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  1. 03-25-2009 #76
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    I'm also one of those that looks forward to Kill Bill's posts. He may get easily excited but his knowledge of European players is top notch
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  2. 03-25-2009 #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronMexican
    Rubio will be the #1 pick next year.

    he will be a very good player.
    Hey, dumbass, Ricky Rubio wont be the #1 pick.
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  3. 03-25-2009 #78
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    Rubio will be as good as the system/team he goes too. If he winds up in Memphis, he could be another lost talent.
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  4. 03-25-2009 #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple & Gold
    I'm also one of those that looks forward to Kill Bill's posts. He may get easily excited but his knowledge of European players is top notch
    True, but he can be extremely biased, to the point of being nonsensical. His delusions of grandeur with the financial ability of Greek teams and Spanoulis' basketball skills are hilarious.

    Llull still has 2 more years in his contract with Real, he won't join the NBA before 2011. And I thing he'll be gone when the Lakers have their 2nd round pick (or do you have an additional one?).

    Expectations about Rubio are too high. He still has to develop a big part of his game. But his upside is fantastic. It'll be very important for him to land in the right situation.
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  5. 03-25-2009 #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrovejo
    True, but he can be extremely biased, to the point of being nonsensical. His delusions of grandeur with the financial ability of Greek teams and Spanoulis' basketball skills are hilarious.

    Llull still has 2 more years in his contract with Real, he won't join the NBA before 2011. And I thing he'll be gone when the Lakers have their 2nd round pick (or do you have an additional one?).

    Expectations about Rubio are too high. He still has to develop a big part of his game. But his upside is fantastic. It'll be very important for him to land in the right situation.
    Supposedly they will let him go. Lakers have 2 second round picks (Bobcats pick) and their late first rounder. He will go early in the second round. Lakers would need to spend their first rounder on him. Not sure about his contract details and what he can do to get out of it. But of course that's always a concern when dealing with European players.

    Rubio will be good he's still way young and I'm sure he will keep working on his game. He's a solid prospect.
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  6. 03-25-2009 #81
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    Right now I would take Rubio over Spanoulis because he's young. Hasn't fully developed his game yet and has tremendous upside.
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  7. 03-25-2009 #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indazone
    Right now I would take Rubio over Spanoulis because he's young. Hasn't fully developed his game yet and has tremendous upside.
    Rubio will be great. But I am not sure if you can compare him to Spanoulis or Papaloukas or Diamantidis or Prigioni yet. Right now they are all better than him.

    However Diamantidis is not a real point guard. He is a combo guard in offense and even actually more like a small forward in defense. Papaloukas is a point forward actually in offense and he cannot guard any point guards or any small forwards either so he is a shooting guard on defense. Both of them have their weaknesses there and would be an issue in NBA.

    Prigioni and Spanoulis are definitely point guards in both offense and defense like Rubio and they are still better than him.
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  8. 03-25-2009 #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
    Please enough already. Rudy is a nice player to have on your team and he can be a role player in a top club. You know he the championship type role player or whatever. But he is NOTHING compared to Rubio.

    Rudy is an average player in talent and his basketball skills are incomplete.

    Yes I give you that he is a much more athletic and better shooter than Rubio that is definitely true. But believe me as overall players Rubio is way better. Overall offense Rubio is better for sure and in defense Rubio is so much better it is a joke to even compare them.

    Believe me Rubio is easily better than Rudy is. Rudy is a role player in Blazers, he is a role player in Spanish national team and he would be a role player in any of the biggest Euroleague clubs.

    Give Rubio some time and and he can be much more than that. He is also a role player in same scenarios now so it is closer in time now but still even now he is better.

    Rubio is better now that Rudy and Calderon. Because as an overall player his offense is better and his defense is so much much better by a lot. So now Rubio is better than them and give him a few years and it won't even be close.


    Did you read my post? I said that Rudy is better now! Ricky might be better eventually, but there's no freaking way he's better now.
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  9. 03-25-2009 #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlongII


    Did you read my post? I said that Rudy is better now! Ricky might be better eventually, but there's no freaking way he's better now.
    I am sorry but Rubio is better right now. Right now he is better than Rudy and Calderon. He is not as good as some other point guards in Euroleague like i said yet as Papaloukas, Prigioni, Spanoulis, Diamantidis, probably also Mcintyre, but he is yes right now better than Rudy and Calderon.

    You see all of the above players are in fact better than Rudy and Calderon right now.
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  10. 03-25-2009 #85
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    lol. Rudy Fernandez is the best sg from europe.
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  11. 03-25-2009 #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
    I am sorry but Rubio is better right now. Right now he is better than Rudy and Calderon. He is not as good as some other point guards in Euroleague like i said yet as Papaloukas, Prigioni, Spanoulis, Diamantidis, probably also Mcintyre, but he is yes right now better than Rudy and Calderon.

    You see all of the above players are in fact better than Rudy and Calderon right now.
    That must be why Rudy played more minutes in the Olympics than Ricky...

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  12. 03-25-2009 #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthkiller
    lol. Rudy Fernandez is the best sg from europe.
    No. Not even was he the best SG in Spain. In Spain Rakocevic > Rudy
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  13. 03-25-2009 #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlongII
    That must be why Rudy played more minutes in the Olympics than Ricky...

    Rudy is a good player do not get me wrong but you really look stupid putting him with or even better than Rubio. Rudy is in no way in the class of player like Rubio.
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  14. 03-25-2009 #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlongII
    That must be why Rudy played more minutes in the Olympics than Ricky...

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  15. 03-25-2009 #90
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    I think some here have never ever see any European players ever play a single game other than if they were in the NBA.
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  16. 03-26-2009 #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill_Bill_Pana
    I think some here have never ever see any European players ever play a single game other than if they were in the NBA.
    So, what channels on Comcast do you watch your Euroball?
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  17. 03-26-2009 #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDMVPDPOY
    1 good game and you wanna use the first pick on him?

    fiba rules dont even translate to nba transition of play......
    Go back to sleep.....
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