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    It means it was a free for all when Jordan retired and the Rockets had two good years in his absence. This site makes you choose a team and this one is just a random team. I like basketball and have no favorites.
    That argument stands if the rockets ever made it to the finals when after 95. Then it can be said they were flukes...

    They fell off due to age after that year. They didn't make it to the finals, so you aren't maiking any sense...

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    1. Olajuwon WAS the best center ever, he played in the Era of great centers and he flat dominated all of them. wilt, russell were great no doubt, but pu akeem in their Era and he would get their numbers too, put russell in Today and you'd have tim duncan.

    2. Drexler in '95 WAS as good as jordan. every bit. no doubt. interchangable. he just had to defer to Hakeem so he wasn't 'the man'. but his ability and contributions were jordanesque.

    3. the '96 bulls would have no answer for hakeem, and drexler would have matched jordan. horry would have given pippen trouble.

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    they had a short run
    You summed it up right there buddy, they got two rings right in the middle of the Bulls two three-peats, that's why they had a short run, they wouldn't have had any run if Jordan wasn't playing baseball.

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    Believe me..I'm the last guy who's going to stand up for jack, but the OP said they could beat any team of any time, so what he's saying kind of makes sense.
    I appreciate that. Thanks and I know it has nothing to do with the other thread we chatted in. Peace Bro.

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    ^ I think Kareem is the greatest C ever...

    And no i still don't think the rockets could beat that team. The rest of the bulls teams i think they could.

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    You summed it up right there buddy, they got two rings right in the middle of the Bulls two three-peats, that's why they had a short run, they wouldn't have had any run if Jordan wasn't playing baseball.
    Then the spurs wouldn't have gotten their first ring had Jordan not retired?

    Do you honestly believe that in that 2 yr window the rox won jordan would have gotten 2 rings and basically won 8 straight championships? Get real man!

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    That argument stands if the rockets ever made it to the finals when after 95. Then it can be said they were flukes...

    They fell off due to age after that year. They didn't make it to the finals, so you aren't maiking any sense...
    You honestly think the Rockets would have won those les if Jordan was there. Really?

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    They would have been owned by the '95-'96 Bulls...period
    1989-1990 bulls games against rockets

    Feb 01 atHouston Rockets L 139-112

    Feb 19 vsHouston Rockets W 107-102
    Bulls game log against rockets 1990-1991


    Jan 3 atHouston Rockets L 114-92
    Mar 25 vsHouston Rockets L 100-90



    Michael Jordan Game Log 1991-1992 against rockets:

    Jan 25
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    114-100

    Jan 30 atHouston Rockets L 105-102

    Jordans bulls against rockets 1992-1993
    Dec 11 vsHouston Rockets L 110-96

    Jan 28 atHouston Rockets L 94-83

    1995-1996

    Jan 3 vsHouston Rockets W 100-86

    Jan 30 atHouston Rockets W 98-87

    1996-1997 jordan bulls
    Jan 11 vsHouston Rockets W 110-86

    Jan 19 atHouston Rockets L 102-86

    I wouldn't say they dominated the rockets, or that the rockets would not have won those championships

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    1. Olajuwon WAS the best center ever, he played in the Era of great centers and he flat dominated all of them. wilt, russell were great no doubt, but pu akeem in their Era and he would get their numbers too, put russell in Today and you'd have tim duncan.

    2. Drexler in '95 WAS as good as jordan. every bit. no doubt. interchangable. he just had to defer to Hakeem so he wasn't 'the man'. but his ability and contributions were jordanesque.

    3. the '96 bulls would have no answer for hakeem, and drexler would have matched jordan. horry would have given pippen trouble.
    No no no no no no no no no. There never has been and never will be a player like Jordan. Even Laker fans know that Kobe will never be Jordan. You have to respect the out of Kobe on the court, but he'll never be Mike..and Clyde was not Mike...ever. 6 rings dude...6. Most of them with just hmi and roleplayers. Clyde wasn't even the best player on that team. Comparing Clyde to Mike is a sin...not even close...

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    Clyde isn't on Kobe's level, get real with this. Hakeem and Shaq are toe-to-toe right with each other, imo. I think that 2001 Lakers' team best was better than that Rocket teams best.
    kobe NOW is better than clyde was, but a '95 Clyde would have mopped the floor with the '00-04 Kobe. period. if you had watched the whole thing you would know

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    Clyde isn't on Kobe's level, get real with this. Hakeem and Shaq are toe-to-toe right with each other, imo. I think that 2001 Lakers' team best was better than that Rocket teams best.
    Go to youtube and watch some Drexler highlights, because I saw him play in his prime and he can match kobe in any aspect of the game. The difference was when he played the rules weren't set to make the game easier for wing players. That means if Kobe played in Clydes era Kobe wouldn't even be Kobe. Give Clyde the handicaps these players have today and he would average 35 a game on 50% shooting.. Shaq couldn't hold Hakeems Jock strap. He got owned when they played and now you are telling me that a larger slower Shaq was somehow as goodor better? Kids these days.

