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that's your definition of god, bro. keep your ill informed opinions of my thoughts to yourself.
So, you're for stoning children who are gluttons and drunkards?so, for a child not cleaning his room and not finishing his dinner, you analogise a glutton and a drunkard?
fail.and re ed.
let's not forget one of the Ten Commandments (and that George Carlin bull is so easily answered and reasoned out by an objective mind) is Honor your father and your mother. See, unlike nowadays, people back then took their beliefs extremely seriously and when one of your children (and its clearly implying the 25 year old in the basement type child) continually broke a commandment, yeah it shouldn't surprise you.
what a crock of , but I didn't expect any better from you.
that's your definition of god, bro. keep your ill informed opinions of my thoughts to yourself.
what IS a crock of is your logic.so, for a child not cleaning his room and not finishing his dinner, you analogise a glutton and a drunkard?
fail.
let's not forget one of the Ten Commandments (and that George Carlin bull is so easily answered and reasoned out by an objective mind) is Honor your father and your mother. See, unlike nowadays, people back then took their beliefs extremely seriously and when one of your children (and its clearly implying the 25 year old in the basement type child) continually broke a commandment, yeah it shouldn't surprise you.
what a crock of , but I didn't expect any better from you.
He is quoting a direct reference from the bible
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
8 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
So god is omniscient? He knows exactly how everything will unfold through all time? Then he isn't omnipotent, because he lacks no ability to change his mind without contradicting himself. If the path of the universe is set in stone, then there is no such thing as free will. If there's no free will, how can there be sin?
the entire premise is being in your parents house, refusing their requests and refusing to 'honor' them with your gluttony and drunken rebelliousness in their home against their wishes.So, you're for stoning children who are gluttons and drunkards?
You are going to make her brain explode.
I really do not understand how some people cannot see the truth behind all of this.
Is it just plain stupidity? or refusal to let go due to fear?
has anyone studied why people hang on to religion or is it too politically incorrect to perform such a study? lol
LMAO. This from the idiot who pretended not to believe in god in the intelligent design thread so he could pretend it was somehow justified by anything but the bull bible.
and the justice for that is death by stoning?
God has limited himself in a couple different ways, so we have free choice in the matter. He knows if we take this path, we will be saved, and if we take that path, we will not - but he cannot force us to take either one.
its against the ten commandments. Continually breaking one of the ten commandments could be punishable by death.
How am I to participate if I have never seen any participation on his part?
If this is such a big decision, and God cares about me so much, why isn't he trying harder?
I'm sure zosa will say something like, "It's your fault; you hate God; etc etc" but why should all the blame be on me? Do we blame children who are raised poorly, or their parents who did not do an effective job of COMMUNICATING what was expected of them?
When a coach has good players, and he does not communicate to them, is the blame only on the players?
For those who ARE faithful, like yourself Angel Luv, communication may seem easy. However, for those who have never heard/seen the Lord, surely you can see why we fail to see the love/compassion?
To us, God is akin to a 'deadbeat Dad' as it were. Would we tell the child of a deadbeat Dad that is was HIS fault his Dad hasn't reappeared? That if the child just believed enough, the Dad would walk right through that door and everything would be better than fine?
And I've never been very religious in the first place. What about those who DID have faith, and then lost it? What is your explanation for those people? Do they not deserve to go to Heaven as well?
That's not a choice.
1) Believe and go to heaven
2) Don't believe and suffer in fire, tormented and in pain forerver
Some choice, LOL. Your god is a lunatic.
His word says that, "without faith it is impossible to please GOD"...Tell me Phenomanul... if God REALLY wanted me to go to Heaven, couldn't he find a way to convince me to believe?
Why then would he make a personal exception and choose to deviate from his M.O. ... just so that you would come to know Him???
I guess if you truly desired that His existence be made known to you, you could plea for a supernatural manifestation of His presence... except how would you go about making that plea in the first place if you don't have the genuine conviction that GOD is even there to listen???
nobody is saying getting plastered is ok....but there is absolutely nothing wrong with downing a few on Friday night after a long week.
what's great is people come up different reasons why James contradicts Paul.2. I can explain it, but you've already made up your mind.
The two are not mutually exclusive, and are in no way contradictory.
Even Martin Luther had fits trying to figure out the book of James.
...but I guess that's the great thing about the Bible. Work it until you can prove your argument.
which ultimately makes little sense on any level. It's why people get frustrated over it.3. I can't say it any easier for you Blake...believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shall be saved.
God is supposed to be just, yet he will save a murderer simply on the grounds of belief while sending a non-believing Jew that has spent their life helping the poor in Africa to an eternity of pain and torment.
I can't say this any easier either: the premise SUCKS.
so you believe it is OK to stone your children to death if they don't obey you.
My dog has more morals than you do.
this is the idiot who didn't put forth one drop of tangible evidence for or against evolution, yet joined in with "curbstomp" and "you're a re " when our opinions differed.
besides outright lying about what i said - i never denied belief in god, nor have I acknowledged myself as being christian.
So, YES, you're for stoning children who are gluttons and drunkards. At least have the balls to come right out and say it.
didn't you say your only crime against God was not believing in him?
now I see why everyone calls you a re .
Um, one of your posts was along the lines of " God, Jesus... ". I pointed out that you were a complete moron for using the second law of thermodynamics in your lousy proof for ID, that you had no idea what you were talking about, that you had no idea what the word entropy meant and so on, which was abundantly clear from your idiotic rants.
false. they didn't get stoned for being a glutton and a drunkard - its merely an example of someone refusing to obey and honor their parents. If you cared to read more of the Bible on the issue, you would see its up to the Parents to take their children to the gates and demand punishment.
wait what?
I say
and z0sa's response is :
HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?!?!?
it was to make a point. if you refuse to believe in god or jesus or allah or whatever, i don't see how you can outright buy all the bull scientists feed you.
and RG did all the arguing for you, . You never made an argument, pausing to attack my argument and call me an idiot. Hey, its your opinion, but that doesn't make you right nor did you ever make a point yourself.
which is why you're a bag for calling me out when you never made an argument yourself. In fact, all you fell back on was others' arguments consistently.
i pity the mentally ill, not entertain intellectual conversations with them.
I feel somewhat foolish attempting to explain the mind of God, as He is greater than anything any feeble mind could even imagine, much less define.
I will do my best to answer your question though, according to the ability I have.
But if you really want answers to this question, why not ask God for yourself?
Omnipotent is all powerful. God can do anything. That is true. I see no contradiction.
Omniscient is knowing everything. God does. He knew we were going to have this conversation.
God does not make mistakes, so He never needs to change His mind.
God has established His Word and sticks to His word that man can know Him and His will.
God established that there be free will and as a result there is.
You accept a standard when it comes to the speed limit, proper spelling, and common courtesy, and yet you find it unreasonable that God would have a standard for mankind?
Where do you think order in the universe and having standards orginated from?
For your consideration:
.......But the fact remains that the biblical text reads "Sea of Reeds." Whatever else is debated, this fact remains and must be taken seriously. That is not speculation or conjecture or trying to do away with the Bible. It is simply a fact of the Hebrew language. And it is a fact of the biblical text in dozens of references. However the debate is discussed, the biblical text cannot be rationalized away from either direction. It cannot be dismissed as fiction, but then neither can it be used to support tradition or doctrine or even ideas about Scripture apart from what the text actually says. We must simply conclude that we do not know the point of exit of the Israelites from the land, nor do we know the route they took.......
http://www.cresourcei.org/yamsuph.html
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