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I'd say Earth is at least a few trillion years old and I should know since I have a few dozen PHD's in and quite a few BS's.
Rule #65 Blake is a hard headed tool
I'd say Earth is at least a few trillion years old and I should know since I have a few dozen PHD's in and quite a few BS's.
I hate the Blake!!
It could be, but it rarely ever is.
but if I provide a worthless post, feel free to point it out.
Let's just put it this way... the singularity that produced the Big Bang... contained the entire mass of the universe and all of it's energy... yet it probably fit into a dot smaller than the period at the end of this sentence.
The moment it "banged" it did so as a burst of pure energy... one which couldn't have been constrained by the "speed of light" otherwise it would have crunched within a matter of micro seconds... I mean if light can't even escape the gravitational clutches of your run-o-the-mill black hole... it definitely would not have escaped from the gravitational clutches produced by the agglomeration of the Universe's entire mass.
The Big Bang event therefore had to violate the 'speed of light' constraint. Furthermore, if it did so excessively quarks, protons, neutron, electrons and eventually atoms would have failed to condense out of that energy cloud... without them hydrogen, and hence stars would have failed to form... in fact, stars couldn't have formed until that initial wave managed to slow down to a velocity below the speed of light otherwise any aglomeration of hydrogen gas would have reverted back to its energy state (since mass particles cannot exceed the speed of light)... Without stars, none of the heavier elements would even exist...
Last edited by Phenomanul; 05-28-2009 at 03:30 PM.
Same goes for me too.
4 posts with my name in it in the last few minutes....
there go the butthurt trolls again.
just curious, do you believe that an almighty creator made the Bible to be the undeniable, unmistakeable word of God?
Since the earth's magnetic field is decaying at an exponential rate, its strength would have been unrealistically high 25,000 years ago. Thus, Earth is less than 25,000 years old.
The size of the Mississippi River delta divided by the sediment ac ulation rate gives an age of less than 30,000 years.
The largest stalac es and flowstones could have formed in about 4400 years.
The oldest coral reef is about 4200 years old .
The oldest tree in the world is 4300 years old .
The oldest historical records go back less than 6000 years .
The existence of short period comets means that the universe is less than 10,000 years old. Comets and meteoroids only last from 10,000-15,000 years before they are blown apart by the solar wind.
There are no fossil meteorites in the geologic record. If the latter were laid down over billions of years we would expect to find at least a few fossil meteorites in the geologic strata. Therefore, the geologic record was deposited rapidly.
The volume of lava on earth divided by its rate of efflux yields only a few million years. The earth is not billions of years old.
If we divide the amount of various minerals in the ocean by their influx rate we get only a few thousand years of ac ulation. Therefore, the earth is young.
Modern textbooks, in effect, tell us that FROGS+TIME = PRINCE.
Evolution is merely a theory.
Evolution is a religion, not part of science.
Those who believe the earth is billions of years old will typically try to discredit one of the above arguments and then mistakenly think that they have successfully proven the entire list wrong.
If the universe is not billions of years old, then we need not bother with the other arguments supporting evolution.
I have to step out....
Later peeps...
Hey, keep your sex life out of this. That brings nothing to the discussion.
there go the butthurt trolls again.
problem with your theory is that it is a fact that the speed that the universe is expanding at is increasing.
just curious, do you believe that an almighty creator made the Bible to be the undeniable, unmistakeable word of God?
Now Blake can say what ever sounds good in his warped mind, you wont be here to correct him.
My oh my, and do any of you wonder why we have 3 billion year old rocks?
Before Stephen Jay Gould, prominent evolutionary biologist, published his first paper about uniformitarianism, it was assumed that the natural processes of the earth were all obeying the laws of Lyell's Uniformitarianism - "that all things continue as they were from the beginning" (wikipedia). However, scientists were quickly finding out that if these laws held true, there was an impossibly high amount of evidence stacking up against an old earth theory - and therefore, against how science perceived evolution. This is part of the reason Gould published his paper allowing for different rates in the past (circular reasoning), and several years later followed it up with a theory on how species could quickly change, thus negating the need for 'deep time': Punctuated Equilibrium.
It's not hard to picture an agenda here. Rather than rely on earth's natural processes being constant as has been proven time and time again, humanity just gave ourselves the green light to interpret the evidence however we see fit, objectiveness be damned.
And here is where we get the story of this thread. In 1965, Gould told us the if we couldn't explain it using heads instead of our hearts, we could just go ahead and use our hearts anyway and call it science. Based completely in circular reasoning, this is why geologist can "factually" say the earth was originally in an order they preordain; this is why the evolutionary biologist can study DNA and instead of seeing a complex coded language of information, they see life as a result of random processes - such beauty, created by randomness. The thought is saddening.