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    Go to youtube and watch some Drexler highlights, because I saw him play in his prime and he can match kobe in any aspect of the game. The difference was when he played the rules weren't set to make the game easier for wing players. That means if Kobe played in Clydes era Kobe wouldn't even be Kobe. Give Clyde the handicaps these players have today and he would average 35 a game on 50% shooting.. Shaq couldn't hold Hakeems Jock strap. He got owned when they played and now you are telling me that a larger slower Shaq was somehow as goodor better? Kids these days.
    I saw him play in his prime as well..Clyde was great...but Jordan? Come on...you have to admit he's not Mike.

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    You honestly think the Rockets would have won those les if Jordan was there. Really?
    Why wouldn't i? So basically they way you say it.

    Lets picture this.

    Rockets get to the finals as they did because Jordan isn't in the west.

    Bulls make it to the finals? How? They got beat by the 95 Orlando Magic so

    unless you can muster up an excuse for their loss, it has nothing to do with that

    because jordan DID IN FACT play in 95. The fact he didn't make it to the finals

    has nothing to do with the rockets. Its not a difficult concept, quite rudimentary actually.

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    They were so good they needed Danny Manning to be injured to barely beat the Suns. Thank god I was too young to remember that season.

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    I saw him play in his prime as well..Clyde was great...but Jordan? Come on...you have to admit he's not Mike.
    No, he definitely wasn't on Mikes level but Kobes' ? Without a doubt.

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    No no no no no no no no no. There never has been and never will be a player like Jordan. Even Laker fans know that Kobe will never be Jordan. You have to respect the out of Kobe on the court, but he'll never be Mike..and Clyde was not Mike...ever. 6 rings dude...6. Most of them with just hmi and roleplayers. Clyde wasn't even the best player on that team. Comparing Clyde to Mike is a sin...not even close...
    oh brother, im sick of this 'how dare you even come close to suggesting anyone was even close to being near to the beginnings of jordan' crap.

    yes he was the best SG of all time. but that '95 drexeler had the same ability, talent and FIRE of jordan. sure he only won the one, then took it easy and retired, but for that one playoff run, he was prety much unstoppable (the way you could say wade in '06 finals was)

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    Why wouldn't i? So basically they way you say it.

    Lets picture this.

    Rockets get to the finals as they did because Jordan isn't in the west.

    Bulls make it to the finals? How? They got beat by the 95 Orlando Magic so

    unless you can muster up an excuse for their loss, it has nothing to do with that

    because jordan DID IN FACT play in 95. The fact he didn't make it to the finals

    has nothing to do with the rockets. Its not a difficult concept, quite rudimentary actually.
    Jordan played for part of the season in '95..and wasn't NEAR the normal Jordan...he had to shake off the rust a bit, and get used to the game again. But the pieces of the '95-'96 Bulls were just plain better than the '94-'95 Rockets...

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    poop they are not the GOAT though.

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    You can't really compare Clyde and Kobe......Kobe's playing in an era that caters to shooting guards, when Clyde was playing shooting guards weren't nearly as catered to by the league.

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    Jordan played for part of the season in '95..and wasn't NEAR the normal Jordan...he had to shake off the rust a bit, and get used to the game again. But the pieces of the '95-'96 Bulls were just plain better than the '94-'95 Rockets...
    So basically you are IMPLYING that the MAGIC wouldn't have beaten the bulls.

    That has nothing to do with the rockets once again. Whether that is true or not doesn't matter. You can make that excuse for every team. What if Stoudamire wasn't suspended vs the spurs. The fact is the Bulls lost to another team in the east. It is irrefutable and doesn't weigh down the rockets valiant efforts during the course of that year one bit. Don't listen to poop, the 96 bulls team was better.

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    You can't really compare Clyde and Kobe......Kobe's playing in an era that caters to shooting guards, when Clyde was playing shooting guards weren't nearly as catered to by the league.
    exactly.

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    Why wouldn't i? So basically they way you say it.

    Lets picture this.

    Rockets get to the finals as they did because Jordan isn't in the west.

    Bulls make it to the finals? How? They got beat by the 95 Orlando Magic so

    unless you can muster up an excuse for their loss, it has nothing to do with that

    because jordan DID IN FACT play in 95. The fact he didn't make it to the finals

    has nothing to do with the rockets. Its not a difficult concept, quite rudimentary actually.

    Jordan ruled the league. He played a big ass mind on every team by his superior play. My opinion is just a opinion. The Rockets were the team that said " ing Jordan is out, anyone can win the damn thing" They went with that and won. When the greatest player in the history of the game came back, the Rockets motivational theme left the building. They fell in line with everyone else.

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    poop they are not the GOAT though.
    IMO you could teleport ANY team back to '95, and the rockets would have beat them in a 7 game series.

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    You can't really compare Clyde and Kobe......Kobe's playing in an era that caters to shooting guards, when Clyde was playing shooting guards weren't nearly as catered to by the league.
    Exactly!!!

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    Jordan ruled the league. He played a big ass mind on every team by his superior play. My opinion is just a opinion. The Rockets were the team that said " ing Jordan is out, anyone can win the damn thing" They went with that and won. When the greatest player in the history of the game came back, the Rockets motivational theme left the building. They fell in line with everyone else.
    So your telling me the rockets won because of that mentality? Good god every one just likes to take away from the rockets. every little thing, i guess the fans were being fluky and being extra supportive b.c they knew jordan was out too.

    Come on dude.

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