?

Both came out the same year. Wade led a ty Heat team to the playoffs in his rookie year. Then he led the Heat to an NBA Championship the next season...and yes they had Shaq....but the fat diesel had nowhere near the impact he had during the Lakers run.

[DAF86]

really?

Both came out the same year. Wade led a ty Heat team to the playoffs in his rookie year. Then he led the Heat to an NBA Championship the next season...and yes they had Shaq....but the fat diesel had nowhere near the impact he had during the Lakers run.

That Shaq is a hundred times better than what LJ has, even the current Shaq is a lot better than what LJ has. Then there was Posey, Walker, Payton, Mourning, Williams, Haslem. And let's not forget Pat Riley.

[Allanon]

[cobbler]

dont be stupid.

Duncan is the best PF of all time. Kobe isnt even the best SG of all-time. Duncan won 4 les as #1 option. Kobe won 3 as #2 option.

Gervin > Kobe offensively. Let Kobe play in Gervin's era and see if he can hang with that kind of physicality.

[DrHouse]

The mods need to seriously create two topics and sticky them at the top of the forum.

1. "MJ > Kobe"
2. "Kobe vs. Lebron"

[Kobe™]

[Ghazi]

First off, D-Whistle didn't win a championship.

Again, I know the trend with NBA fans is to get a hard on about these little things, but I've learned not to put too much stock into the occurrences of an 82 game season. The Lakers were playing poor before the X-Mas game, they were alittle upset, now they've righted the ship. Celtics were 27-2, then went 2-7 and started getting worried, had a long win streak again and now have lost 2 @ home to Western contenders (generous le to the Spurs).

Pistons must've felt great after winning @ Staples after Iverson trade, now they suck.

People always jump to conclusions about which team is the favorite, or which team is hot, or which team is fading. Etc. It's always knee jerk.

This Cavs v Lakers game is more important than say a game against the likes of the Thunder or Kings, but just as is the case in those games, crazy things can happen. If the Lakers lose to the Kings, we shouldn't put much stock into it. If the Lakers lose to the Spurs on a fluke bull Mason shot, we shouldn't put much stock into it.

Similarly, if the Lakers beat the Cavs with Lamar Odom flukishly going for 28/17, the Cavs flukishly shooting 39%, the King shooting 25%, and Fisher actually making his layups, we shouldn't put too much stock into it. It's just one game. People may say things such as the Lakers have a psychological edge on the Cavs since they went into the Q and won. i don't buy it, these guys are professionals, this isn't ing high school or college.

Just because the media hype around the game, and the standings implications are more relevant, does not change the fact that the inferior team can sometimes win the game.


So again, we shouldn't put much stock into this game right now. The sexy pick as the " best team in the NBA" right now is the Lakers, and perhaps they deserve it... but the Cavs are still the best team in the NBA, because the King is the best player in the NBA.

[cobbler]

So we only put stock in if Cleveland actually wins the game and did it with Labron being the key.

What a

[Ghazi]

I didn't say that.

[DeadlyDynasty]

really?

Both came out the same year. Wade led a ty Heat team to the playoffs in his rookie year. Then he led the Heat to an NBA Championship the next season...and yes they had Shaq....but the fat diesel had nowhere near the impact he had during the Lakers run.

I think we're referrring to this year's heat and cavs.
Don't underestimate Shaq's contribution to that Heat team...he had a lousy finals against Dallas but was big against detroit and chicago

[DAF86]

Is that you in your avatar?

[sook]

First off, D-Whistle didn't win a championship.

Again, I know the trend with NBA fans is to get a hard on about these little things, but I've learned not to put too much stock into the occurrences of an 82 game season. The Lakers were playing poor before the X-Mas game, they were alittle upset, now they've righted the ship. Celtics were 27-2, then went 2-7 and started getting worried, had a long win streak again and now have lost 2 @ home to Western contenders (generous le to the Spurs).

Pistons must've felt great after winning @ Staples after Iverson trade, now they suck.

People always jump to conclusions about which team is the favorite, or which team is hot, or which team is fading. Etc. It's always knee jerk.

This Cavs v Lakers game is more important than say a game against the likes of the Thunder or Kings, but just as is the case in those games, crazy things can happen. If the Lakers lose to the Kings, we shouldn't put much stock into it. If the Lakers lose to the Spurs on a fluke bull Mason shot, we shouldn't put much stock into it.

Similarly, if the Lakers beat the Cavs with Lamar Odom flukishly going for 28/17, the Cavs flukishly shooting 39%, the King shooting 25%, and Fisher actually making his layups, we shouldn't put too much stock into it. It's just one game. People may say things such as the Lakers have a psychological edge on the Cavs since they went into the Q and won. i don't buy it, these guys are professionals, this isn't ing high school or college.

Just because the media hype around the game, and the standings implications are more relevant, does not change the fact that the inferior team can sometimes win the game.


