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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    you know it that exactly? are you one of the 4 twin brothers, or the guy who ed her and made her pregnant for the 4 dudes?
    It was in the court filings. When she went in for an examination, they found manjuice from four different guys in the last 24 hours.

    She said she went up to Kobe's hotel room for an "autograph".

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    Former Hornets GM Bob Bass lives with the decision of trading Kobe Bryant for Vlade Divac
    by Jimmy Smith

    Armed with the knowledge that the Hornets were in the market for a post player, West made a pre-draft deal with Bass in which the Hornets would draft Bryant if he were still available and later swap his rights to Los Angeles for Divac.

    "We had the deal, " Bass said,
    "but who in the world thought (Bryant) would be there at No. 13? And the Lakers, regardless of what they said after they had (Bryant), but they wanted space on the cap to sign Shaquille O'Neal. And devious as I am, I thought it would be a good way to get Shaquille out of the Eastern Conference. If we'd have gotten Michael and some others out, that would have been something."
    What the writer failed to mention was that Bob Bass was Jerry West anytime Jerry needed help making the Lakers stronger. Before the Kobe trade, Jerry got Bob to trade Mychal Thompson for Laker's Peter Guudmenson, Frank Brikowski andsome other stiff. And the year the Spur's joined the NBA, 1976, the Spurs first trade was to send their #1 pick in the 1977 draft to LA for the rights to a washed up ABA point guard named Mack Calvin. So begn the man-love affair between West and Bass.

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    She was a tramp, and Mamba did her like any true player would have. Bend her over, give it to her anal, and bust a nut in her face... NOW LEAVE!!!
    Players don't cry and snitch in the interrogation room, homie.

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    Kobe was the Lebron of 1996.
    Which is why he went 12th as opposed to being the consensus top pick in the most loaded draft in two decades. Do you even believe half the crap you post?

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    I do not know why lakers fans still believe that 4 different male's ejaculation crap. It's a rumor, get over it. He raped the girl.

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    Which is why he went 12th as opposed to being the consensus top pick in the most loaded draft in two decades. Do you even believe half the crap you post?
    High School players like Kobe & KG paved the way for LeBron's #1. GM's were still gun-shy.

    Let history be your guide.

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    High School players like Kobe & KG paved the way for LeBron's #1. GM's were still gun-shy.

    Let history be your guide.
    Allanon, how many guys came to the pros straight out of high school before Kobe and KG? Three? I count Moses Malone, Bill Willoughby and Darryl Dawkins. If you can think of any more, let me know. There is no discernible trend based on that small of a sample size.

    Kobe was regarded as a very good prospect coming out of Lower Merion. No shame in that. But LeBron was the greatest perimeter prospect in the history of high school basketball. The only comparison you can make is with big men- specifically, Wilt and Lew Alcindor. LeBron would have gone #1 had Kobe never existed.

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    Kobe, regardless of Phil/Shaq, was destined to become one of the greatest players. And you could see that in high school. What separates Kobe from the rest is his work ethic. Even in high school and throughout his career, Kobe has worked relentlessly to become the best.

    Kobe was already playing against NBA players during the summer time I think when he was 16/17.
    Revisionist history at its finest. Unlike KG, Kobe had the grades to go to college, yet chose not to. In addition to having no jumper, he was considered too small to be a 2 and didn't have the ball handling skills to be a point guard. Teams weren't sure what they could do with him, how he would develop, and how long it would take before he could contribute. All excellent reasons to pass on him. It was Kobe's work ethic that made him great, but nobody knew that when he was 17. He had a better chance to become the next Harold Miner than he did to become what he is.

