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Carter's contract will be gone when Manu and Tim are.
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Yes when Duncan and Manu are gone.
Great players will come and go....I get that!!
The FO still wants to be in a good financial position when that day comes!!
Carter's contract will be gone when Manu and Tim are.
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Agreed, and that's why this isn't happening, the Spurs FO is the smartest in the league, therefore too smart to put themselves in a hole like that.
The Spurs aren't going to make any big moves because they just don't do that.
They will bank on Manu's ankle recovering in time for the playoffs and let the chips fall where they may. I'm baffled that Spur fans actually think their FO would trade Ginobili.
Who said anything about trading Manu?
Hardly anyone has mentioned Manu in trade scenarios.
Trade Manu?? Where'd you read that?
Carter's contract is only for 2 more years. yeah big hole.
Not all Spurs fans think that.
I guess I should take that approach when deciding to spend money going to games or not. If the FO isn't willing to spend money to give our team the best chance to win...why should I spend my money on seeing a team spin their wheels?Like I said it's easy to spend other's people money and think there is no rammifications for it!
No wonder our country is going a tough an economic situation right now!!!
Spend, spend, spend.....it doesn't matter the government will give me more anyway!!!!
Hate Mark Cuban all you want, he's the kind of owner any fan would love to have from a financial support standpoint.
The guy who cut Michael Finley and pays him to play for the Spurs?
The guy who stuck his nose in the basketball side of the team and forced a trade for a broken down Jason Kidd trading away an all star point guard!?!!??!
Yeah, I'd love to have that owner
Please tell me your being facetious.
you spelled it wrong.
Yes & no.
He spends on his team, there's no doubting that.
But he's also in a major market - and that shouldn't be overlooked.
Chad Ford:
The Nets and Blazers were negotiating late into the night over Vince Carter. One of the hang-ups now is Portland's insistence that the Nets include the 2011 first-round pick the Nets acquired from the Golden State Warriors in any deal for Carter. It's pretty tough at the moment to get a handle on what the Blazers are doing. They talked to Bucks, Bobcats and the Nets on Wednesday. And one source insists there's still a possibility that the Blazers don't do anything.
Exactly. People get way too carried away sometimes. I imagine the FO gets a lot of laughs from some of the theories they hear.
Blazers up ante for Carter
As the market dries up on Vince Carter’s expensive contract, the Portland Trail Blazers have raised the price on the New Jersey Nets to complete a trade. Portland now wants a first-round draft pick, a league executive familiar with the talks said Wednesday night.
The Blazers and Nets have discussed several scenarios centering on Carter, including one that would send the eight-time All-Star guard, Maurice Ager and Chris Douglas-Roberts to the Blazers for Raef LaFrentz, Travis Outlaw and Sergio Rodriguez. So far, the source said, the Nets are balking, but the Blazers are counting on the fact that the several Carter suitors – including San Antonio, Dallas and Houston – just don’t have the comparable assets to make a deal.
“I know they are desperate to trade Vince and teams know that,” the source said. “And now teams are looking to rob them.”
Teams are dubious of the Blazers’ claims that LaFrentz’s expiring contract has drawn league-wide interest. Portland is considering using LaFrentz’s expiring contract on multiple deals, including Milwaukee’s Richard Jefferson.
Jefferson on the move?
The Cleveland Cavaliers have talked to the Bucks about acquiring Jefferson, two league executives said Wednesday afternoon.
Cleveland is dangling the expiring contract of Wally Szczerbiak for Jefferson, who has two years and $29.2 million left on his contract. The Cavaliers have been active in seeking talent to surround LeBron James for a le run.
The Bucks have been engaged in talks with the Trail Blazers about a package that would include Jefferson for Travis Outlaw and LaFrentz’s expiring contract.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
Maybe the Spurs can get VC for spare parts now hopefully, ya never know.
So its either we land Sheed, VC, Jefferson, Wilcox, Smith, or no one! Damn it I better wakeup to a decent deal! No Mason, no Hill involved.
With trade deadline looming, New Jersey Nets believed to be trying to 'give Carter away'
by Dave D'Alessandro/The Star-Ledger Thursday February 19, 2009, 12:53 AM
DALLAS -- As the trade deadline enters its final hours Thursday, there are numerous factors working against the Nets' bid to shed Vince Carter's salary -- which has become their primary objective, because they can't actually find a deal that will improve their roster.
