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    now he is really scarping the bottom because nobody gives a about K2. If anything put a picture of Tim Couch, Courtney Brown and Gerrard Warren up there

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    The 95 Indians went 100-44 and still lost the World Series. That team had: 4 Hall of Famers, deep pitching, best hitting in the league and still lost. This lineup lost the world Series:

    Kenny Lofton- All Star
    Omar Vizquel- All Star
    Carlos Bearga (hit .319 with 17 homers)- All Star
    Albert Belle (50 homers. 50 doubles)- All Star
    Eddie Murray- Hall of Famer
    Jim Thome - All Star
    Manny Ramirez- Hall of Famer
    Paul Sorrento
    Sandy Alomar Jr.- All Star

    Pitching
    Orel Hershisher- 3xAll Star
    Dennis Martínez -4x All Star
    Ken Hill -1x All Star
    Charles Nagy- 3x All Star

    Jose Mesa led the league in Saves
    Lofton led the league in Stolen Bases
    Belle led in RBIs and Home Runs

    Won the Central by 30 games
    Yeah, I remember that like it was yesterday. I still can't believe that. I still remember listening to those World Series games on the radio on the way home from my high school football games. Oh yeah, and who can forget how Jose Mesa blew the World Series for the Indians in 1997?

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    The 95 Indians went 100-44 and still lost the World Series. That team had: 4 Hall of Famers, deep pitching, best hitting in the league and still lost. This lineup lost the world Series:

    Kenny Lofton- All Star
    Omar Vizquel- All Star
    Carlos Bearga (hit .319 with 17 homers)- All Star
    Albert Belle (50 homers. 50 doubles)- All Star
    Eddie Murray- Hall of Famer
    Jim Thome - All Star
    Manny Ramirez- Hall of Famer
    Paul Sorrento
    Sandy Alomar Jr.- All Star

    Pitching
    Orel Hershisher- 3xAll Star
    Dennis Martínez -4x All Star
    Ken Hill -1x All Star
    Charles Nagy- 3x All Star

    Jose Mesa led the league in Saves
    Lofton led the league in Stolen Bases
    Belle led in RBIs and Home Runs

    Won the Central by 30 games
    We were cheated by the umpires in the World Series. They were giving Glavine and Maddux an extra foot on the outside corner.

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    oh yeah i remember that year, how did we get there again?

    Spurs finally repeat? NO! LOLZ

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    oh yeah i remember that year, how did we get there again?

    Spurs finally repeat? NO! LOLZ


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    2006

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    What a ty year for both Spurs and Mavs fans

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    I'll admit this I have much faith & respect for Lebron ...havent been a BIG believer ion the cavs over the Celts but now I question can the Celts do this Id stil rather face the cavs than celts in a playoff (though revenge would be sweet) because the celts are tougher and proven and would rather face the Magic than the cavs their two wins were BS and with Nelson NO WAY they beat us with Alston ...
    Cavs congrats on HCA you have stayed consistently focused much of teh year well deserved ..Lebron may not be better than Kobe yet but he is the MVP ...Wade also deserves much love as well Kobe should be 3rd

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    It'll happen. Refs will make damn sure of it.

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    I wish I were a Cavs fan since SD has made it a mission to reverse-jinx them with these threads.

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    And I agree with ThunderDan 2007 was not a choke job. Even before the finals people were calling that team the worst team to ever reach the finals. In order for a team to be a choker that team has to lose what they were supposed to win. Most people predicted a sweep that year.

    1995 for baseball I can't even remember but 1997 wasn't a choke job either. The Marlins are great at being cheap for 5-6 years and then buying another world series. Their team was stacked that year, and of course they sold the entire team off after the series.

