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    It also has to do with the business side of ticket management.

    I had a feeling that the Manu situation would linger. This information comes only days after the fact that season ticket holders had to pay for next seasons' tickets to nail down the price freeze. Ticket management did the wrong thing by semi-threatening STH last season that they may "lose" their seats if they didn't adhere to their requests. A lot of long time seat holders didn't come back for that reason alone. Most felt that it was a slap in the face. For that and now the economy....they had to announce the price freeze due to poor attendance. It was a great big cluster- and now a lot of heads are starting to roll because of it.

    The higher-ups have been told that when it comes to bad news about players.....it stays quiet until told otherwise.




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    I don't know-for what it's worth for you worry warts. (I include myself in that category). My spouse is a physician--an orthopedic radiologist. Of course, I'm always asking Spur injury related questions. I was told a stress reaction is 100% recoverable. It's better than tearing a ligament which will never be 100% the way it used to be. The time back for Manu just depends on the severity of his stress reaction. But since an MRI and not an X-ray detected it, it wasn't a level 3 or 4. More like a 1 or 2. An x-ray would have caught a severe stress reaction like a 3 or 4.

    That said, MANU will be back for sure before the playoffs. This injury is 100% recoverable!!! So, just let Pop be conservative right now. Truthfully, we worry more about Tim's injury. HE will not be 100% because he has not time to do any serious healing.
    You wife should be recruited for SAS, our docs sucks

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    Manu will be fine, I feel it. I just feel that based off of what happened in last years playoffs with Manu hurting big time, Pop is going to be super super cautious with him this year.

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    some spur fans u all are. im sticking with my boys till the wheels fall off.
    Thats some funny e in ya sig.

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    too much pressure on manu ?

    everyone is treating him like a child for 2 or 3 years, now, like he's made of glass.

    he better rush back his ass because Tim is playing hampered and Tony is carrying us while Manu has basically rested all year after killing us the last PO.

    Manu is great, but he can't us two consecutive years and still be pitied.

    Yes, Manu is the biggest answer to our problem. but is it because he's our savior ? not.

    it's because we need our big three to have any chance, and as usual we'll probably can trust Tim and Tony to give us what they usually give.

    For Manu, it probably will be a lot of "play him less minutes", "is he hampered" "he doesn't have his usual explosiveness" etc etc......

    , i want the real manu back with Tim and Tony. i just can't stand the uncessant questions about his health and level anymore.
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    How did he us? By playing as well as he could on one leg? Some people here act like he wants to be hurt on purpose. Unbelievable. All anyone ever remembers is what happens last. I guess nobody remembers that he played very well against the Hornets and led the team in scoring and assists. Without him they wouldn't even have gotten to play LA.

    Also, he had to kill himself and play out of his mind for over half the year just to get the Spurs to win games. Tony was either injured or playing while injured, and he wasn't himself for a long stretch. Manu had to be the number one option on a lot of nights and it took its toll.

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    Ginobili was diagnosed a fibula stress reaction.
    2-3 weeks the prognosis.

    I did a little search.

    I found no medical en y related to a stress reaction.

    Rather, I found a lot about a reaction to a fibula stress fracture.

    3-6 weeks the prognosis.

    The original diagnosis was done on Feb 14-16th.

    4 weeks have passed.

    So, what was the more REALISTIC diagnosis?

    My bet.
    Two more weeks.

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    I'm just wondering how many peeps around here have at the very least certification to be able to properly evaluate injuries. Let me see as I read these posts...NOT ONE OF YOU.

    I was once a certified trainer so I'll a hazard a guess. I say that the guy is activated in April. That soreness he felt is actually to be expected, the osteoblasts (the thing that make the bones harden) works best on a person who is in great condition physically. Manu ain't elderly yet, so his should be working fine. Now the trick is to let him acclimate to the forces he puts his body through. Again, just guessing here but I think his main issue is that he is out of balance and overcompensates, which puts his extremities to the test. Having said that, the team(at least in their press statements) are handling it very well. This isn't a case like Bynum where LAL brass told the world last season that Bynum would be back in 4 weeks only to never return that season.
    GINOBILI WILL BE BACK...BOOK IT. 2005 Manu? Probably not but anything close instantly makes the Spurs that much more dangerous. As Tony Parker says, "We're going to be a beast!"

