This is a sidebar to the thread, but I am rooting for the Blazers.
I pray they win for you.
Go back and read the thread... All you've done is troll around in it.
Lacking do entation that an event transpired is not sufficient proof to claim that x or y event never took place. It's really that simple.
In other words... He can't use lack of do entation as defacto proof for his assertions.
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LMAO OderusIf there really was a God would he let Jesus get dunked on like this?
now that's real funny. atheistic dogma is awfully religious to me.
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go back and read the thread. I've done nothing of the sort.
Go back and read the thread... All you've done is troll around in it.
you are lacking do entation that peewee made that claim......but I guess according to you, that would not be sufficient proof that the claim never took place.Lacking do entation that an event transpired is not sufficient proof to claim that x or y event never took place. It's really that simple.
you fail. It's really that simple.
in other words, he also cannot prove that aliens have never visited Earth.In other words... He can't use lack of do entation as defacto proof for his assertions.
do you believe that aliens visited Earth?
I pray the Rockets win. How many people praying does it take to tip the balance in favor of one team over the other?I pray they win for you.
I'm just happy to hear you will be praying. If you can get your friends to pray with you, all the better.
maybe I'm praying to my lord and master, the anti christ, Obama.I'm just happy to hear you will be praying. If you can get your friends to pray with you, all the better.
so the content of the prayer doesn't matter?
let me ask you something....if thing always end up being "God's will" then what is the point of prayer when asking for something?
I pray to talk to Jesus, because He is a friend to me.
It is the same way as I don't only talk to my family members when I need a favor, but more often than not call them simply because I love and value their input in my life.
And things don't always end up being God's will.
God has a will in all things certainly, but because man has free will he can choose to go against God's will.
If a person suffering from cancer has 10,000 people praying for him/her and that person still dies an early death, is that or isn't that God's will?
God called that person to "come home", right? What was the point of praying then?
I also take it you don't believe in pre destination?
I also will ask again, what happens to your "free will" after you die and go to Heaven?
I believe that God desires everyone to come to a saving knowledge of him. so if you mean predestination in the sense that God pinpoints specific people to be saved and excludes others- no I don't believe that.
When I die, my free will will be acheived in the ultimate sense. I have chosen to be with Christ forever. In Heaven I will do so without the restraints of flesh or sin. To be absent from the body is to be fully, wonderfully present with the Lord.
Your "free will" will still exist in Heaven.
I cannot explain to you why some prayers get answered as the praying person and others do not.
However, I do believe the following:
Cancer and murder and all pain is a result of the fall.
The fall happened when Adam and Eve exercised their free will and rebelled against God's will.
So death, especially a painful one, was never God's will for man but rather is a consequence of sin.
All deaths are a result of sin in some way or another.
I don't mean that people who die have sinned and that is why they die, but rather that we are all victims of the world we live in- i.e. our bodies age and wear out, there are famines that cause death from starvation, etc.
There was no disease before the fall of man.
None of this was present in the Garden of Eden, the home God created for Adam and Eve- the home that they forfeited in their rebellion.
I don't believe it was God's will that I lose my father when I was only sixteen years old.
My dad's death was a result of stress, poor diet, and years of smoking- again all things that are a byproduct of Adam's disobedience.
I mean the apparent contradiction that God [being all-knowing] wants everyone to be saved, yet knows everyone won't be.
What kind of love is that? Why would you create something knowing that you will have to destroy it later because it doesn't acknowledge you?
ugh. you may as well have posted some verses here instead.When I die, my free will will be acheived in the ultimate sense. I have chosen to be with Christ forever. In Heaven I will do so without the restraints of flesh or sin. To be absent from the body is to be fully, wonderfully present with the Lord.
Way ahead of you.
I referenced 2 Corinthians 5:5-8 in my post.
so you are saying the capacity to do evil will still exist in Heaven?
if not, define what free will in Heaven will be.
then there is apperently no point of asking God for anything.
but not everyone is subject to cancer, murder or pain.........However, I do believe the following:
Cancer and murder and all pain is a result of the fall.
only death.
There is no apparent rhyme or reason for how God passes out "blessings".
There are plenty of good Christians that have had the best things in life.
There are plenty of good Christians that have been crapped on.
There are plenty of bad people that have had the best things in life.
There are plenty of bad people that seemed to get what they deserve.
A system? No. It IS a matter of belief. But there is no 'system' for not believing in a god(s). I've known people who don't believe for rational and irrational reasons.
Or, to put it more clearly, there is no one shared atheist belief system. Someone saying they are an atheist does not mean automatically anything but they don't believe in a God, whereas saying you are, for instance, a Christian, implies more than a belief in God, but also belief in the Bible, 10 Commandments, etc etc.
Capacity and will are two different things.
Tlong, that's the general usage. However, technically speaking, agnosticism is about knowledge and atheism is about belief. (Look at the root words.)
In your case, you'd be an agnostic atheist most likely. You don't know if God exists or not, and you don't have a belief in him.
Tell me, what 'dogma' do atheists believe?
now that's real funny. atheistic dogma is awfully religious to me.
Yes, many atheists believe in certain things... separation of church and state, global warming, any number of things such as that. But believing in those has nothing to do with not believing in a God.
Looking at the opposite, it would be tough to qualify yourself as "Christian" if you believed that Christ existed but you didn't believe in the Bible, the Commandments or going to church. (Sure, many people do that anyways... they're, IMHO, poor Christians.)
There is a shared belief that a higher power does not exist.
Something tells me that God's not tipping jump shots... if anything, he's giving players the ability to find the skill within them. Or something like that.
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