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    I like the strides that Bargnani has been making, but the Spurs need a big man who can hit the offensive boards and block a few shots...





    ... since David Robinson retired.

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    I think if you think Bargnani is good, then you need to watch more basketball.

    Bargnani sucks and is one of the worst number 1 picks ever.

    EPIC FAIL

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    Pass

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    he's never going to reach Dirk..

    I dislike him, but he's the most underrated player in the NBA..a lot of people seem to forget how good he is, just because the Mavs aren't as good..
    agreed, no one can reach Dirk who is among the greatest players of all time.

    A seat in the HOF has already been booked for Dirk.

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    Now you cannot truly say that Bargnani would not help the Spurs. He has his flaws, but if you have watched him consistently this year, you can see his game growing.

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    Yeah that 8 of 21 shooting performance really sold me.

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    Yeah that 8 of 21 shooting performance really sold me.
    Myopic. Look it up.

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    Yeah that 8 of 21 shooting performance really sold me.
    Do Spurs need someone with size? Check. Do Spurs like big men that can stretch the floor? Check. Do the Spurs need youth and upside? Check.


    Did I say trade the big 3 for him? No. I said he could help the Spurs for sure and he is still growing his game.

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    Do Spurs need someone with size? Check. Do Spurs like big men that can stretch the floor? Check. Do the Spurs need youth and upside? Check.


    Did I say trade the big 3 for him? No. I said he could help the Spurs for sure and he is still growing his game.
    Do the Spurs need a bigman that shudders at the thought of rebounding and going to the basket?

    No

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    Do Spurs need someone with size? Check. Do Spurs like big men that can stretch the floor? Check. Do the Spurs need youth and upside? Check.


    Did I say trade the big 3 for him? No. I said he could help the Spurs for sure and he is still growing his game.
    Yeah, the Spurs need size. But they need size that's actually going to help the Spurs take back control of the paint. Bargnani won't do that. Bargnani is coming along nicely, but he's not going to go bang down low and alter shots. The Spurs need a true center. Bargnani is basically just a 7 foot small forward at this point.

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    Yeah, the Spurs need size. But they need size that's actually going to help the Spurs take back control of the paint. Bargnani won't do that. Bargnani is coming along nicely, but he's not going to go bang down low and alter shots. The Spurs need a true center. Bargnani is basically just a 7 foot small forward at this point.
    He is averaging over a block a game. He is exactly the type of big the Spurs like and that gives Tim room to operate down low. His defense does need work, but he is athletic enough to learn.

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    Do the Spurs need a bigman that shudders at the thought of rebounding and going to the basket?

    No







    For someone that "shudders" at the thought of going to the rim, he sure does have a lot of highlight dunks. Please exit the thread.

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    He is averaging over a block a game. He is exactly the type of big the Spurs like and that gives Tim room to operate down low. His defense does need work, but he is athletic enough to learn.
    Matt Bonner gives Tim room to operate. Yeah, Bargnani is better than Bonner, but we don't need a better Matt Bonner. We need someone who gives Tim the freedom to freelance on defense. We also need that someone immediately. Time spent waiting out a learning curve on Bargnani is time lost on Tim Duncan's career where he doesn't have the frontcourt help he needs.

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    Oh and here is another video of Bargnani cowering before the rim for the poster formerly known as TPark aka "The Big Emo"


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    Matt Bonner gives Tim room to operate. Yeah, Bargnani is better than Bonner, but we don't need a better Matt Bonner. We need someone who gives Tim the freedom to freelance on defense. We also need that someone immediately. Time spent waiting out a learning curve on Bargnani is time lost on Tim Duncan's career where he doesn't have the frontcourt help he needs.
    He is an able defender, especially if you put him in a system. He could definitely hang with Gasol, he has the speed and footwork and length to bother him. Not to mention the type of offense he has.

    Plus he has shown he can do it in the playoffs, unlike Bonner.

    Your assertion that this current team needs a big down low immediately is overstated. This current team can win as is if they play better and getting a guy like Bargs would indeed help now.

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    Nine points in the last half of the fourth quarter against the Spurs.

    We need someone who gives Tim the freedom to freelance on defense.
    We traded away all those guys and went for Matt Bonner who definitely does NOT do this.

    The Raptors will admit they should have just kept Rasho and started Andrea and Bosh- using TJ if they insisted on trading him for help on the wing.

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    He is an able defender, especially if you put him in a system. He could definitely hang with Gasol, he has the speed and footwork and length to bother him. Not to mention the type of offense he has.

    Plus he has shown he can do it in the playoffs, unlike Bonner.

    Your assertion that this current team needs a big down low immediately is overstated. This current team can win as is if they play better and getting a guy like Bargs would indeed help now.
    Gasol's numbers against Toronto this year are 28 & 12, so that doesn't support your point very well. And as for the Spurs need for a big, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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    So some youtube videos = slasher


    Genius arguement.

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    Nine points in the last half of the fourth quarter against the Spurs.
    Bargnani can score. I don't dispute that.

    We traded away all those guys and went for Matt Bonner who definitely does NOT do this.

    The Raptors will admit they should have just kept Rasho and started Andrea and Bosh- using TJ if they insisted on trading him for help on the wing.
    After the Dallas series in 2006 the Spurs thought they needed a quicker lineup. Dallas folded and the lakers got real big up front all of a sudden. Had the Spurs known ahead of time that would happen, perhaps they wouldn't have dumped Rasho. I'd take Rasho back on this team in a heartbeat. He's exactly the type of guy we need. IMO at least.

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    Bargnani can score. I don't dispute that.



    After the Dallas series in 2006 the Spurs thought they needed a quicker lineup. Dallas folded and the lakers got real big up front all of a sudden. Had the Spurs known ahead of time that would happen, perhaps they wouldn't have dumped Rasho.

    They would've still dumped Rasho because he was re ulously overpaid.

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    So some youtube videos = slasher


    Genius arguement.
    Where is your proof that he is afraid to attack? Did I call him a slasher? I simply posted evidence to refute your claims that he shudders at the thought of going to the rack.

    All I did is expose what everyone here already knows about you: you talk about guys whom you clearly do not watch.

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    Gasol's numbers against Toronto this year are 28 & 12, so that doesn't support your point very well. And as for the Spurs need for a big, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
    That does not tell you what happened when Andrea specifically was on him. And he surely defends Gasol better than Bonner does. Actually, Andrea is pretty good as a one-on-one defender in the post.

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    Well, when you look at the said player in a purely rational point of view lets do.
    This is big bowl of grammar and punctuation fail.

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    Gasol's numbers against Toronto this year are 28 & 12, so that doesn't support your point very well. And as for the Spurs need for a big, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
    That is like saying teams numbers against the Spurs this year prove that the Spurs are a bad defensive team. They are not a bad defensive team, they are a good defensive team playing bad defense right now.

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    They would've still dumped Rasho because he was re ulously overpaid.
    I'm not so sure. Yeah he's overpaid, but him being overpaid has no affect how how effective he was in helping Tim anchor the defense.

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