The greatest factor is perception: Every GM in the league ended their business day Wednesday believing that Rod Thorn has no other choice but to go into dump mode, and that he'll be willing to take back virtually nothing but expiring contracts in exchange for Carter.
An ESPN report even quoted two of these executives, each of whom stated that the Nets are trying to "give Carter away."
Remarkably, Thorn didn't exactly deny it when asked to comment on that perception, but he gave it his own spin.
"I've always said you do trades for two reasons," the Nets president said Wednesday night before the Nets faced the Mavericks. "You do them for the present, or you do them for what's best moving forward. Those are the only two reasons, as far as I'm concerned."
In other words, you can dump salary, for the sake of putting the franchise on more solid financial footing and in a better situation to compete in the 2010 free-agent market.
"You could look at trades in a different light," Thorn said. "But with anything we're trying to do, we're looking at what's in the best long-term interests of our team."
At the same time, Thorn does not want to give his peers the impression that there is a fire sale going on, so that he can get a better return for a 32-year-old who has $33 million in guaranteed salary the next two seasons.
As of Wednesday night, he was failing in that bid.
Thorn will only admit to this much: He has nothing that he would consider promising, and still doesn't expect any deals to emerge before 3 p.m. Thursday.
"We have nothing at all happening -- just a lot of conversation," Thorn said. "I can't describe it in any way -- it's just normal talk for this time of year. A lot of chatter, and that's all it is."
But much of that chatter pertains to his team.
Thorn's peers claim that all the reported trade permutations of the last week are as archaic as the steam engine. The reason: Forced by their owners to slash payroll or face Draconian measures, GMs have taken another look at their long-range financial projections and have found religion.
And those projections have no place for Carter, who will make $16.1 million next season and $17.5 million in 2010-11.
The Nets themselves can no longer afford him, as long as the team is stuck in the lottery. Their arena doesn't generate enough revenue, Brooklyn is years away, the improvement is coming too slowly to satisfy the small fan base, and their own financial losses figure to be in the same $30-35 million range this season.
So even as Thorn asks teams to take Carter's salary, they are getting cheeky: In some cases, they're asking for draft picks to sweeten the package.
Even the most recent development didn't pan out, because everyone is looking to shed big salaries as soon as possible: Whereas the Nets thought they could send Carter to Portland for Raef LaFrentz and spare parts, they are only one of a dozen teams in play for that expiring contract.
The discussions they've had over the last few weeks are almost moot.
According to general managers who request anonymity because they don't want to speak ill of Carter, the Nets cannot get a valuable piece from anywhere.
To wit: Dallas, under no cir stances, will give the Nets Josh Howard. Houston, under no cir stances, will give the Nets Shane Battier.
The only thing Thorn has left, these GMs believe, is the nuclear option -- dumping Carter's salary for pennies on the dollar -- and hoping the fans understand that it's all about clearing cap space for 2010, when the Nets hope business will pick up.
Thorn, however, is a compe ive man who isn't ready to do that. He could get Tracy McGrady, but that would cons ute a salary dump. He could get Jerry Stackhouse and Erick Dampier, but that too would cons ute a salary dump.
Unless owner Bruce Ratner directs him to do otherwise -- which some team officials fear could happen -- Thorn will resist that option until 3 p.m. Thursday.
http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/200...ooming_ne.html
Spurs gotta jump on Carter if Manu's out. I don't like the guy, but it's a wasted season if Manu can't go and the Spurs can't find some way to replace his scoring.
Sounds like Thorn is really leaning towards a salary dump tomorrow, if anything at all..
If the Spurs get outta all this with a steal from them I'll be one happy cu ber.
In what has to be one of the stranger stories of the season, the deal that sent Tyson Chandler from the Hornets to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox is null and void this morning, after Chandler failed his physical on Wednesday. The teams heard about the news after their games Wednesday night, and Chris Paul, when speaking to reporters about it, said that the team” rejoiced” when they found out Chandler was heading back to New Orleans. So where does this leave the Thunder? Now that their deal for Chandler fell through, there is still thoughts that they may look for a last minute move for either Joe Smith or Chris Wilcox.
If you read today’s Newark Star-Ledger, then you will believe the Nets are going to trade Vince Carter today, and Nets fans may not be happy with what they get in return. Nets GM Rod Thorn is said to be in “dump mode”, and may be willing to take nothing but expiring contracts in return for giving up Vince. Carter, who is due 2 years and $33 million left on his current deal, is said to be almost expecting to get a phone call at any minute.
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