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    Who wasn't bullied as a kid at one point or another.

    I'm putting my kid through the Agoge.


    I remember my first fight, if you can call it that.

    This big redheaded kid with freckles was always picking on me, during class, in the hallways. I was in 2nd grade I think.

    Anyways, this one time after lunch when we were all outside during recess, he came up to me and pushed me. Me and my friends were out near the tetherball pole. I didn't want to look like a little punk in front of them, so I swung. I was only as tall as his shoulders, so the only target I had other than his chest was his nuts. So I punched so hard, they must've gone up into his chest. That was the last time he bullied me.

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    Another life lesson I will hope to pass on is sometimes you just have to take from other people. Really, most of the time because if you go off you really don't gain anything from it.

    If you can keep the big picture in mind, it makes it fairly easy to endure the b.s. This is hard for a kid to understand, but realistically most things that happen in elem-high school don't mean anything once you graduate. Nothing.

    Also, don't ever make fun of fat chicks or anyone else early in life because some will turn out to be hot or good friends once they grow up At that age you've got a small social pool, you've got to keep your options open.

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    Taking is one thing. Being abused and picked on are another.

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    Also, don't ever make fun of fat chicks early in life because some will turn out to be hot once they grow up
    And the reverse is also true. I've seen at least 5-6 girls from highschool lately and they ALL blew up. They used to be the popular girls, cheerleaders, volleyball players. And to think EVERYONE wanted them back in the day. Now they're fat and/or pregnant with quite a few children already.

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    Taking is one thing. Being abused and picked on are another.
    I concur. My girls do know how to defend themselves though.

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    And the reverse is also true. I've seen at least 5-6 girls from highschool lately and they ALL blew up. They used to be the popular girls, cheerleaders, volleyball players. And to think EVERYONE wanted them back in the day. Now they're fat and/or pregnant with quite a few children already.
    Seriously man. The best strategy is to keep an eye out for the ugly ducklings because the girls who had to develop personalities/work ethic first because of their goofiness will round out to be the total package once they hit jr-sr year.

    I've seriously thought about making a handbook for jr.

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    I was a late bloomer and grabbed a young wife.

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    I got bullied when I was a kid... until I stopped it...

    It's just the way that all mammals establish pecking order...

    You aren't ever going to stop the behavior as a whole and using a sad story like this as an example only exasperates people.

    Bullying can only be ended by the kid being bullied... or another peer protecting the kid being bullied.

    The only thing bullies understand is pain.

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    Seriously man. The best strategy is to keep an eye out for the ugly ducklings because the girls who had to develop personalities/work ethic first because of their goofiness will round out to be the total package once they hit jr-sr year.

    I've seriously thought about making a handbook for jr.
    Yup, it's always the quiet ones!

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    I moved from Hampton Va, to San Antonio when I was in the 7th grade..............first day of school, two kids were bullying and picking on me................I dropped my books, punched one of those ers in the mouth, and the next day everyone was my friend. Sometimes a kid needs to go that extra mile to gain some respect. Not that I condone fighting............Im just sayin.

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    While this story is very sad, how do we know that the bullying is why he killed himself. His parents are looking for a reason or an explanation, but we do not really know that this is it.

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    Sometimes a kid needs to go that extra mile to gain some respect. Not that I condone fighting............Im just sayin.
    being politically correct nowadays. I don't condone violence, but sometimes words and talking it out don't work.

    For instance, my wife and I took my son (4) to a local public park last weekend. There were these kids, I think brother and sister just sitting on the double slides. My son wanted to go on them. He tried the "excuse me" approach and nothing. I went over there and said out loud to him, "just ask them to move so you can have fun too". He responded, "but they're being ugly". To which the older boy(8 or 9) on the slide responded to him, without noticing me behind him, "you're ugly". And my proudest moment as a father came soon after when my son said back, "Your Mom's ugly!". I busted out laughing, and the 2 kids slid down and never came back to that side of the playground.

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    being politically correct nowadays. I don't condone violence, but sometimes words and talking it out don't work.

    For instance, my wife and i took my son (4) to a local public park last weekend. There were these kids, i think brother and sister just sitting on the double slides. My son wanted to go on them. He tried the "excuse me" approach and nothing. I went over there and said out loud to him, "just ask them to move so you can have fun too". He responded, "but they're being ugly". To which the older boy(8 or 9) on the slide responded to him, without noticing me behind him, "you're ugly". And my proudest moment as a father came soon after when my son said back, "your mom's ugly!". I busted out laughing, and the 2 kids slid down and never came back to that side of the playground.
    awesome!

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    being politically correct nowadays. I don't condone violence, but sometimes words and talking it out don't work.

    For instance, my wife and I took my son (4) to a local public park last weekend. There were these kids, I think brother and sister just sitting on the double slides. My son wanted to go on them. He tried the "excuse me" approach and nothing. I went over there and said out loud to him, "just ask them to move so you can have fun too". He responded, "but they're being ugly". To which the older boy(8 or 9) on the slide responded to him, without noticing me behind him, "you're ugly". And my proudest moment as a father came soon after when my son said back, "Your Mom's ugly!". I busted out laughing, and the 2 kids slid down and never came back to that side of the playground.
    That's the greatest thing I've read on SpursTalk all day.

    Post Of The Day nominee.

