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    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    Well, I was wrong.

    I have no qualms admitting to it.
    if you'd read my original post then it would've saved you from showing your ass.

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    honey, if god cared about you, he wouldn't allow the anti-christ to lead you.

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    It's interesting how the most avid atheists are usually from families that were ultra-religious.

    I think if you have religion forced on you, religion that doesn't make intuitive sense, it's easy to equate religion with God and turn away from both. Most atheists I know tend to defend their lack of belief with the same fervor in which a lot of the fundamentalist Christians defend their faith.

    I did my own soul searching at one point in my life and I know there is a higher power that exists. I'm not a big believer in religion, but I am a big believer in God. Unfortunately most Christian religions have taken the spirituality out of the equation and replaced it with a study in literature. As a result, the current presence and guidance from God and spirituality is taken out of the equation and God feels distant and removed, or not existant at all to a lot of folks.

    So I understand the plight of the atheist. I wish there was a way to convey what I know to be real to you all without it being taken in an offensive way, because there is a lot of peace to be had from that knowledge.

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    Rack da Choppa!

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    It's interesting how the most avid atheists are usually from families that were ultra-religious.

    I think if you have religion forced on you, religion that doesn't make intuitive sense, it's easy to equate religion with God and turn away from both. Most atheists I know tend to defend their lack of belief with the same fervor in which a lot of the fundamentalist Christians defend their faith.

    I did my own soul searching at one point in my life and I know there is a higher power that exists. I'm not a big believer in religion, but I am a big believer in God. Unfortunately most Christian religions have taken the spirituality out of the equation and replaced it with a study in literature. As a result, the current presence and guidance from God and spirituality is taken out of the equation and God feels distant and removed, or not existant at all to a lot of folks.

    So I understand the plight of the atheist. I wish there was a way to convey what I know to be real to you all without it being taken in an offensive way, because there is a lot of peace to be had from that knowledge.
    Excellent post.

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    You didn't answer the question.

    So, I'll ask it once again:
    Jesus Himself answered your question: " I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me—"

    The common demoninator and the only thing that will distinguish the saved from those who are eternally lost is Jesus.

    The Bible tells us exactly what is going to take place.



    Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.
    And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life.
    The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
    The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire.
    The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

    "He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."
    He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
    How does one overcome? Glad you asked.

    "Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
    "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God,
    and the authority of his Christ.
    For the accuser of our brothers,
    who accuses them before our God day and night,
    has been hurled down.
    They overcame him
    by the blood of the Lamb
    and by the word of their testimony;
    they did not love their lives so much
    as to shrink from death. "
    " And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved"
    " If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
    For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."


    John 10:14; Revelation 20:11-15; Revelation 21:5-8; Revelation 12:10-11; Joel 2:32; Romans 10:9-10



    LongrrrR: Revelation 14:14-20- I think I know where the Left Behind Authors got their book le from.

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    It's interesting how the most avid atheists are usually from families that were ultra-religious.

    I think if you have religion forced on you, religion that doesn't make intuitive sense, it's easy to equate religion with God and turn away from both. Most atheists I know tend to defend their lack of belief with the same fervor in which a lot of the fundamentalist Christians defend their faith.

    I did my own soul searching at one point in my life and I know there is a higher power that exists. I'm not a big believer in religion, but I am a big believer in God. Unfortunately most Christian religions have taken the spirituality out of the equation and replaced it with a study in literature. As a result, the current presence and guidance from God and spirituality is taken out of the equation and God feels distant and removed, or not existant at all to a lot of folks.

    So I understand the plight of the atheist. I wish there was a way to convey what I know to be real to you all without it being taken in an offensive way, because there is a lot of peace to be had from that knowledge.
    You have a point there, Jones.

    But, maybe some of those atheist friends of yours defend their lack of belief so vigorously because they're just so damn tired of religion being shoved down their throat. Maybe their just tired of being thought of as "stupid" and insane for their non-belief by religious lunatics.

    I'm more of an agnostic than an atheist. I'm not sure if there is a god, though I highly doubt it. However, if there should be a god, I wouldn't give a . What the kind of god allows all this hatred . . . this evil? For what purpose other than to make itself feel good and relevant?

    If there is a god, it's a pretty damn weak en y who obviously doesn't need us, so why are people so bent to kiss it's ass?

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    Jesus Himself answered your question: " I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me—"

    The common demoninator and the only thing that will distinguish the saved from those who are eternally lost is Jesus.

    The Bible tells us exactly what is going to take place.


    How does one overcome? Glad you asked.



    John 10:14; Revelation 20:11-15; Revelation 21:5-8; Revelation 12:10-11; Joel 2:32; Romans 10:9-10


    LongrrrR: Revelation 14:14-20- I think I know where the Left Behind Authors got their book le from.
    The Left Behind series is Gospel now?

    Interesting.

    Anyway, you still didn't answer the question. You did nothing but post scripture text.

    Do you not have your own mind?

    I want you to tell me in your own words what will happen to Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, etc., when the "Rapture" comes.

    Go ahead, formulate it in your own words if you can.

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    You have a point there, Jones.

    But, maybe some of those atheist friends of yours defend their lack of belief so vigorously because they're just so damn tired of religion being shoved down their throat. Maybe their just tired of being thought of as "stupid" and insane for their non-belief by religious lunatics.

