We're talking Scott the coach not the GM. And no, he wasn't the #1 reason they signed Peja unless you're telling me he is the defacto GM and tells the owner what to do, which he doesn't.
Even then that is easily solved by hiring a real general manager and the owner actually caring about winning; which the Hornet's owner doesn't. All he cares about is payroll.
Yes fire B-Scott, problem solved dude!
Bull . Two final appearances with a team that really had no business there in the first place. No one expected NO to grab the 2nd seed last season. His teams play hard on the defensive end. Firing Scott at this point will only make the Hornets worse and that's the reality.
son you are ing CLUELESS .... stop watching old video tapes of Scott's Laker days and lay off hugging his nuts so much. the guy is a bum of a coach. there is a good reason why Kidd ran him out of NJ and hopefully Paul will run him out of N.O. ..... the ONLY reason he won that fluke "coach of the year" award last season was 100% because of the media attention around Chris Paul ...
So are you saying NBA head coaches have no say in personnel moves? It's well do ented that Byron Scott pushed for the Hornets to sign Peja because of his ties as an assistant coach in Sacramento.
Not what I said. But, Chandler's issues do not absolve Byron Scott from any blame.Yes fire B-Scott, problem solved dude!
In the Eastern Conference, what teams had business being in the 2002 and 2003 NBA Finals? The only reason they were there was because the rest of the Eastern Conference sucked ass. It had everything to do with Jason Kidd, not Byron Scott. Byron Scott was the head coach of the 2000-01 New Jersey Nets team that without Jason Kidd went 26-52. He was also the head coach of the New Orleans Hornets in 2004-05 that went 18-64, the season before drafting Chris Paul. Good head coaches do not lead 18-64 teams. It's been blatantly obvious that his success as a head coach has been directly related to Jason Kidd and Chris Paul.Bull . Two final appearances with a team that really had no business there in the first place. No one expected NO to grab the 2nd seed last season. His teams play hard on the defensive end. Firing Scott at this point will only make the Hornets worse and that's the reality.
It's not Scott's fault
2002, the EC had no business being in the Finals. But the Nets were a complete team in 2003. They played WC style offense, and EC style defense. They were competing with the Spurs, but didn't have a chance because Byron decided his best defensive big was in his dog house. It was a big deal, if I remember correctly. Even the players were asking why Deke wasn't playing.
While the Lakers of 01, 02 and 03 were dominant, the reality is that the EC was not as bad as portrayed. They play a different style of ball that doesn't translate well to the regular season. But the bottom 4 seeds in the Western playoffs are just as inferior as the bottom 4 seeds in the Eastern playoffs, and sometimes can be more compe ive because defensive adjustments can occur, ala last season Bos vs. Atl/Cle... etc...
Jason Kidd is why that team made it to the finals twice. Byron is why they didn't even have a shot to win it all in 2003.
No I didn't say that, can you read? Obviously not.
Do you have proof that Byron Scott (Head Coach) has the final say on all personell decisions? If not, no he wasn't the number 1 reason Peja was overpaid unless you know for a fact he tells NO's owner how to spend his money.
The fact that his bench is thin as and his PF/C are a couple of overrated sissies absolves him from any blame on that front.
You are seriously ing stupid.
NBA coaching is in general is overrated. Phil Jackson didn't win 9 rings, Jordan, Kobe and Shaq did. This is obvious territory. Basketball is nothing like Football in terms of coaching. It's a players league.
With that said, it does not change the FACT that Byron Scott's Nets team OVERACHIEVED and they got WORSE after he left despite bringing even more talent in than Scott ever had to work with. Same with the Hornets. Overachieved last season when they were healthy.
But yeah, it sure as wasn't Scott's fault Chris Paul completely the bed in game 5.
I never said Byron Scott had final say on all personnel decisions. Can you read? He was the main reason for the Hornets signing Peja. That doesn't mean he made the final decision.
Yet you had no problem giving him credit for the two NBA Finals appearances and the Hornets being the 2 seed last season. For you to acknowledge that NBA coaching is overrated but still maintain it would be a mistake to fire Byron Scott is funny.You are seriously ing stupid.
NBA coaching is in general is overrated.
Exactly why firing Byron Scott is not a big deal. Thanks for finally realizing that.Phil Jackson didn't win 9 rings, Jordan, Kobe and Shaq did. This is obvious territory. Basketball is nothing like Football in terms of coaching. It's a players league.
Actually, both the Nets and the Hornets got worse with Byron Scott in his first season with both teams. In both his second season with the Nets and his second season with the Hornets, those two teams acquired Jason Kidd and Chris Paul. And what talent did the Nets bring in that was more than Scott ever had to work with? Vince Carter? That's all well and good but those teams also didn't have any quality power forwards or centers. You can't win in the NBA without big men. The Hornets overachieved because of Chris Paul and because David West had a breakout season, not because of Byron Scott.With that said, it does not change the FACT that Byron Scott's Nets team OVERACHIEVED and they got WORSE after he left despite bringing even more talent in than Scott ever had to work with. Same with the Hornets. Overachieved last season when they were healthy.
