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    You do realize that you can only have 15 players on the roster? That means the Pistons would have to spend a lot of money buying guys out or cut about 5 guys from the current team.
    I think they would have to cut guys first. IIRC they can't ever go over 15 players after a trade, which makes cutting guys after the fact to get to 15 not allowed.

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    I wouldn't say so. Riding into the playoffs with only 3 bigmen doesn't excite me.
    Yeah that of course is true, those 3 can spread the floor though and score a lot of points(Duncan, Rasheed and Bonner) and if it happened the Spurs could sign a D-league big guy possibly. This is all wishful thinking. I find it funny that Reggie Miller said it would make them the best team in the west by far and it is true. I mean its just so hard to see Rasheed going to San Antonio in the next ....what is it 7 days?

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    The pistons are a ing mess. That is the only 100% true thing in this thread.

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    They Pistons can get nothing. The only types of teams that Wallace helps are teams like the Spurs who need one more piece for a le. Other teams with young guys that are rotation players would never be traded because it is a lateral move that sucks for the long term.

    There is no reason why Detroit trades Wallace with his money coming off the books unless they can get a combo of expiring contracts, draft picks and someone who is a recent draft pick that has not turned into a rotation player yet for a contending team.

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    DET trades Sheed they automaticly becomes a worse team.....

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    Wallace isn't a game changer anymore IMHO. All the dude does is jackup idiotic 3's.

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    DET trades Sheed they automaticly becomes a worse team.....
    So? They don't feel they can win a this year anyway...
    Trading him would get them something in return as opposed to letting him walk at the end of the season, because Joe wants to rebuild, which means letting Sheed and AI walk.

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    DET trades Sheed they automaticly becomes a worse team.....
    Detroit is going no where this year anyways. They have no chance to win it this year unless they pull off a miracle trade. Other than that, Sheed does nothing for them anymore. But they get a lot of money next year with him and Iverson coming off the books.

    Amare is the best they can hope for by far. That is the only case where they can get a super star, young player for Rasheed because the Suns are in need of a quick fix to get better this year and they think that trading Amare for a guy like Sheed probably helps them this year, plus gives them wiggle room for next year. That is the only scenario I see that makes any kind of sense if they are hoping for someone to impact them now.

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    So? They don't feel they can win a this year anyway...
    Trading him would get them something in return as opposed to letting him walk at the end of the season, because Joe wants to rebuild, which means letting Sheed and AI walk.
    You have to ask yourself is what they are getting in return for a trade better than what they can get for 34 million in free agency? I do not think so. Unless they get Amare. That is almost like the perfect storm scenario.

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    Wallace isn't a game changer anymore IMHO. All the dude does is jackup idiotic 3's.
    I can guarantee you if Sheed knew he was on a team that had a chance of winning it all he would play like his old self.

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    I can guarantee you if Sheed knew he was on a team that had a chance of winning it all he would play like his old self.
    Exactly. Some people confuse bordem or disdain with lack of skill. This is clearly a case of Wallace knowing his time is up in Detroit and needing a change of scenery.

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    I can guarantee you if Sheed knew he was on a team that had a chance of winning it all he would play like his old self.
    Never mind him.. he's just scared...

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    I agree with Miller's statement. And giving that this trade could be the difference for us between a championship and a WC finals. I think the Spurs FO should throw everything they have on trying to make it work:

    The Pistons want expiring contracts so Vaughn, Udoka and Finley (we tell the Pistons to let him go and sign him back) are assets, Horry could come in handy too. You know how much can we sign him for to make the salaries match?

    -Then give Detroit things like: Splitter's rights, Mahinmi, a 1st round pick and maybe some cash compesation to make it more desirable for them.

    I think Dumars will go for this what do you think?
    Is it legal to sign Horry for 8 mil?

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    If we have his bird rights then we can sign him to what ever, I am not sure if we do though.

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    You have to give the Pistons something like Mahinmi or Splitter's rights, draft picks and/or cash to make it worthwhile for them otherwise it's a waste of time for Detroit.

    I think if Splitter wants to come to the NBA then that is a pretty good prospect for Detroit or any team really. Mahinmi could be an interesting pick up for them too.

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    You have to give the Pistons something like Mahinmi or Splitter's rights, draft picks and/or cash to make it worthwhile for them otherwise it's a waste of time for Detroit.

    I think if Splitter wants to come to the NBA then that is a pretty good prospect for Detroit or any team really. Mahinmi could be an interesting pick up for them too.
    Yea this ought to work

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    Is it legal to sign Horry for 8 mil?
    105% within what he signed for last year IIRC.

    Chump or another salary cap expert could correct me.

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    Trading Ian is something I'm sure the Spurs want to avoid, but trading Splitter's rights is something that they should entertain. Ian is young and can stand to develop under Tim and a Rasheed for the future. Package up Udoka, Bonner and soe other guys the Pistons will waive and the Spurs will pick up again and I'd like that alot.

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    we would still have full bird rights on horry, no? if so, we could sign him all the way up to the max.

    im off to larry coons page to see if there are any other issues im missing.

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    Trading Ian is something I'm sure the Spurs want to avoid, but trading Splitter's rights is something that they should entertain. Ian is young and can stand to develop under Tim and a Rasheed for the future. Package up Udoka, Bonner and soe other guys the Pistons will waive and the Spurs will pick up again and I'd like that alot.
    It might not be enough to just give Detroit one of them. I'd love to keep either Ian or Splitter's rights, but you might have to include both for Detroit to do it. Would the Spurs be willing to trade two young prospects for Rasheed? And what if Rasheed bolts next season? We're left with nothing.

    Splitter IMO is by far the most attractive option for the Pistons if he's willing to come over because that would be like a lottery pick for them. I don't know if the Spurs want to do that though after the Scola trade .

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    I never thought the Lakers could make a trade for Pau Gasol while using Kwame as thier main bait....

    But damn dude if the Spurs could land Rasheed the NBA might as well give us the Championship. Seriously.

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    this new development(well new in the news) with Horry opens the options up a lot more for us, that's for sure..

    I still think we get a small name though, which would be good too, if they fit the need..

    looking for the big name is probably asking too much..

    as for Sheed..playing for a coach he respects, playing with Duncan, playing on an elite team..there's no way he wouldn't be motivated..he's THE ideal player, considering he's a Laker killer..

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    I never thought the Lakers could make a trade for Pau Gasol while using Kwame as thier main bait....

    But damn dude if the Spurs could land Rasheed the NBA might as well give us the Championship. Seriously.
    I'd rather watch them win it.

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    I never believe "X to Spurs" rumors though..there are far too many of them every year that don't happen..this one is even more difficult to believe, because it's the perfect compliment to our team, and the perfect player that would put us over the top..

    obviously the part that could make it realistic is what DPG said..Detroit isn't getting anything for Sheed, unless they trade him to a top-tier team, or a team that feels like he can put them up in the elite..Sheed playing for a bad team is an unmotivated Rasheed Wallace, which doesn't help them at all..

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