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    How did he us? By playing as well as he could on one leg? Some people here act like he wants to be hurt on purpose. Unbelievable. All anyone ever remembers is what happens last. I guess nobody remembers that he played very well against the Hornets and led the team in scoring and assists. Without him they wouldn't even have gotten to play LA.

    Also, he had to kill himself and play out of his mind for over half the year just to get the Spurs to win games. Tony was either injured or playing while injured, and he wasn't himself for a long stretch. Manu had to be the number one option on a lot of nights and it took its toll.
    Yep. No one remembers anything last season. Plus Manu finished top 10 in MVP voting.

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    I'd keep him out til a week before playoff start just to be extra safe. Spurs get only one more shot with manu this season and they should make it count.. let the leg rest as long as possible. Manu can probably shake off the rust reatively quickly buta recurrence of the injury would be a disaster.

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    Damn. I'm starting to wonder if the Spurs' "official" diagnosis was legit or if it was just a CIA cover up of their deadline dealings. The Spurs said 2-to-3 weeks and it's been more than three weeks now and Manu doesn't sound too close.

    With Duncan at about 75% and Manu struggling to return, the Spurs are going to have to get damn lucky with their health in the playoffs.

    especially if pop keeps saying they have to have manu

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    says who?


    the heat beat dallas in the finals
    on paper dallas was better

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    spurs can beat anyone in the west without manu
    lakers would be the biggest challenge though
    tp.mike or mason and duncan all have to have 4 good quarters
    all can do that in one game 4 times in a series

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    spurs can beat anyone in the west without manu
    lakers would be the biggest challenge though
    tp.mike or mason and duncan all have to have 4 good quarters
    all can do that in one game 4 times in a series
    If the Spurs had everyone 100% healthy but no Tony, would you say the same thing?

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    the heats had Wade,we have Finley and mason on our wings. No disrespect to Findog and Money Mason but, it is what it is.
    Manu is a diference maker,our other wings arent.
    no
    spurs have duncan instead of wade

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    If the Spurs had everyone 100% healthy but no Tony, would you say the same thing?
    spurs have mason and mike that can fill manu's role
    and gooden to bring that energy

    spurs have a rookie hill
    hill proved himself in regular season without tp
    not sure what he would be starting point guard in playoffs

    not sure I would want mason starting point guard in playoffs
    backup maybe

    and manu is not a starter for point guard
    backup point ok not starter

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    spurs can beat anyone in the west without manu
    lakers would be the biggest challenge though
    tp.mike or mason and duncan all have to have 4 good quarters
    all can do that in one game 4 times in a series
    Idiot... Spurs can't do in the playoffs with a weak bench, Manu is so special because not only he's the Spurs 6th man, he makes those hobos coming off the bench better.

    Manu is the key... if he doesn't come back soon Spurs are going to be ed.

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    and everyone said tamba rays would not go to boston and beat them either

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    did you bet on the redsox or rays in boston

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    spurs can beat anyone in the west without manu
    lakers would be the biggest challenge though
    tp.mike or mason and duncan all have to have 4 good quarters
    all can do that in one game 4 times in a series
    2 questions for Ducks.

    Are you crazy from long-term Yuma, Arizona heat?

    And

    Have you ever played ORGANIZED basketball at any level higher than grade-school?

    With Ginobili, they don't have to have 4 good quarters every time. He is THE ONLY player that the Spurs have, REPEAT, the only player they have who doesn't need any setup to create scoring opps. That is why it is mostly him, not Tim, not Tony, not Roger, not Mike that has the ball is in his hands with seconds to go. In short, he is the closest thing the Spurs have to a Kobe or DWade. In fact, it's not a stretch to say that he's probably, when on his game and healthy, the 3rd best SG in the league.