While today we continue to follow the two assumptions set down by Gould in modern sciences, it must be also assumed that inaccuracy, while perhaps not constant, abounds.
Last edited by z0sa; 05-28-2009 at 03:55 PM.
copying and pasting arguments from creation biased websites is not proof no matter how many times you post them.
Since the earth's magnetic field is decaying at an exponential rate, its strength would have been unrealistically high 25,000 years ago. Thus, Earth is less than 25,000 years old.
The size of the Mississippi River delta divided by the sediment ac ulation rate gives an age of less than 30,000 years.
The largest stalac es and flowstones could have formed in about 4400 years.
The oldest coral reef is about 4200 years old .
The oldest tree in the world is 4300 years old .
The oldest historical records go back less than 6000 years .
The existence of short period comets means that the universe is less than 10,000 years old. Comets and meteoroids only last from 10,000-15,000 years before they are blown apart by the solar wind.
There are no fossil meteorites in the geologic record. If the latter were laid down over billions of years we would expect to find at least a few fossil meteorites in the geologic strata. Therefore, the geologic record was deposited rapidly.
The volume of lava on earth divided by its rate of efflux yields only a few million years. The earth is not billions of years old.
If we divide the amount of various minerals in the ocean by their influx rate we get only a few thousand years of ac ulation. Therefore, the earth is young.
Modern textbooks, in effect, tell us that FROGS+TIME = PRINCE.
Evolution is merely a theory.
Evolution is a religion, not part of science.
Those who believe the earth is billions of years old will typically try to discredit one of the above arguments and then mistakenly think that they have successfully proven the entire list wrong.
If the universe is not billions of years old, then we need not bother with the other arguments supporting evolution.
I thought we already went over this.
Me being here to correct you hasn't stopped you from saying whatever sounds hilarious to you in your warped mind.
Even though it violated the speed of light at that moment the speed of light is still measurable now. So you're telling me that the current standard of measurement doesn't matter? I'm talking after the fact not at the moment of birth.
Now you want personal responses? You just said show the proof and when someone goes to a site that has the proof you want personal speculations?
I think you need open a window in that single wide trailer and maybe weed eat around one of those rusty cars you have parked in your front lawn , maybe empty the water in one of those many spare tires help control the mosquito populations for the rest of the trailer trash.
Come back after your dad comes back from the plasma center and maybe Phenomanul will be back to continue waxing your lame ass.
I concur. That is not proof of anything.
A creation biased website has no such proof.
did you just high five laker lanny and alex jones?I think you need open a window in that single wide trailer and maybe weed eat around one of those rusty cars you have parked in your front lawn , maybe empty the water in one of those many spare tires help control the mosquito populations for the rest of the trailer trash.
Come back after your dad comes back from the plasma center and maybe Phenomanul will be back to continue waxing your lame ass.
Are you sure?
Quotes about Marines
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There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion.
Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
Ned Dolan I come in peace, I didn't bring artillery. But I am pleading with you with tears in my eyes: If you with me, I'll kill you all.
Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal and took Iwo Jima. Bagdad ain't .
Marine Major General John F. Kelly We signed up knowing the risk. Those innocent people in New York didn't go to work thinking there was any kind of risk.
Pvt. Mike Armendariz-Clark, USMC; Afghanastan, 20 September 2001
As reported on page 1 of the New York Times The safest place in Korea was right behind a platoon of Marines. Lord, how they could fight!
MGen. Frank E. Lowe, USA; Korea, 26 January 1952 Marines know how to use their bayonets. Army bayonets may as well be paper-weights.
Navy Times; November 1994 Why in can't the Army do it if the Marines can. They are the same kind of men; why can't they be like Marines.
Gen. John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, USA; 12 February 1918 The United States Marine Corps, with its fiercely proud tradition of excellence in combat, its hallowed rituals, and its unbending code of honor, is part of the fabric of American myth.
