Atheism on the rise in every single US state.

[I. Hustle]

I never said it was a new way of thinking, nimrod.

The movement is new, comparatively.

Of course there has been people who either questioned the existence of god or flat out denied it, but there was never a movement for atheism until relatively recently.

It has certainly not been around longer than Christianity.

OK so if people are questioning the existence of a god or denying it and instead preach a form of science or believing only in what you can see or feel is that not a movement?
The movement is not new it just has a name now.

It's funny that you would use a biblical name to try to insult me (Nimrod). Are you walking the fence there P dub?

[peewee's lovechild]

It's just funny that all your arguments are based on either Google or Wikipedia.

?

Richard Dawkins started the New Atheist Movement no more than a decade ago. There was also a similar movement years prior to that.

You don't need google for that if you know who he is.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Suuuuuuuure buddy

[baseline bum]

probably? i thought the science was settled. nice fail by the athiests. funny that dawkins headed this.

probably


what a campaign

You thought wrong, which is par for your posts. If you ever listen to anything Dawkins says, he's technically an agnostic because no one has proved 100% that there is no god.

[peewee's lovechild]

I am not one who is into debates.

But this question occurred to me...

What does it say/ show of other peoples' gods if their gods cannot/ do not act to save them from the wrath of God?

You seem to make the assumption that other peoples are at the mercy of the Christian god.

Reminds me of this account:

Once again, you show that you are not given to rational thought.

You depend only on biblical text.

[Trainwreck2100]

Atheism is widely accepted????

than 2000 years ago, yes now quit half assing it and read the whole thread. Instead of talking out of your ass.

[peewee's lovechild]

OK so if people are questioning the existence of a god or denying it and instead preach a form of science or believing only in what you can see or feel is that not a movement?
The movement is not new it just has a name now.

It's funny that you would use a biblical name to try to insult me (Nimrod). Are you walking the fence there P dub?

im·rod (nĭm'rŏd')
n.

Informal A person regarded as silly, foolish, or stupid.

As for your movement comment, like I said before, atheism as a movement is relatively new.

[angel_luv]

Once again, you show that you are not given to rational thought.

You depend only on biblical text.

Not true.

I gave a Biblical (also historical since that event took place) illustration of the very legitimate question I posed to you.


If all the other gods you mentioned are so wonderful and great, wouldn't they make their presence known and felt on behalf of their people?

[I. Hustle]

And yet, you are posting here.

Stupid ass.

I didn't call every person that is posting in here stupid. Just people like you.

I don't understand why people can't debate without trying to put down the other person. I just like calling people idiots which is why I am in here. I am not arguing for either side.

[LnGrrrR]

Atheists always defend their atheism so....I don't know....what's the word....religiously.

I think it's more of a defense of the value of critical thinking.

[baseline bum]

No, the series is not Gospel. Just a very interesting fiction series on how two devoted Christians think the prophecies of Revelation could play out.

I believe the Rapture happens pre tribulation.

So I think God is first going to Rapture all the believers in Christ from the earth.
So at that point all the Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, and all those "Christians" who attend church but never committed to Jesus, will all be left behind.

I believe the Anti Christ will rise to power. I believe plagues are going to hit the earth. I believe every person remaining will have as long as they survive to repent and choose Jesus.
Those who do will have an eternal Heaven with God.

Those who reject God and choose Satan and accept the mark of the beast will, sadly, go to .

No one will accidentally end up in either Heaven or . Everyone will chose their eternal home for themselves.

Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. -- George Carlin

[sonic21]

Atheism is widely accepted????

200 years ago it was not accepted to be an atheist because you couldn’t explain creation and other things, but now it's ok to be an atheist.

[resistanze]

These kinda threads prove that in the end, it had nothing to do with religion. Humans are simply obnoxious and insufferable whether they believe in a man in the sky or not.

[peewee's lovechild]

Not true.

I gave a Biblical (also historical since that event took place) illustration of the question I posed to you.


If all the other gods you mentioned are so wonderful and great, wouldn't they make their presence known and felt on behalf of their people?

The Christian god hasn't made its presence known to anyone.

[I. Hustle]

As for your movement comment, like I said before, atheism as a movement is relatively new.

I still disagree but hey it's cool



Where do you think the name Nimrod originated? Why do you think it stands for silly or foolish? Just sayin'

[angel_luv]

I think it's more of a defense of the value of critical thinking.

It has been my experience that when your perspective is eternal, your priorities change.

Man's critical thinking is God given and therefore has its use.

However, critical thinking ought not to be the ultimate factor in decision making.
God's Word should always come first.

[Phenomanul]

relax.

no way in do i think you're as bat crazy as angel.

Though the escatological doctrines may differ depending on who you ask... I still believe in most of what angel_luv wrote down. It's all in the Bible.