So again, we shouldn't put much stock into this game right now. The sexy pick as the " best team in the NBA" right now is the Lakers, and perhaps they deserve it... but the Cavs are still the best team in the NBA, because the King is the best player in the NBA.

sucking some beloved ?

[Biggems]

First off, D-Whistle didn't win a championship.

Again, I know the trend with NBA fans is to get a hard on about these little things, but I've learned not to put too much stock into the occurrences of an 82 game season. The Lakers were playing poor before the X-Mas game, they were alittle upset, now they've righted the ship. Celtics were 27-2, then went 2-7 and started getting worried, had a long win streak again and now have lost 2 @ home to Western contenders (generous le to the Spurs).

Pistons must've felt great after winning @ Staples after Iverson trade, now they suck.

People always jump to conclusions about which team is the favorite, or which team is hot, or which team is fading. Etc. It's always knee jerk.

This Cavs v Lakers game is more important than say a game against the likes of the Thunder or Kings, but just as is the case in those games, crazy things can happen. If the Lakers lose to the Kings, we shouldn't put much stock into it. If the Lakers lose to the Spurs on a fluke bull Mason shot, we shouldn't put much stock into it.

Similarly, if the Lakers beat the Cavs with Lamar Odom flukishly going for 28/17, the Cavs flukishly shooting 39%, the King shooting 25%, and Fisher actually making his layups, we shouldn't put too much stock into it. It's just one game. People may say things such as the Lakers have a psychological edge on the Cavs since they went into the Q and won. i don't buy it, these guys are professionals, this isn't ing high school or college.

Just because the media hype around the game, and the standings implications are more relevant, does not change the fact that the inferior team can sometimes win the game.


So again, we shouldn't put much stock into this game right now. The sexy pick as the " best team in the NBA" right now is the Lakers, and perhaps they deserve it... but the Cavs are still the best team in the NBA, because the King is the best player in the NBA.

last time I checked, D-Whistle did win a Championship. He beat that collective group of choke artists from Big D.

[Budkin]

Wow... what a game by Lamar Odom. This Laker team actually seems better with no Bynum. Scary.

[DrHouse]

Wow... what a game by Lamar Odom. This Laker team actually seems better with no Bynum. Scary.

Offensively yes.

But not defensively. The Lakers need Bynum back for the playoff run.

[Killakobe81]

looks like the Cavs are about to lose their 1st HG.....and Avery will be right. He picked the Spurs and Lakers to win today.

heard him say that too thought he was favoring spurs but pops decision came up BIG late in the game Mason is clutch ...spurs and Celts only thing between Lakers and a le ...

[Ghazi]

last time I checked, D-Whistle did win a Championship. He beat that collective group of choke artists from Big D.

What does it say about the Spurs that they lost to a bunch of "choke artists"?

[Ghazi]

heard him say that too thought he was favoring spurs but pops decision came up BIG late in the game Mason is clutch ...spurs and Celts only thing between Lakers and a le ...

Spurs? Why the is everyone sucking the Spurs all of a sudden? All they did was beat Boston with Bonner scoring 23 flukish points.

The Spurs are not a bother to the Lakers at all. If we erase Mason's fluke shot against the Lakers earlier this year, the Spurs are 1-7 in their past 8 games against the Lakers. If I was a Lakers fan, I'd WANT to play a team I'm 7-1 against in the last 8 games.

The Cavs are the only thing that stands between anyone and a championship.

[Ghazi]

Anyone who thinks the Spurs are better than the Cavs is going by names rather than what the teams are actually accomplishing.

We all know Lebron is better than Duncan, but people think Duncan/Ginobili/Parker is a better core than Lebron/Mo/Z, and that Greg Popovich is a better coach than Mike Brown. These are fair points.

But, I go by what I see. What I see is the cavs are superior offensively to the Spurs, superior defensively, and have a better record and higher margin of victory.

[Killakobe81]

Ghazi LBJ is not the best player in the NBA though he is the most impressive ...
Fact: LBJ has no rings and played horrible in the NBA finals (Bowen with help kept him in check)...yet criticcs of Kobe or LBJ worshipers (like Ghazi) give him a pass ...
Fact:in last year's ECF as well as LBJ played he shot poorly and was outplayed by Pierce in the clutch (pierece outplayed Kobe to be fair)

Look LBJ is the best force of nature on a court becuse he is a slightly smaller Dwight howard with a gaurd's handles ...

But Kobe is better defensively (Lebron for defensive POY is full of crap) highlight blocks don't make you a great defender or Bowen Raja Bells would never get consideration ...

he is a better clutch shooter (check his rainbow fade today) ...

and he has a higher offensivel skill level

Kobe is more like tim duncan and Lebron is KG both forces that are tough to deal with but to be the best you need skill. Lebron has a lot of gifts and skills but not yet the skill-level of Duncan or kobe ...

When you can't rely on athleticisim ...great skill FT's, jumpshots when tired, etc they come to play ...

May go down someday better than kobe and MJ ...but that is NOT yet ....