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    And I agree with ThunderDan 2007 was not a choke job. Even before the finals people were calling that team the worst team to ever reach the finals. In order for a team to be a choker that team has to lose what they were supposed to win. Most people predicted a sweep that year.
    Agree. Cavaliers had no chance to win that series. Had they won, it would have been the greatest upset in Finals history by far. Our boys just went up against superior manpower and superior firepower and got beat. I didn't like getting swept, but that's the way it goes sometimes. They overachieved just to get to that point.

    1995 for baseball I can't even remember but 1997 wasn't a choke job either. The Marlins are great at being cheap for 5-6 years and then buying another world series. Their team was stacked that year, and of course they sold the entire team off after the series
    1997 was a choke. Not only did the Tribe blow Game 7 in the bottom of the ninth, they also blew two games at the Jake in which they had multiple-run leads late. They should have won it in five. '95 was a combination of inexperience vs. experience, Carlos Baerga being a black hole (three times making the last out with Albert Belle on deck in one-run games) bull home-plate umpiring, and having to start the series in Atlanta. I was so happy to see the Tribe in the World Series I almost didn't care that they lost.

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    1997 was a choke. Not only did the Tribe blow Game 7 in the bottom of the ninth, they also blew two games at the Jake in which they had multiple-run leads late. They should have won it in five. '95 was a combination of inexperience vs. experience, Carlos Baerga being a black hole (three times making the last out with Albert Belle on deck in one-run games) bull home-plate umpiring, and having to start the series in Atlanta. I was so happy to see the Tribe in the World Series I almost didn't care that they lost.
    Well I wish I could say I remembered the 1997 WS but I was only 7

    All I remember was Florida having a stacked ass rotation and a team they basically bought.

    As far as buying a world series goes, the 2001 D-Backs are still the best. They had to buy Johnson and Schilling. Not only did they buy Louis Gonzalez and Steve Finley, they also had to buy the steroids for those two to have the fluke career year they had.

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    Well I wish I could say I remembered the 1997 WS but I was only 7

    All I remember was Florida having a stacked ass rotation and a team they basically bought.
    Oh, they had a good team, no doubt. Bonilla, Moises Alou, Renteria, Charles Johnson, Kevin Brown, Robb Nen, etc.

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    Cavs are resting starters - I don't expect them to win tonight.

    SD just trying to make the easiest call of the year so he can try to save face.

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    The actual choke in 1997 was Tony Fernandez letting a ball go through his legs in the 11th inning which would have been a double play ball to end the inning. That put the runner on base, extended the inning...and well, you know the rest.

    I don't think the 97 World Series gets enough credit in the land of all time chokes. Everyone talks about the Drive and Fumble, but the 97 World Series is right up there. I mean you have one of the best closers in the game choking, and then Tony Fernandez, a Gold Glove 2nd Baseman letting a ball go through his legs.

    I can't even find the footage on video anywhere



    this is the only photo I could find. But there are books written about the other chokes. This one is forgotten when it is actually probably the best of all. Check out those mom pants Tony is sporting

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    For the record, I cried when the Indians lost the World Series in 1997. I was just turning 12 and all I wanted was for my grandpa to see the Indians win a World Series before he died. He had season tickets right behind the dugout for as long as I could remember. I went to probably 20-25 games a year, including every Sunday with him. I used to go up to the old stadium and watch them but not even care about who won or anything. When I got older in 1994 I started to understand it and follow it more. Anyways, in 1995 I wasn't that upset, but in 1997 I felt like it was the last shot at them winning while he was still alive....well good news and bad news. The good news is he is still alive, but the bad news is out favorite team is still the Indians and they are not winning anything any time soon. We still have tickets and actually took him to the Yankees game made infamous by Lebron wearing a Yankees hat. So I guess you could say we were close in 2007 and would of won if we had beaten Boston 1 more time, but there is nothing like Game Seven, Bottom of the 9th with 2 outs to go.