    If Tim & Tony play their NORMAL type output games, and we can get a combined 30 points from Mason, Bonner, & Finley, then all the Spurs need is for Manu to be hot for that epic 4th quarter. If that all happens, then the Lakers can be beat, Bynum or no Bynum.

    Not having a quality SG to break down the Lakers will make the series eerily reminiscent of 2002 when Tony & Tim played pretty well but went down swinging 4-1 to the Lakers. Steve Smith and any other SG after Mario Elie or before Manu didn't have X aka The Juice that makes X-Factors that important.

    RECOGNIZE!!!

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    Maybe for muscle, but not bone which i would think is the case here.
    Woot!!! I made a sig!!!

    And back on topic, Gooden better ing rape tonight, so I forget how Manu hasn't played for weeks.

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    Manu: "Don't believe everthing you read in the news".

    I hope

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    <<

    How did he us? By playing as well as he could on one leg? Some people here act like he wants to be hurt on purpose. Unbelievable. All anyone ever remembers is what happens last. I guess nobody remembers that he played very well against the Hornets and led the team in scoring and assists. Without him they wouldn't even have gotten to play LA.

    Also, he had to kill himself and play out of his mind for over half the year just to get the Spurs to win games. Tony was either injured or playing while injured, and he wasn't himself for a long stretch. Manu had to be the number one option on a lot of nights and it took its toll.
    Yep. No one remembers anything last season. Plus Manu finished top 10 in MVP voting.

    Stop being groupies !! Everyone with half a brain knows what manu has done for us and what player he is. The fact is that his health issues are becoming annoying and i definitely knows that it's not his fault.

    but i'm a spurs fan and i don't want to see this team lose many times in the PO because the poor manu was hurt. he better gets back and be good, we need him.




    it's not just what Pop sais. It is what it is, we have to have Manu to be contenders,without him I doubt we can get out of the 1st round of the POs.
    we don't have many chances to win without manu, tony and tim at a good level. that's right. but the fact that manu is as usual the biggest concern is becoming tiresome.


    spurs can beat anyone in the west without manu
    lakers would be the biggest challenge though
    tp.mike or mason and duncan all have to have 4 good quarters
    all can do that in one game 4 times in a series
    maybe we can beat anyone without manu in a good day. but we all know we're better with him. so what are you trying to proove ?

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    Manu traveled with the team to Houston and Oklahoma which means he's getting much much better. Manu will be 100% back Book it!

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    spurs have mason and mike that can fill manu's role
    and gooden to bring that energy

    spurs have a rookie hill
    hill proved himself in regular season without tp
    not sure what he would be starting point guard in playoffs

    not sure I would want mason starting point guard in playoffs
    backup maybe

    and manu is not a starter for point guard
    backup point ok not starter
    So based on the three minutes you've seen Gooden in a Spurs jersey, you think he's qualified to bring what Manu brings. Wow. That's a new low, even for you.

    But then again, you think Boris Diaw is better than Manu, so maybe not.

    I guess it doesn't matter to you that the last three times we've beaten the Lakers (in January this year, Game 3 last year's playoffs, and January last year) that Manu was the MVP of each of those games.

    Even when he shot 3-of-16 in a game against LA, he was the best player because he completely took over the game with his energy, he had eight steals and he inspired everyone else in the building.

    You're never gonna get it, Ducks. It's not all about points. Manu is like the team's MacGyver. He is the problem solver. Whatever the team needs, whether it's scoring, a big rebound, a steal, a pass, hustle, energy to wake them up, he gives them. In soccer you'd call him a "talisman." He's the team's talisman. He makes everyone else fit together and play.

    If you think Gooden can replace him with a couple of rebounds or that Finley can because he made a few threes, you don't understand basketball and you never will.

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