    Kobe was the Lebron of 1996.
    Rookie year:

    Kobe 7.6 ppg, 1.3 apg, 1.9 rpg
    Lebron 20.9 ppg, 5.9 apg, 5.5 rpg

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    Rookie year:

    Kobe 7.6 ppg, 1.3 apg, 1.9 rpg
    Lebron 20.9 ppg, 5.9 apg, 5.5 rpg


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    Revisionist history at its finest. Unlike KG, Kobe had the grades to go to college, yet chose not to. In addition to having no jumper, he was considered too small to be a 2 and didn't have the ball handling skills to be a point guard. Teams weren't sure what they could do with him, how he would develop, and how long it would take before he could contribute. All excellent reasons to pass on him. It was Kobe's work ethic that made him great, but nobody knew that when he was 17. He had a better chance to become the next Harold Miner than he did to become what he is.
    Nope. That's just anti-Kobe bias at its finest. Kobe's been 6'6 since high school. Size he could bulk up, you can't teach height.

    Didn't have the ball handling skills to be a point guard? Hahah, that's a joke. Kobe had too much ball-handling skills and was considered to be too flashy.

    The only knock on Kobe was his jumper. LeBron didn't have a jumper during the draft and he still doesn't have one now.

    Rookie year:

    Kobe 7.6 ppg, 1.3 apg, 1.9 rpg
    Lebron 20.9 ppg, 5.9 apg, 5.5 rpg
    Teammates. Kobe was brought up slowly. LeBron was brought in to be the man. Put Kobe on some crappy team in his rookie season and he'd average 20 a game.

    Look at playing time, then come back with some stats.

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    LeBron didn't have a jumper during the draft and he still doesn't have one now.
    LeBron from three-point range, 2008-09: 114-of-339, 33.6 percent

    Kobe from three-point range, 2008-09: 100-of-291, 34.4 percent

    For a guy who doesn't have a jump shot, LeBron isn't exactly eating Kobe's dust from long range, is he?

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    Allanon, how many guys came to the pros straight out of high school before Kobe and KG? Three? I count Moses Malone, Bill Willoughby and Darryl Dawkins. If you can think of any more, let me know. There is no discernible trend based on that small of a sample size.
    How many of those went on to become the best basketball player in the NBA? Guys like Kobe and KG set the trend for great high schoolers.

    It's no coincidence that LeBron got selected #1 right after Kobe had completed his 3-peat.

    Kobe was regarded as a very good prospect coming out of Lower Merion. No shame in that. But LeBron was the greatest perimeter prospect in the history of high school basketball. The only comparison you can make is with big men- specifically, Wilt and Lew Alcindor. LeBron would have gone #1 had Kobe never existed.
    We don't know that. If Kobe and KG were busts, who knows if LeBron would have gone #1.

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    LeBron from three-point range, 2008-09: 114-of-339, 33.6 percent

    Kobe from three-point range, 2008-09: 100-of-291, 34.4 percent
    LeBron is improving but still isn't good in the mid-range. And from 3pt is still not as good as Kobe.

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    Nope. That's just anti-Kobe bias at its finest. Kobe's been 6'6 since high school. Size he could bulk up, you can't teach height.
    And at the time, 6'6" wasn't considered adequate. Jordan's that height, but expecting a kid coming out of high school to be Jordan wasn't really a good way to use a lottery pick or to build a team.

    Didn't have the ball handling skills to be a point guard? Hahah, that's a joke. Kobe had too much ball-handling skills and was considered to be too flashy.
    Flash has nothing to do with being a point guard. Kobe's flash resulted in turnovers.

    The only knock on Kobe was his jumper. LeBron didn't have a jumper during the draft and he still doesn't have one now.
    I'm telling you what the scouting report on Kobe was at the time. I watched that draft on TV. I didn't make any of the above up. Kobe's one of the best three point shooters in the league, it's true, but that just bloats his scoring numbers if you're comparing him to James.

    Look at playing time, then come back with some stats.
    Basketball reference has per minute stats, and the first year Kobe put up stats similar to Lebron's was '02-03, his seventh year in the league and fifth year as a starter.

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    I do not know why lakers fans still believe that 4 different male's ejaculation crap. It's a rumor, get over it. He raped the girl.
    "The accuser arrived at the hospital wearing panties with someone else's semen and sperm in them, not that of Mr. Bryant, correct?" Mackey asked.

    "That's correct," Winters responded.

