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    Greece. They have like 10 or 15 players in the NBA


    Oh wait...
    You ing dumbass. He only lists maybe 2 French players that can even make national team of Greece. Some of you are such unreal morons.

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    More heart maybe, more BBIQ seems too. But not more talent. In the last Olympics we had a six men team with no backups for the point guard position nor the 4 and 5. And we played some mayor minutes two guys that spent all his career in the Argie league (which isn't very good outside the young talents, 'cause all the players go to play to Europe or the NBA).
    Did you see the french big men these last years ?

    hey, this is the best one:


    hopefully Noah and Turiaf could do some good things, but it's still safe to say that the offensive talent is not their best skill.

    Give me Oberto and Scola, i'll take it.

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    If the Spurs want to risk their investment, then that's their prerogative. The NT shouldn't get to call the shots with another businesses money. Should they?

    Thank you.

    But I think the Spurs were nuts for clearing him anyways.

    Should've shut him down, operated on the ankle, rehab in the damn summer.

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    Don't hold back MB, tell us how you really feel.

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    ducks does not approve of TP playing
    if he is injured before playing ducks would be really upset
    pop did not publically tell tp not to play like he did with manu
    there is a difference
    still tp SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING
    ducks has been busy at work today
    ducks had to fix a bia computer in town
    ducks has a job sometimes he can post here at work

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    I'm on the fence with this, but for the sake of argument, professional teams often require their players to sign contracts that explicitly forbid them from doing things like riding motorcycles or skiing, because of the risk of injury. Could they not also forbid their athletes to play certain summer tournaments?

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    You cant compare that, everything is relative. but yeah, eurobasket is compe ive and hard. Anyway, i think its good for international nba players to keep playing for their countries. Thats their duty, and the nba teams should stop objecting. Injuries happen everywhere, wether at their club or nt, happens. What's the best thing, than playing for your country??
    Yes but NBA American fans cannot accept this. Look at all these "crap tournament" and "garbage tournament" things they say here. They are so arrogant and ignorant all the time with these comments. There is probably 8-10 Euro teams in any time that can win gold medal in Americas or Asian tournament. Those are crap level tournaments not Eurobasket.

    Look at World Championship with so many teams that would be blown out of games in Eurobasket. And then some here brings up poor level Euro clubs and says that makes it "scrub tournament" but even mid level teams in Olympics could probably not make it past group stage of Eurobasket. Croatia is really an average team in Eurobasket but in Olympics they are one of the stronger ones.

    So all arguments that you can play Olympics because it is good not Eurobasket because it sucks are stupid and foolish and wrong. Just say you do not want him to play but stop making up bull . Not everyone has such a POS regions tournament like Americas do.

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    Where the is ducks, is what I want to know.
    see ducks earlier post


    ducks does not approve of TP playing
    if he is injured before playing ducks would be really upset
    pop did not publically tell tp not to play like he did with manu
    there is a difference
    still tp SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING
    ducks has been busy at work today
    ducks had to fix a bia computer in town
    ducks has a job sometimes he can post here at work

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    lol NBA only fan disease. Other than Parker not one of them would even be that good of a player for best Euro national teams. Several of them would have no chance in of even making a roster for best Euro teams. Please.

    Parker of course great, Diaw good for that level but nothing more than that and the rest a bunch of average or suck ass players at that level.
    The Euroleague MVP would barely be a All-Star player in the NBA (remember a guy named Ginobili, he owned everything in Europe). Batum and Ajinca are unknown quan ies at this point but Noah or Turiaf coudn't make it in Europe... yeah right... just stop with the Euroleague BS.

    Coming back to the question at hand:
    - there are a lot more countries, therefore when the US NT is 10 NBA guys, it's obviously much more in Europe
    - the level is much higher. When trying to qualify for the Olympics it's not a 3-game tournament and basketball world-powers like Puerto Rico and the Bahamas... France has to go to the Euro championship pre-tournament, then maybe to the Euro tournament, then maybe to the Olympics. The path is much longer. That's why it's important to start now.
    - I agree that guys from the US just don't get it, after all the US league always crowns the "World Champion"

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    Exactly, Serbia especially, although they arent doing so well recently.
    Yes Serbia has biggest talent pool of all.

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    I'm on the fence with this, but for the sake of argument, professional teams often require their players to sign contracts that explicitly forbid them from doing things like riding motorcycles or skiing, because of the risk of injury. Could they not also forbid their athletes to play certain summer tournaments?

