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    Does playing for a big market team like LA or Boston really add that much respect ala Mo Williams?? Has playing for the Jazz really made much of a difference in getting Deron the attention he deserves?

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    He should have been one last year, but they let B-Roy go because Portland got hot in December. Dumb. So, I'd say yes. If he'd have been playing for LA in 07-08 he would've been an allstar. They should've just given it to him this year even though he was hurt. IMO, it should be the best players who go, not the guys who happened to get through the pre-season without getting their ankles exploded by dumbass rookie defenders.

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    all star selection is overrated.

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    Does playing for a big market team like LA or Boston really add that much respect ala Mo Williams?? Has playing for the Jazz really made much of a difference in getting Deron the attention he deserves?
    i think so. there bigger market teams(chicago, l.a., new york, boston) they all have the media attention and coverage that smaller market teams dont have. if williams played in new york he'd be looked at as a superstar prob. or alot more hyped up

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    The problem is DWill plays in the West, he would be an All Star by now if he was in the East.

    CP3/Kobe/Tracy McGrady/Tony Parker/Steve Nash/Brandon Roy

    Kobe/Tracy McGrady have usually gotten the popular vote. Steve Nash was a two time MVP. And then you have CP3/Tony Parker, who gets taken out?

    6 guys but only 4 spots.

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    Nash and TP and Roy. And if the league was smart they'd get rid of the fan vote.

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    Nash and TP and Roy. And if the league was smart they'd get rid of the fan vote.
    Steve Nash was MVP in 2005 & 2006, he had to automatically get an All Star selection in 2007 because he was reigning MVP. In, 2008 he was still putting up great numbers and was the prior MVP.

    Kobe/T-Mac/CP3/Steve Nash took all 4 spots up to 2008. Then you have Finals MVP Tony Parker, he had to get some ASG in.

    Only in 2009 did Dwill really have a chance, but he was injured so Brandon Roy was chosen.

    Even playing on the Lakers, it wouldn't have made a differece, there's still only 4 guard spots on the West All Star team and it's hard to pick DWill over the two MVP's Steve Nash and Tony Parker before 2009.
    Last edited by Allanon; 04-22-2009 at 11:24 AM.

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    Then you have Finals MVP Tony Parker, he had to get some ASG in.
    I thought that was dumb anyway. A token nod. There was some debate about whether or not he deserved it over Duncan. Obviously, he played great, but I'll never ever believe that Tony Parker was more valuable to a championship spurs team than Tim Duncan.

    And Roy shouldn't have gone last year. The Blazers had that really hot streak in December before falling apart, but nobody realized they fell apart, so they gave it to Roy, but he wasn't as good as Deron last year. Plain and simple.

    And all in all, I don't really care. The ASG is meaningless. But Deron is the first or second best pg in the league. I understand there's only so many spots, but it semi-irks me that nobody's found a way to get him in the game over TP, a not as good Nash or Brandon Roy.

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    Steve Nash was MVP in 2005 & 2006, he had to automatically get an All Star selection in 2007 because he was reigning MVP.
    Or because he was putting up better numbers than either of his first two MVP seasons and wound up being 2nd in MVP voting? Could that possibly have something to do with it?

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    Nash's MVPs were a stupid precedent to set anyways.

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    Or because he was putting up better numbers than either of his first two MVP seasons and wound up being 2nd in MVP voting? Could that possibly have something to do with it?
    It all comes with the territory. Regardless of his stats, he's an automatic ASG selection as the reigning MVP.

    I can't recall a time when a healthy, reigning MVP wasn't in the ASG.

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    son its just because he plays in the West which is stacked with star guards. If he played in the East he would have a better chance. I think D-Will deserved to make the team LAST YEAR, but this year he was questionable.

    Regardless, you can't use the "small market" excuse. Look at my Hornets ... we are the smallest market team in the NBA and Paul gets tons of media attention (and WELL DESERVED). Not to mention David West has made the All Star team twice. Also, look at Orlando.... they are the second smallest market and Dwight Howard is treated like a God in the media. They also produced a couple All Stars this year as well.