    "Was a Caucasian hair found in the woman's pubic hair?" Mackey asked.

    "Yes," Winters replied.

    Mackey suggested injuries found during the woman's exam could have come from having repeated sex, a contention she first made in court last week.

    The defense contends the tests on the underpants provide Bryant with "compelling evidence of innocence."

    "Bryant was checked at the hospital in his rape examination and there were no signs of any struggle," said 7NEWS Investgates reporter Tony Kovalesk

    The prosecution of basketball superstar Kobe Bryant on rape charges was on the verge of collapse last night as prosecution sources told several media outlets they would ask the judge to drop the charges as early as today.

    A DNA test traced hair and semen found in her underwear to someone other than Mr Bryant, indicating she had had more than one sexual partner around the time of the alleged assault.

    The prosecution fought doggedly to keep that evidence out of the courtroom, arguing that the alleged victim's sexual habits and history were her own private business
    Last edited by Allanon; 03-29-2009 at 11:32 AM.

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    We don't know that. If Kobe and KG were busts, who knows if LeBron would have gone #1.
    Kwame Brown was a bust at #1, yet that didn't scare off anyone in regards to LeBron.

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    sheesh Allanon...you've been in this forum for so long and you're trying to defend Kobe from these guy. Just be lucky we get to watch Kobe 82 games a year and let them hate. Whos the one missing out...not us.

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    Kwame Brown was a bust at #1, yet that didn't scare off anyone in regards to LeBron.
    Kwame Brown was Jordan's prospect and not on anybodys radar.

    Bass said himself he was surprised Kobe was still there at #13.

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    sheesh Allanon...you've been in this forum for so long and you're trying to defend Kobe from these guy. Just be lucky we get to watch Kobe 82 games a year and let them hate. Whos the one missing out...not us.
    Hahah, true, but it's always fun to go fishin'

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    Bass said himself he was surprised Kobe was still there at #13.
    Probably because most of the teams picking 1-12 knew Kobe wouldn't play for them. Do you think Kobe would have wanted to play in a place like Cleveland? He would have bolted at the first opportunity.

    Like I said, I have no regrets about the Cavaliers passing on Kobe. I'm just glad we got Big Z out of that draft.

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    Sons, as hot as your chick Jamie is, I betcha even she wouldn't have spooge from 4 different dudes in her in 24 hours.

    Just b/c she's a ,doesn't mean he didn't rape her.

    Players don't cry and snitch in the interrogation room, homie.

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    Probably because most of the teams picking 1-12 knew Kobe wouldn't play for them. Do you think Kobe would have wanted to play in a place like Cleveland? He would have bolted at the first opportunity.

    Like I said, I have no regrets about the Cavaliers passing on Kobe. I'm just glad we got Big Z out of that draft.
    speaking of "bolted"..where do you think James is gonna be in 2 years?

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    speaking of "bolted"..where do you think James is gonna be in 2 years?
    Probably on a podium holding the Larry O'Brien.

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    speaking of "bolted"..where do you think James is gonna be in 2 years?
    In Public Square, right next to the Soldiers & Sailors Monument, brandishing our second consecutive Larry O'Brien. Nice of you to ask.

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    And at the time, 6'6" wasn't considered adequate. Jordan's that height, but expecting a kid coming out of high school to be Jordan wasn't really a good way to use a lottery pick or to build a team.
    6'6 at that time was OVERSIZED or at worst standard size for a shooting guard. Even now 6'6 or < is standard for a shooting guard.

    6'7 and above is the realm of Small Forwards and Kobe does spend time at Small Forward.

    Flash has nothing to do with being a point guard. Kobe's flash resulted in turnovers.
    Tony Parker has a gripload of turnovers, as does Nash. That does not make them bad point guards.

    Basketball reference has per minute stats, and the first year Kobe put up stats similar to Lebron's was '02-03, his seventh year in the league and fifth year as a starter.
    Let's talk about minutes.

    LeBron rookie year: Started all 79 of his games, 40 minutes

    Kobe rookie year: Started 6 games, averaged 15 minutes

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