Not Byron Scott's fault Chris Paul sucked in game 5. But, Byron Scott still should be fired because he's not a good coach.But yeah, it sure as wasn't Scott's fault Chris Paul completely the bed in game 5.
You said Scott was the number 1 reason why Peja was overpaid and signed. That would imply he calls the shots, including the contract amount/length. Which is an ignorant thing to say.
He deserves some credit considering what he did with how little had to work with. No where did I give all the credit. Fact remains, the Nets GOT WORSE WHEN HE LEFT, despite bringing in better talent. And they became worse defensively.
It's a stupid thing to do at this point
Look how dumb you are. Quality centers like Jason Collins. Yup.
You don't win in the NBA without a closer. And there is no way Vince Carter would have gotten away with half assing it the entire season with Scott around.
Nets had more talent after Scott left, became worse. Fact.
They overachieved defensively, which Scott gets credit for.
You have yet to prove he's not a good coach as all your arguments were laughable fallacies. So it's just your baseless while facts point to him being an excellent coach. Firing him for the sake of firing would be a stupid decision at this point.
Byron does coach defense. I question his rotations. I question his ability to manage egos.
son managing HIS OWN ego is the biggest problem ..
Precisely.
CP3 is worn out, he had to carry a ty team the whole season and lead them in Scoring, Assists, and (Rebounds lol). If he was on the Lakers or Jazz, he will avg. atleast 4 more assists so I got mad props for the guy.
I bet next season he will be more cautious of when he passes the ball.
CP3 being figured out I think has something to do with that. They have a center, a power forward, a small forward. What they need is to have a defensive SF, a better SG, and a little more meat at the 5.
But they are in cost cutting mode, so that won't happen.
exactly ... Paul is wore the out. big deal, he had one bad game that he was obviously annoyed with his trash teammates for rarely helping out. Take Chris Paul off the Hornets and Tulane could beat them by 20 points!
you even saw Paul's assist numbers drop off and scoring go up after the all star break. he went from averaging 20-21 points per game to averaging 23 per game .... his assist went from over 12 a game to barely 11. He knew that he had to shoot the ball more because no one else could step up.... and the amazing thing is that he still led the entire NBA in assist and finished with a .503% field goal percentage to top it off.
Paul could EASILY average 25+ points per game if he wanted to ... don't be surprised if next year his assist drop off even more (yet probably still leads the league) and his scoring numbers shoot up to that 25+ per game area.
That implies no such thing. If Chris Paul scores 40 points and dishes 15 assists in a 1-point win, but Morris Peterson hits the game winning shot after going 0-for-10 before that game winner, you don't say Morris Peterson is the #1 reason for the Hornets winning. He made the game winner but Chris Paul would be the main reason for the Hornets winning because without his performance, the Hornets wouldn't have even been in a position to win the game and if Morris Peterson didn't suck throughout the entire game before that last shot, they could have been up by more and not needed a game winner.
Jason Kidd, Richard Jefferson, Kenyon Martin, Kerry Kittles, Dikembe Mutombo in a depleted Eastern Conference. That was not little to work with. Little to work with would be the 2000-01 Nets when Scott coached them to 26 regular season wins.He deserves some credit considering what he did with how little had to work with. No where did I give all the credit. Fact remains, the Nets GOT WORSE WHEN HE LEFT, despite bringing in better talent. And they became worse defensively.
That's an opinion. A team losing a playoff game by 58 points screams that a head coach has lost his players. That's when a change needs to be made.It's a stupid thing to do at this point
And, NBA coaching is overrated anyway. Remember?
They also had Kenyon Martin, Keith Van Horn, and Dikembe (for 2002-03) when they reached the NBA Finals. Not great, but in the Eastern Conference, much better than the other EC teams. In those two seasons the Nets went to the Finals, Jason Collins was a role-player sometimes starter. After Scott was fired, Collins was the full time starter. There was more talent on the Nets roster under Byron Scott.Look how dumb you are. Quality centers like Jason Collins. Yup.
You mean like the half-ass effort the Hornets just displayed in game 4?You don't win in the NBA without a closer. And there is no way Vince Carter would have gotten away with half assing it the entire season with Scott around.
Completely false.Nets had more talent after Scott left, became worse. Fact.
You won't find too many critics about Scott coaching defense. That's not why he should be fired. He should be fired because he doesn't know how to coach offense, manage a game, draw up any offensive sets, when to call time-outs, how to work officials, know how to stop runs by the opposing team, or motivate his team to fight.They overachieved defensively, which Scott gets credit for.
If an NBA coach has his team in the playoffs and are playing a home playoff game, that team cannot lose by 58 points. At home. That tells you he has lost his players. They don't listen to him anymore. And, they have quit on him. I just listed above what's wrong with him as a coach, but the fact they quit on him is sufficient enough for an NBA coach to be fired.You have yet to prove he's not a good coach as all your arguments were laughable fallacies. So it's just your baseless while facts point to him being an excellent coach. Firing him for the sake of firing would be a stupid decision at this point.
NBA coaching is overrated anyway. Remember?
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