Thomas E. Ricks; Making the Corps, 1997 For all of those that have son's or daughter's at bootcamp let me pass on what I found. Let me give you a little back ground first. When my son left home he had no motivation, he was lazy, slobby, no pride, no self worth. This is the boy that got off the bus March 18th at Parris Island. The man that I met on Thursday for parents day is AWESOME. There is no way I can describe to you all the difference. He looks different, he walks different, he talks different, he has such a sense of bearing and pride all I could do was look at him in awe. Oh yes, the training is hard, what he went through is unimaginable to any one that has not been there. They are definitely taught to be Warriors. Let me tell you the surprise of what else they are taught. My Marine son has better values, better morals, better manners than any one I know. It is so much more than Yes Sir, Yes Mam...so much more. He cares about how he looks, he cares about what he does, and its not a boastful, bad ass thing. He is a true gentleman. I saw patience, and a calmness in him that I have never seen. I could never express my gra ude enough to the Marine Corps for what they have given my son. I know this, I have an 11 year old Devil pup still at home. When the time comes for his turn if I had to I would take him kicking and screaming all the way. Although I'm sure that will not happen. The hero worship I see in my younger sons eyes for his Marine brother tells me I will have two Marines in the family, and I will be one very proud mother.
"Cybil", Mother of a Marine writing to the myMarine Group The raising of that flag on Suribachi means a Marine Corps for the next five hundred years.
James Forrestal, Secretary of the Navy; 23 February 1945
(the flag-raising on Iwo Jima had been immortalized in a photograph by Associated Press photographer Joe Rosenthal) I have just returned from visiting the Marines at the front, and there is not a finer fighting organization in the world!
General of the Armies Douglas MacArthur; Korea, 21 September 1950 We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the is going on?
Gen. John W. Vessey Jr., USA, Chairman of the the Joint Chiefs of Staff
during the assault on Grenada, 1983 The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!
Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945 Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem.
Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985 Marines I see as two breeds, Rottweilers or Dobermans, because Marines come in two varieties, big and mean, or skinny and mean. They're aggressive on the attack and tenacious on defense. They've got really short hair and they always go for the throat.
RAdm. "Jay" R. Stark, USN; 10 November 1995 They told (us) to open up the Embassy, or "we'll blow you away." And then they looked up and saw the Marines on the roof with these really big guns, and they said in Somali, "Igaralli ahow," which means "Excuse me, I didn't mean it, my mistake".
Karen Aquilar, in the U.S. Embassy; Mogadishu, Somalia, 1991 For over 221 years our Corps has done two things for this great Nation. We make Marines, and we win battles.
Gen. Charles C. Krulak, USMC (CMC); 5 May 1997 Come on, you sons of es! Do you want to live forever?
GySgt. Daniel J. "Dan" Daly, USMC
near Lucy-`le-Bocage as he led the 5th Marines' attack into Belleau Wood, 6 June 1918 Gone to Florida to fight the Indians. Will be back when the war is over.
Colonel Commandant Archibald Henderson, USMC
in a note pinned to his office door, 1836 Don't you forget that you're First Marines! Not all the communists in can overrun you!
Col. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC
rallying his First Marine Regiment near Chosin Reservoir, Korea, December 1950 Marines die, that's what we're here for. But the Marine Corps lives forever. And that means YOU live forever.
the mythical GySgt. Hartman, USMC; portrayed by GySgt. R. Lee Ermey, a Marine Corps Drill Instructor using his own choice of words in Full Metal Jacket, 1987 You'll never get a Purple Heart hiding in a foxhole! Follow me!
Capt. Henry P. Crowe, USMC; Guadalcanal, 13 January 1943 We are United States Marines, and for two and a quarter centuries we have defined the standards of courage, esprit, and military prowess.
Gen. James L. Jones, USMC (CMC); 10 November 2000 There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion.
Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army Freedom is not free, but the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
Ned Dolan I love the Corps for those intangible possessions that cannot be issued: pride, honor, integrity, and being able to carry on the traditions for generations of warriors past.
Cpl. Jeff Sornig, USMC; in Navy Times, November 1994 I have only two men out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold.
1stLt. Clifton B. Cates, USMC
in Belleau Wood, 19 July 1918 Courage is endurance for one moment more…
Unknown Marine Second Lieutenant in Vietnam My only answer as to why the Marines get the toughest jobs is because the average Leatherneck is a much better fighter. He has far more guts, courage, and better officers... These boys out here have a pride in the Marine Corps and will fight to the end no matter what the cost.
2nd Lt. Richard C. Kennard, Peleliu, World War II A Marine should be sworn to the patient endurance of hardships, like the ancient knights; and it is not the least of these necessary hardships to have to serve with sailors.
Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery Lying offshore, ready to act, the presence of ships and Marines sometimes means much more than just having air power or ship's fire, when it comes to deterring a crisis. And the ships and Marines may not have to do anything but lie offshore. It is hard to lie offshore with a C-141 or C-130 full of airborne troops.