The rapture of the Church...
A final battle at the valley of Megiddo...

The fact that many biblical prophecies are coming true...

Worldwide currency? Even 100 years ago people would believed that to be a far-fetched concept... all of these economic problems will eventually push us there... the concept is no longer as far-fetched...

For that matter, the formation of The European Union... a step in that direction... was prophesized in the Bible as a 'reconstruction' of the Roman empire (part of it anyways)...

The return of Jewish people to Israel...

Despite all the cultural, 'religious', racial, and social-economic differences that divide our world today, can anyone honestly believe that one man will eventually rise to power to lead and unite the entire globe...??? Amidst pestilence, famine, and war the world will one day grow weary of so much strife... one day they will clamor for "peace" at any cost... it is on that day the profesized anti-Christ will rise to power and make a covenant with Israel and the world... and 'everyone' will embrace him for it... Is that so far-fetched??? Not in today's world - where most everyone is up-to-speed with the lastest news, no matter what part of the world it originated in...

Crazy? nah... angel_luv is one of the boldest members in this forum... She always states what she beliefs, despite the mockery. She is gracious and curteous enough to answer your questions despite the fact that you all are getting a rise out of her responses... Does she hate you all for it? No... it compels her to bestow even more grace.... What's worse, is that you all fail to realize that she is more true to herself than you all have ever demonstrated about yourselves...

Would I take her approach? Probably not... I'm a bit more fiery...

Most importantly I do believe that... one day, "every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is LORD!"

Personally, when that day comes... I would rather make that confession as part of the the heavenly battlecry... rather than as a member of the defeated and conquered.

[ALVAREZ6]

It's interesting how the most avid atheists are usually from families that were ultra-religious.

What study is this based on? Just from my experience, I know tons of people who are from super-religious families that have never questioned religion to the extent that others might have because they don't want to upset their parents. The majority of people I know that are agnostic or atheist have come from catholic families, but most not ultra-religious at all...just a relaxed religious family that keeps it going for tradition purposes. Of course, there's a little bit of everything though.

Unfortunately most Christian religions have taken the spirituality out of the equation and replaced it with a study in literature. As a result, the current presence and guidance from God and spirituality is taken out of the equation and God feels distant and removed, or not existant at all to a lot of folks.

So I understand the plight of the atheist. I wish there was a way to convey what I know to be real to you all without it being taken in an offensive way, because there is a lot of peace to be had from that knowledge.

And there are many people who understand this all while not really believing in a formal god...understanding spirituality and living in peace.

[LnGrrrR]

Have you not heard of the book "Soul Harvest" from the Left Behind Series by Tim Lahaye and Jerry Jenkins? You should read it. Awesome book; wonderful series.

In answer to your question:
The Pharoah of Egypt who, dealt with Moses, experienced ten incredible plauges on him and his people, and yet still his heart hardened.

People witnessed Jesus' miracles firsthand, yet they did not all believe Jesus is who He said He was.


The same will unfortunately be true regarding some atheists in the Rapture.
Some will repent and turn to God, but not all.
Revelation 9- if you care to read more.

Ok, I'll give you that point. However, I do not think it was that the Pharaoah disbelieved in God, but that he thought his God was greater, the "True" God, if you would. (I could be wrong, fuzzy on that part.)

You know, come to think of it, what is the point of the "End Times"? Why would God need us all to end our lives and come with him? If it's to experience a better life, then why all the people before the End Times who were born and died normally? It just doesn't make sense to me.

[Phenomanul]

The Christian god hasn't made its presence known to anyone.

You know very well that this statement can't be proven either way.

[I. Hustle]

These kinda threads prove that in the end, it had nothing to do with religion. Humans are simply obnoxious and insufferable whether they believe in a man in the sky or not.

[IronMexican]

Jesus has never failed me.

I can tell you story after story of how Jesus has intervened wonderfully on my behalf, if you would like to hear.

Can I explain God, Jesus, and the Bible to anyone's complete satisfaction? No- not even my own.
But that is where faith comes in.

God Honors faith.
( Hebrews 11 and my own life testify of that, as do the lives of countless others.)

Then why are the Spurs down 3-1?

[Trainwreck2100]

200 years ago it was not accepted to be an atheist because you couldn’t explain creation and other things, but now it's ok to be an atheist.

glad somebody can ing read

[sonic21]

Then why are the Spurs down 3-1?

because manu doesn't believe in god

[ALVAREZ6]

than 2000 years ago, yes now quit half assing it and read the whole thread. Instead of talking out of your ass.

WTF are you talking about half assing it I've read, I understand it's more accepted now as we have more laws and protections in our government than 2000 years ago, different cultures, etc.

But I think calling it widely accepted, in this country, is kind of misleading, as if people view atheists equally coming from religious backgrounds.