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    Pops has 16 pts 7 reb in the first half on 5-5 shooting from the floor. 6-9 from the line.
    Sounds like that Pops is beast-ing in Toros

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    The three PF lineup is probably the best defensive one this season. Halfcourt O is pretty ragged, but they are getting points from offensive rebounds and fastbreaks.

    Eric Dawson is having a great game. He's a blocking machine tonight.

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    Vipers went on a 16-0 run to bring it down to a three point game. Using the press and mismatches to get back in the game.

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    yeah I've been watching the game since halftime, what a turnaround by the vipers

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    They have decent depth, whereas the Toros bench is currently one power forward. Very good coaching by Clay Moser though.

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    Pops just got his sixth block -- all of them came in the second half.

    Exciting game.

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    yeah Pop had that huge block, where the Vipers could have take the lead I think with about 20 secs to go

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    I'm hoping the Spurs are watching Pops and seeing his rebounding and shot blocking ability; and not just using Pops on the roster because the Toros lost their other PF

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    whats funny, is the last couple of games, Pops has been shooting the teams free throws late in the game

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    This hasn't been the year I've viewed the Toros the most, so I'm still quite undecided on my view of Mensah-Bonsu.
    Does it look like he could be called up soon? By the Spurs?

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    Pops ended the game with: 22 points on 6-9 fg, 10-15 ft, 18 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, 6 blocks, and 5 fouls

    he likes to get 5 fouls, had that amount in each of his games with the Toros

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    Props to our new token white guy Ryan Bright from Sam Houston State. He got two big blocks and hit a key three after just joining the team.

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    This hasn't been the year I've viewed the Toros the most, so I'm still quite undecided on my view of Mensah-Bonsu.
    Does it look like he could be called up soon? By the Spurs?
    I'm not sure because of the Toros other starting bigmen going overseas, if they were still here and the Toros called up Pops then I would more likely think the Spurs were going to give him a chance,

    but it could also just be a roster move to fill the Toros lack of PF/C

    I am hoping though, that the Spurs will give Pops a 10 day contract soon

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    Pops had been in the states for awhile after leaving Europe. I think his entry into the D-League was deliberately coordinated with the Toros' being at the top of the acquisition list. It was probably independent of the other Toros big men's leaving. It's no sure sign the Spurs are going to call him up, but you can bet RC and Dell are watching. They are really using him they way they did Ian last year, so that might be something.

    If the Spurs don't sign him to a 10 day, some other team is almost sure to soon.

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    I caught a few minutes of the game. The only explanation for why the Spurs wouldn't sign him to a 10-day contract is if they are thinking they may use that extra roster spot in a trade. Otherwise, the Spurs need a bigman and Pops is probably the best attainable bigman on the free agent market. Plus his skillset is very close to what the Spurs need.

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    Chump:

    Does Pops look stronger than Ian, less breakable?

    You mentioned Marcus Williams. How is he progressing?

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    I agree that we probably need to move on Pops soon. It wouldn't be surprising to see us sign him during the ASB. The Toros don't play again until the 16th and the Spurs will be back in town on the evening of the 11th and won't play again until the 17th. If the Spurs feel like other teams are going to show interest they could go ahead and sign him and he could join us for the game in NY.

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    I agree that we probably need to move on Pops soon. It wouldn't be surprising to see us sign him during the ASB. The Toros don't play again until the 16th and the Spurs will be back in town on the evening of the 11th and won't play again until the 17th. If the Spurs feel like other teams are going to show interest they could go ahead and sign him and he could join us for the game in NY.
    Yeah, if the Spurs are going to sign Pops, it's going to be on the 17th. A ten-day contract at that point would allow him to play six games.

    However, if they are going to wait until the 17th, they might as well wait until the 19th to see if any trades formulate. If a roster spot is still available on the 20th, then at that point it's a no-brainer to give him a look.

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    Chump:

    Does Pops look stronger than Ian, less breakable?
    A bit stronger (especially lower body) and less breakable, also less skilled.

    You mentioned Marcus Williams. How is he progressing?
    He's still stuck in tweener land as far as NBA potential is concerned. If he could add either weight or footspeed or dribbling handles, it would be much easier for a team to sign him. The guard shortage is making him play a bit more minutes and roles than he should, but overall he is one of the best players in the D-League. Tonight he came close to a triple double, but had a lot of turnovers due do charges and pressure from multiple smaller defenders.
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    Mahinmi and Pops are similar but not overly so. Mahinmi has a taller and wider frame, although his legs are skinnier. Pops, on the other hand, may even be undersized to play PF in the NBA. Mahinmi is big enough to play center.

    Pops is more of a hustle/athlete big. Mahinmi has turned out to be more of a skill big. They may be similar athletes but Pops is better at using his athleticism, whereas Mahinmi is still a bit clumsy.

    Mahinmi has the better long term potential because he has actual skills but Pops could help out in terms of adding a lively body to the front line. In that sense, Pops is like a more athletic version of Tolliver minus the potential three-point stroke.

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    If the Spurs are looking for a traditional defensive center, I'd work out Dwayne Jones -- but I think Pops could play an Elson-like role out of the box. I think he would be great for the Spurs' transition game.

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    If the Spurs are looking for a traditional defensive center, I'd work out Dwayne Jones -- but I think Pops could play an Elson-like role out of the box. I think he would be great for the Spurs' transition game.
    Have you seen a lot of Chris Hunter - Ft. Wayne? Is on assignment or is he available?

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    If the Spurs are looking for a traditional defensive center, I'd work out Dwayne Jones -- but I think Pops could play an Elson-like role out of the box. I think he would be great for the Spurs' transition game.
    I like Dwayne Jones. Can't score in an empty gym but he can rebound and defend very well. Gotta be the best rebounder on the market.

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    Hey Chump, do you think because of his size Mensa would be easy to score on low, or would he use his agility and speed to his advantage?

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    Props to our new token white guy Ryan Bright from Sam Houston State. He got two big blocks and hit a key three after just joining the team.
    Whoo, I'm going to Sam right now!!!!!!!!

    And do you think he could possibly be a long 3? I'm asking based on the assumption of timvp that he would be undersized for a PF. From what I've heard, he should have enough athleticism and speed. But I'd rather he take KT/Bonner/Fab minutes than Hairstons, since I know Pop wouldn't do anything radical like take some of Fins minutes to give to a player that would possibly represent the future of the Spurs.

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