    I'm more of an agnostic than an atheist. I'm not sure if there is a god, though I highly doubt it. However, if there should be a god, I wouldn't give a . What the kind of god allows all this hatred . . . this evil? For what purpose other than to make itself feel good and relevant?

    If there is a god, it's a pretty damn weak en y who obviously doesn't need us, so why are people so bent to kiss it's ass?
    maybe said religious people are tired of having atheism shoved down their throat, being thought of as "stupid" for their belief by non-religious lunatics

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    maybe said religious people are tired of having atheism shoved down their throat, being thought of as "stupid" for their belief by non-religious lunatics
    Christianity has been around for 2,000 years. People have been killed in it's name. Nations have been destroyed in its name. Entire races of people have almost been exterminated in its name during those 2,000 years.

    The atheist movement is an embryo compared to Christianity.

    Your post makes no sense.

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    The Left Behind series is Gospel now?

    Interesting.

    Anyway, you still didn't answer the question. You did nothing but post scripture text.

    Do you not have your own mind?

    I want you to tell me in your own words what will happen to Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, etc., when the "Rapture" comes.

    Go ahead, formulate it in your own words if you can.

    No, the series is not Gospel. Just a very interesting fiction series on how two devoted Christians think the prophecies of Revelation could play out.

    I believe the Rapture happens pre tribulation.

    So I think God is first going to Rapture all the believers in Christ from the earth.
    So at that point all the Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, and all those "Christians" who attend church but never committed to Jesus, will all be left behind.

    I believe the Anti Christ will rise to power. I believe plagues are going to hit the earth. I believe every person remaining will have as long as they survive to repent and choose Jesus.
    Those who do will have an eternal Heaven with God.

    Those who reject God and choose Satan and accept the mark of the beast will, sadly, go to .

    No one will accidentally end up in either Heaven or . Everyone will chose their eternal home for themselves.

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    Christianity has been around for 2,000 years. People have been killed in it's name. Nations have been destroyed in its name. Entire races of people have almost been exterminated in its name during those 2,000 years.


    yeah that has absolutely nothing to do with what i said

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    I did my own soul searching at one point in my life and I know there is a higher power that exists. I'm not a big believer in religion, but I am a big believer in God. Unfortunately most Christian religions have taken the spirituality out of the equation and replaced it with a study in literature. As a result, the current presence and guidance from God and spirituality is taken out of the equation and God feels distant and removed, or not existant at all to a lot of folks.

    So I understand the plight of the atheist. I wish there was a way to convey what I know to be real to you all without it being taken in an offensive way, because there is a lot of peace to be had from that knowledge.
    so basically you're saying you know God exists because you feel his presence on a spiritual level.

    if you aren't a believer in religion or studying literature, do you think the Bible is truth or lies?

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    oh, i get it. if you don't choose god, then it means you choose satan.

    hmmmmm, what to do, what to do....

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    oh, i get it. if you don't choose god, then it means you choose satan.

    hmmmmm, what to do, what to do....
    "I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live."
    ( Deut 30:19)

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    He was right.

    Church attendance has taken a huge dip and more people are turning away from Christianity every year. Eventually it will die out.

    Of course, it will be replaced by something else.
    on a side note, studies have shown that church goers have lower levels of stress.

    just sayin

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    Christianity has been around for 2,000 years. People have been killed in it's name. Nations have been destroyed in its name. Entire races of people have almost been exterminated in its name during those 2,000 years.

    The atheist movement is an embryo compared to Christianity.

    Your post makes no sense.
    Atheism has been around for just as long. Do you really think that everybody back then believed in God?

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    "I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live."
    ( Deut 30:19)
    why did god fail you and allow the antichrist to lead you?

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    Those who reject God and choose Satan and accept the mark of the beast will, sadly, go to .
    what if you accept the mark, but then change your mind the next day.......will it come off?

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    why did god fail you and allow the antichrist to lead you?
    Jesus has never failed me.

    I can tell you story after story of how Jesus has intervened wonderfully on my behalf, if you would like to hear.

    Can I explain God, Jesus, and the Bible to anyone's complete satisfaction? No- not even my own.
    But that is where faith comes in.

    God Honors faith.
    ( Hebrews 11 and my own life testify of that, as do the lives of countless others.)

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    angel hates direct questions.

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    what if you accept the mark, but then change your mind the next day.......will it come off?
    From my understanding of Scripture, there is no turning back once you chose the mark of the beast, offered by the Anti Christ.

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    who here chose the mark of the beast? have atheist chosen the mark of the beast?

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    From my understanding of Scripture, there is no turning back once you chose the mark of the beast, offered by the Anti Christ.
    really? so a murderer without the mark can still receive salvation in these times........

    but if you take the mark? you are eternally screwed, even if you have done nothing but do what "Caesar" tells you to do.

    The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
    The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire.
    what fair judge would ever say that murder is a less offense than taking a "mark" that the government leader says to take?

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    Jesus has never failed me.

    I can tell you story after story of how Jesus has intervened wonderfully on my behalf, if you would like to hear.

    Can I explain God, Jesus, and the Bible to anyone's complete satisfaction? No- not even my own.
    But that is where faith comes in.

    God Honors faith.
    ( Hebrews 11 and my own life testify of that, as do the lives of countless others.)
    here's the great thing about prayers:

    when prayer apparently works, it is the faith in God that moved the mountain...

    when prayer apparently doesn't work, it was God's will that it wasn't answered.

    It's a win/win for the preacher.

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