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    David West didn't deserve those All Star nominations

    Deron > CP Whistle

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    David West didn't deserve those All Star nominations

    Deron > CP Whistle
    LOL as expected from your ass. LMAO at this sissy

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    And all in all, I don't really care. The ASG is meaningless. But Deron is the first or second best pg in the league. I understand there's only so many spots, but it semi-irks me that nobody's found a way to get him in the game over TP, a not as good Nash or Brandon Roy.
    I agree that D-Will is #1 or #2 PG in the NBA and should have gotten an All Star already...just bad cir stances.

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    And then you have CP3/Tony Parker, who gets taken out?
    D-Will > Parker

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    David West didn't deserve those All Star nominations

    Deron > CP Whistle
    CP3 is absolutely amazing, and has a chance to be one of, if not the greatest PG the NBA has ever seen. He's definitely one of, if not the most skilled PG the league has seen. There really isn't any skill the guy doesn't have for a PG, and he's proven it. The only thing left is for him to lead a team to a couple les. The other accolades will come with it.

    David West on the other hand... has a nice midrange jumper. But I don't think any player in the league has gotten carried more by a superstar teammate than David West. Without CP3, West is very mediocre.

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    Tony Parker/CP3/DWill are all the #1 point guards. I can't really say one is better than the other.

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    I thought that was dumb anyway. A token nod. There was some debate about whether or not he deserved it over Duncan. Obviously, he played great, but I'll never ever believe that Tony Parker was more valuable to a championship spurs team than Tim Duncan.
    Mike Brown made the decision that year to let Tony Parker beat them and he did just that, the reason it was a sweep was because Parker stayed consistent and Brown never changed the strategy

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    Tony Parker/CP3/DWill are all the #1 point guards. I can't really say one is better than the other.
    Tony Parker isn't even the #1 player on his team. That team still revolves around Tim Duncan.

    Give me both of them before Parker.

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    I thought that was dumb anyway. A token nod. There was some debate about whether or not he deserved it over Duncan. Obviously, he played great, but I'll never ever believe that Tony Parker was more valuable to a championship spurs team than Tim Duncan.
    I couldn't agree more. Parker is a heck of a player, but Tim Duncan is still the MVP of that team. Simply take Parker off the team, and the Spurs can still make the playoffs. Take Duncan off, and they end up in a struggle to make the 8th seed, likely missing out.

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    Tony Parker isn't even the #1 player on his team. That team still revolves around Tim Duncan.

    Give me both of them before Parker.
    I think this year, Tony Parker has been the best Spur player.

    But CP3/Dwill picked ahead of Tony Parker is fine. To me it's 3 #1 guys, 1a. 1b. 1c, the order doesn't really matter, they're all damn good.

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    I think this year, Tony Parker has been the best Spur player.

    But CP3/Dwill picked ahead of Tony Parker is fine. To me it's 3 #1 guys, 1a. 1b. 1c, the order doesn't really matter, they're all damn good.
    I agree they are all very good. But CP3 and DWill are better at running a set offense, have better passing and shooting skills, are better defenders, and play with crappier teams. IMO there is no question those guys are better basketball players than TP.

    I think there is CP3 and D-Will as the top tier PGs, then you have guys like Parker, Nash, Billups, etc...

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    I agree they are all very good. But CP3 and DWill are better at running a set offense, have better passing and shooting skills, are better defenders, and play with crappier teams. IMO there is no question those guys are better basketball players than TP.

    I think there is CP3 and D-Will as the top tier PGs, then you have guys like Parker, Nash, Billups, etc...
    I can't really argue against that; except that I don't think he should be put in the same class with Nash/Billups.

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    Tony Parker isn't even the #1 player on his team. That team still revolves around Tim Duncan.

    Give me both of them before Parker.
    parker's beat both of them in the playoffs, against CP3 last playoffs he had a fantastic series.

    fail

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