Gen. Colin Powell, U. S. Army
Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff
During Operation Desert Storm This was the first time that the Marines of the two nations had fought side by side since the defence of the Peking Legations in 1900. Let it be said that the admiration of all ranks of 41 Commando for their brothers in arms was and is unbounded. They fought like tigers and their morale and esprit de corps is second to none.
Lt Col. D.B. Drysdale, Commanding
41 Commando, Chosen Reservoir, on the 1st Marine Division Division The wonderful love of a beautiful maid,
The love of a staunch true man,
The love of a baby, unafraid,
Have existed since time began.
But the greatest of loves, The quintessence of loves.
even greater than that of a mother,
Is the tender, passionate, infinite love,
of one drunken Marine for another.
"Semper Fidelis"
General Louis H. Wilson
Commandant of the Marine Corps
Toast given at 203rd Marine Corps Birthday Ball
Camp Lejueune, N.C. 1978 You cannot exaggerate about the Marines. They are convinced to the point of arrogance, that they are the most ferocious fighters on earth- and the amusing thing about it is that they are.
Father Kevin Keaney
1st Marine Division Chaplain
Korean War There was always talk of espirit de corps, of being gung ho, and that must have been a part of it. Better, tougher training, more marksmanship on the firing range, the instant obedience to orders seared into men in boot camp.
James Brady, columnist, novelist,
press secretary to President Reagan, television personality and
Marine The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps.
General Alexander A. Vandergrift, USMC
to the Senate Naval Affairs Committee, 5 May 1946 By their victory, the 3rd, 4th and 5th Marine Divisions and other units of the Fifth Amphibious Corps have made an accounting to their country which only history will be able to value fully. Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island, uncommon valor was a common virtue.
Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, U.S. Navy Being ready is not what matters. What matters is winning after you get there.
LtGen Victor H. Krulak, USMC
April 1965 The Marine Corps has just been called by the New York Times, 'The elite of this country.' I think it is the elite of the world.
Admiral William Halsey, U.S. Navy I still need Marines who can shoot and salute. But I need Marines who can fix jet engines and man sophisticated radar sets, as well.
General Robert E. Cushman, Jr., USMC
Commandant of the Marine Corps, 17 May 1974 I can't say enough about the two Marine divisions. If I use words like 'brilliant,' it would really be an under description of the absolutely superb job that they did in breaching the so-called 'impenetrable barrier.' It was a classic- absolutely classic- military breaching of a very very tough minefield, barbed wire, fire trenches-type barrier.
Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, U. S. Army
Commander, Operation Desert Storm, February 1991 I am convinced that there is no smarter, handier, or more adaptable body of troops in the world.
Prime Minister of Britain, Sir Winston Churchhill The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle.
Gen. John "Black Jack" Pershing, U.S. Army
Commander of American Forces in World War I Do not attack the First Marine Division. Leave the yellowlegs alone. Strike the American Army.
Orders given to Communist troops in the Korean War;
shortly afterward, the Marines were ordered
to not wear their khaki leggings. The American Marines have it [pride], and benefit from it. They are tough, y, sure of themselves and their buddies. They can fight and they know it.
General Mark Clark, U.S. Army They (Women Marines) don't have a nickname, and they don't need one. They get their basic training in a Marine atmosphere, at a Marine Post. They inherit the traditions of the Marines. They are Marines.
LtGen Thomas Holcomb, USMC
Commandant of the Marine Corps, 1943 I've always been proud of being a Marine. I won't hesitate to defend the Corps.
Jonathan Winters, comic and Marine Every Marine is, first and foremost, a rifleman. All other conditions are secondary.
Gen. A. M. Gray, USMC
Commandant of the Marine Corps A Ship without Marines is like a garment without buttons.
Adm. David Dixon Porter, USN in a letter to
Colonel Commandant John Harris, USMC, 1863
The Marines have landed and the situation is well in hand.
Attributed to Richard Harding Davis (1864-1916) If I had one more division like this First Marine Division I could win this war.
General of the Armies Douglas McArthur in Korea,
overheard and reported by Marine Staff Sergeant Bill Houghton, Weapons/2/5
I was referring to this thread.
Semper Fi!!!!
So your a flip flopper like Blake?
Blake posts quotes its proof.
You post quotes? it's a lazy way to try and not answer the questions.
Blake does a copying and paste? It's evidence of proving he is right.
You copy and paste? Your a loser that knows nothing about the topic and is wasting his time.
I think people with 20/20 vision and at least a 7th grade education can see the facts and can see that Blake got his ass handed to him two pages ago.
You just don't get it. I was referring that your cutting and posting from that site is NOT proof of anything.
I never said Blake's cut and pasting was right either. None of this can be proven because we just don't know.
Your drama never stops.
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