    No because re ed David Stern and the idiotic NBA won't let the teams do it.

    If they did, the Mavericks would be the VERY first to do it.

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    France NT has clearly underachieved in the past but they have enough talent to be a major team in Europe.

    This summer, they will have a new coach and lots of players are having a good season. It could work.

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    No because re ed David Stern and the idiotic NBA won't let the teams do it.

    If they did, the Mavericks would be the VERY first to do it.
    If you go to a new restaurant and the food/service is bad, do you continue to go there over and over?

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    Parker should see how Manu's decision last summer came back to haunt the team and sit out.
    Exactly. Here we go again.

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    I'm on the fence with this, but for the sake of argument, professional teams often require their players to sign contracts that explicitly forbid them from doing things like riding motorcycles or skiing, because of the risk of injury. Could they not also forbid their athletes to play certain summer tournaments?
    No the NBA has signed an agreement with FIBA and can't forbid its players to play with their NT.
    A NBA team isn't even allowed to say to one of its players "we don't want you to play with your NT".

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    well hill homers should be thrilled
    this insures hill will get playing time at begining of year

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    Exactly. Here we go again.
    Manu was hurt playing for the Spurs before entering the Olympics. Parker is healthy as of now. I am willing to wager that if Parker gets hurt in the playoffs, he will not be playing for France.

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    More heart maybe, more BBIQ seems too. But not more talent. In the last Olympics we had a six men team with no backups for the point guard position nor the 4 and 5. And we played some mayor minutes two guys that spent all his career in the Argie league (which isn't very good outside the young talents, 'cause all the players go to play to Europe or the NBA).
    Most of the French players from NBA suck. They play in NBA so what? Ones being mentioned other than Parker and Diaw are nothing special. I really do not think any of them could even be close to make roster of Spain or Greece.

    Argentina team in Olympics did not have depth but main players like Manu, Scola, Prigioni, Nocioni, Delfino this is far superior to anything France can come up with IMO. Any of them will be 2nd or 3rd best player for France.

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    Yes but NBA American fans cannot accept this. Look at all these "crap tournament" and "garbage tournament" things they say here. They are so arrogant and ignorant all the time with these comments. There is probably 8-10 Euro teams in any time that can win gold medal in Americas or Asian tournament. Those are crap level tournaments not Eurobasket.

    Look at World Championship with so many teams that would be blown out of games in Eurobasket. And then some here brings up poor level Euro clubs and says that makes it "scrub tournament" but even mid level teams in Olympics could probably not make it past group stage of Eurobasket. Croatia is really an average team in Eurobasket but in Olympics they are one of the stronger ones.

    So all arguments that you can play Olympics because it is good not Eurobasket because it sucks are stupid and foolish and wrong. Just say you do not want him to play but stop making up bull . Not everyone has such a POS regions tournament like Americas do.
    Americans are stupid and arrogant. Got it. Eurologue rocks and Greece is the greatest country on Earth. But that really has jack-all to do with whether or not it's wise for Tony to compromise his health (and his ability to contribute to the team that pays his rent, however lowly and untalented the Spurs are) by going toe-to-toe with the greatest basketball talent in the world during the summer.

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    The guy is French and loves his country.

    Is that so difficult to understand?

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    true. if we had to bring 20 names of good players, we would be in bad position.

    but to have a compe ive team, you only really need 7 or 8 good players. We have them. We should do better. We were 5th in the 2006 world championship (without tony) and 2nd in the 2000 Olympics.
    France, Italy, Turkey, Serbia, Greece, Slovenia are all under achieving. They should all be better than they have played. France should be able to challenge at least to qualify for Olympics. But still against so many ones Spain, Greece, Lithuania, Serbia, Croatia, Turkey should improve now Slovenia says they will send better team is very hard to accomplish.

    I think top 4 teams from Europe only can make Olympics. Now also British team is getting stronger and also Italy.

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    No the NBA has signed an agreement with FIBA and can't forbid its players to play with their NT.
    A NBA team isn't even allowed to say to one of its players "we don't want you to play with your NT".
    I'm having flashbacks to my last parent-teacher conference when the teacher said to us, "I'm not a doctor. I can't diagnose your child. I'm not allowed to say I think he should be on ADD medication."

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