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    Yeah, it was pissing me off that kids can be brought up to be soooo ing rude these days. I wasn't asking for the playground to be completely empty for him, it is a public park. But at least have the decency to let people use the slide for sliding. If you want to sit, use a ing bench. And their parent's, I notice later, were only a few feet away bbqing. Did they come over and tell their kids to let the other kids play, nope.

    We're the kinda parents that if my kid is using one of the demo kiosks of the consoles at Gamestop, we'll understand when he's had his share and let someone else use it. Parents these days use like that as babysitters. And in addition, raise their kids with this kinda ed up sense of en lement.

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    That's the greatest thing I've read on SpursTalk all day.

    Post Of The Day nominee.
    My wife wasn't all too happy with it, but I explained to her that he needs to speak up like that sometimes or else he's gonna get walked all over now and later in life. My boy isn't gonna be raised a punk. He won't go after a kid unless he's attacked first. He understands that he's supposed to use the following order.

    1. Say, "Leave me alone."
    2. Say, "Leave me alone or I'm gonna tell on you."
    3. Say, "Stop already!"
    4. Say, "Need a bandaid?"

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    My wife wasn't all too happy with it, but I explained to her that he needs to speak up like that sometimes or else he's gonna get walked all over now and later in life. My boy isn't gonna be raised a punk. He won't go after a kid unless he's attacked first. He understands that he's supposed to use the following order.

    1. Say, "Leave me alone."
    2. Say, "Leave me alone or I'm gonna tell on you."
    3. Say, "Stop already!"
    4. Say, "Need a bandaid?"
    If she wants your kid to grow up to be a doormat, that's her business. You did the right thing.

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    Breaking out a can of whoop ass always works.

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    Yeah, it was pissing me off that kids can be brought up to be soooo ing rude these days. I wasn't asking for the playground to be completely empty for him, it is a public park. But at least have the decency to let people use the slide for sliding. If you want to sit, use a ing bench. And their parent's, I notice later, were only a few feet away bbqing. Did they come over and tell their kids to let the other kids play, nope.

    We're the kinda parents that if my kid is using one of the demo kiosks of the consoles at Gamestop, we'll understand when he's had his share and let someone else use it. Parents these days use like that as babysitters. And in addition, raise their kids with this kinda ed up sense of en lement.
    I don't know how many times I've had the "no one owes you " conversation.

    It wasn't until my late 20's before I realized how little you can expect from people. It was sobering to say the least.

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    I don't know how many times I've had the "no one owes you " conversation.

    It wasn't until my late 20's before I realized how little you can expect from people. It was sobering to say the least.
    The parents that give their kids the sense of en lement are setting them up for failure. You are en led to what you earn. No more, no less.

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    Something like that happened to my 2 year nephew a couple weeks ago. You know those little playgrounds in fast food joints? Well he was playing there and there were some other kids, as he was climbing a stair a 5 year old kid wanted to get ahead of him and started pulling him by his feet. When me nephew went to the ground he stoop up and proceeded to punch the boy who left crying towards his parents. They looked as if they were ready to jump on the kid, until they saw how small my nephew was and chose to leave. While I don't condone violence I have to admit that it helped me feel at ease knowing that my nephew wouldn't let kids behave like that towards him, he is about to start school, so I feel better about it.

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    It's not just bullying like it was in the past, though. With the internet, a lot of that abuse continues even after the kids have left school. It can be a never-ending barrage of insults and misconceptions, and with networking sites it reaches even farther. Kids that aren't even in your school can know about it.
    See also. It's not just kids.

    As much as I love the interwebs, and as much time as I spend on a site like this, I really do think that the prevalence of this social networking thing has had a very detrimental effect on the way people interact in general. We have all, and this is especially true of kids young enough to have had this be a regular/automatic part of life, become so accustomed to modes of detached communication that there is almost no consideration of other people's feelings anymore. In addition to drastically altering the nature of the comments made and increasing their cruelty, it's likely also increased the number of actual bullies by providing a voice to people who would otherwise hold their tongues out of a sense of politeness.

    The odd combination of anonymity and public display provided by the internet has created a crazy environment in which we see making fun of people as not only a right, but almost a duty. Everything can be explained away by the lack of human contact in the exchange, as well. If someone posts pictures for friends and family, then, hey, they were just asking for it. If someone is personally offended or hurt by comments made online, they're further ridiculed for not being able to take a joke.

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    I got bullied when I was a kid... until I stopped it...

    It's just the way that all mammals establish pecking order...

    You aren't ever going to stop the behavior as a whole and using a sad story like this as an example only exasperates people.

    Bullying can only be ended by the kid being bullied... or another peer protecting the kid being bullied.

    The only thing bullies understand is pain.
    Actually, this particular type of bullying can be drastically reduced if we, as a society, stop teaching a concept of masculinity that encourages violence and rigid adherence to established rules and gender roles. Little boys who don't fit those roles become easy targets of other little boys feeling a need to be tough in order to prove that they do fit them.

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    And in addition, raise their kids with this kinda ed up sense of en lement.
    I don't know how many times I've had the "no one owes you " conversation.

    It wasn't until my late 20's before I realized how little you can expect from people. It was sobering to say the least.
    The parents that give their kids the sense of en lement are setting them up for failure. You are en led to what you earn. No more, no less.
    There are few phrases in the English language that I've come to hate quite as much as "I deserve..."

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