    and I didn't cry in 2007. I went to Game 6 when Beckett pitched like a 3 hit shutout- I was frankly really stoned and drunk sitting in the very last section of the stadium, so I could have given a about my feelings after that one. And Game 7 (which I still think was fixed becuase they squeezed Carmona in the 1st so Drew hit that Grand Slam) I just got really pissed for watching the game on my friends great Plasma Tv, which is also a jinx box because every time I watch a game on there my team loses. Happened the whole NBA Finals, 3 Ohio State National Championships, Game 3 of the Yanks series, and Game 1 of the Boston series. Still to this day its a jinx. Game Seven vs. the Celtics last year? Watched it on that TV. To this day I won't watch it on there

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    TD, anything involving the Marlins will never get talked about . The 2003 Yankees had no business blowing a 2-1 series lead on Florida but the 2003 ALCS gets so much attention that the Yankees are treated like the 2003 WS champs.

    If you walked up to 10 people who fancied themselves as baseball fans and asked, "What team is the only team besides the Red Sox and the Yankees to have won more than 1 WS in the last 12 years?", I doubt 3 would be able to tell you.

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    For the record, I cried when the Indians lost the World Series in 1997.
    You'd think that's bad but when I was 11 I cried because the Suns traded Jason Kidd in what was one of the most underrated re trades in human history.

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    All I know is that I'm prepared this year to face the letdown when the Cavs fail to win somehow. I know it won't happen in a normal cir stance, that something memorable will have to happen. It's such a sinking feeling to be a Cleveland fan. You have to keep everything in perspective. That is why we are so sensitive to the Lebron to New York talks. Has there been anything concrete about him leaving? no, unless you call wearing a hat his way of showing, but that is stupid. But Cleveland fans find the negative and slowly try and prepare themselves for the let down to come. Like going into the playoffs, I'm thinking "this should be fun to see the Cavs this year" but I'm also thinking that we probably won't win, and to be ready when we lose in the 2nd round or some other bull . Same goes for 2010, I haven't seen any reason for Lebron to leave, yet, I have already prepared myself for him leaving

    That is what makes Cleveland fans different. The glass is always half empty, always.

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    The actual choke in 1997 was Tony Fernandez letting a ball go through his legs in the 11th inning which would have been a double play ball to end the inning. That put the runner on base, extended the inning...and well, you know the rest.

    I don't think the 97 World Series gets enough credit in the land of all time chokes. Everyone talks about the Drive and Fumble, but the 97 World Series is right up there. I mean you have one of the best closers in the game choking, and then Tony Fernandez, a Gold Glove 2nd Baseman letting a ball go through his legs.

    I can't even find the footage on video anywhere



    this is the only photo I could find. But there are books written about the other chokes. This one is forgotten when it is actually probably the best of all. Check out those mom pants Tony is sporting
    Tony did hit the GW home run in Game 6 of the ALCS off Armando Benitez.

    The real choke came in the top of the ninth, when the Tribe led 2-1, had first and third with one out and couldn't get the insurance run in. That was the killer.

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    All I know is that I'm prepared this year to face the letdown when the Cavs fail to win somehow. I know it won't happen in a normal cir stance, that something memorable will have to happen. It's such a sinking feeling to be a Cleveland fan. You have to keep everything in perspective. That is why we are so sensitive to the Lebron to New York talks. Has there been anything concrete about him leaving? no, unless you call wearing a hat his way of showing, but that is stupid. But Cleveland fans find the negative and slowly try and prepare themselves for the let down to come. Like going into the playoffs, I'm thinking "this should be fun to see the Cavs this year" but I'm also thinking that we probably won't win, and to be ready when we lose in the 2nd round or some other bull . Same goes for 2010, I haven't seen any reason for Lebron to leave, yet, I have already prepared myself for him leaving

    That is what makes Cleveland fans different. The glass is always half empty, always.
    Muhahahahahhaahahahahahahaha

    actually as a Mav fan i feel the same way

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    i guess teams from South Florida that are underdogs continue to haunt Cleveland and Dallas fans alike when they meet in the Finals of the respective sports

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