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    James Harden patterns his game after Manu but James Harden is nowhere near the player Manu Ginobili is, even an 80% effective Manu. Same goes for Tyreke Evans and Jordan Hill.

    They would certainly be cheaper players over the next 3 years, however.
    So the Spurs ship Manu to Wiz., take Harden/Evans/etc. at 5, and then re-sign Manu as their '10 free-agent.

    If it's Harden taken with the 5th, he gets Manu as a mentor for a couple of years before he eventually has to take over his role, and the Spurs would finally be able to land a marquis free-agent with their cap room. (And yes, this is all tongue-in-cheek)

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    I hope another team overpays for this piece of .
    Last edited by rayray2k8; 06-05-2009 at 01:39 AM.

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    Maybe the Spurs front office learned their lesson from Scola. Sign him and dump Bonner.

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    Maybe the Spurs front office learned their lesson from Scola. Sign him and dump Bonner.
    Actually it's more like dumping Bonner for Euro Bonner...

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    I thought Bourousis was some skin disorder.

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    I thought Bourousis was some skin disorder.
    It's actually a sexually transmitted disease. It can be treated though.

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    I hope another teams overpay for this piece of .
    if they do not play for the spurs they suck now?

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    He's good player Greek good and Euro league type can make shot himself unlike Bowen old and dirty, needs poopie diaper change.

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    if they do not play for the spurs they suck now?
    He sucks, period.
    Looks like a slower and dumber version of Vlade Divac.

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    Another Greek article on the subject :
    http://www.e-tipos.com/newsitem?id=93604

    So :
    - Spurs offer is $10.5M/3 years.
    - Pop talk to Bourousis at the Euroleague final 4.
    - Parker called him to convince him to sign in SA.
    - Spurs give him flight tickets to SA so that he could see Spurs' facilities/organization.

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    Lol at the Greek naming of Spurs being automatically translated into Sperm

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    Another Greek article on the subject :
    http://www.e-tipos.com/newsitem?id=93604

    So :
    - Spurs offer is $10.5M/3 years.
    - Pop talk to Bourousis at the Euroleague final 4.
    - Parker called him to convince him to sign in SA.
    - Spurs give him flight tickets to SA so that he could see Spurs' facilities/organization.
    It looks like the article also says that Pop promised that he'd play. The quote from Pop appears to be: "You are my choice, I believe in you and I want you to come play in San Antonio."

    I watched a couple games of his today and he's far from a sure bet to translate to the NBA .... but the Spurs need to strike gold and he appears to have a pretty high ceiling. He also could bust but there's a chance he turns into a Chris Kaman type player that is a better shooter but not as good of a rebounder or passer.

    But I won't get my hopes up. The Greek media can be making this up and even if they're not, another team could easily come in and offer him a better contract.

    I like that the Spurs are thinking outside the box and they are doing it to fill a bigman spot. The small forward spot is also glaring but this team needs to give Duncan a capable big if they are going to have any shot at a championship.

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    Yep, it could easily be some BS created either by some newspapers or by Bourrousis' agent to help his client to get a bigger contract from Oly.

    Let's say the info is true and Spurs have really offered a $10.5M/3 years contract to Bourousis.
    First, the NBA FA period will start in one month and Spurs are ready to spend more than half of their MLE to Bourousis. It means that they should be damn high on him.
    Second, it could also mean that Spurs will go away of the 2010 plan. If they get Bourousis, they will lose $3M in cap space for the 2010 summer. It doesn't sound like 2010 plan compliant. If Spurs get away of the 2010 plan, they could try to fix the SF problem with a trade.

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    according to the same draft express, bourousis's ceiling is troy murphy. not exactly striking gold here. i would expect the spurs to look around before offering him a contract one month before the NBA FA period, especially with some very solid FA bigmen available (mcdyess, wallace, anderson, gortat, etc.). spurs are also still struggling with having a surplus of bigmen but unable to find an effective one to place next to duncan.

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    i thought that we need an athletic big!!

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    Another Greek article on the subject :
    http://www.e-tipos.com/newsitem?id=93604

    So :
    - Spurs offer is $10.5M/3 years.
    - Pop talk to Bourousis at the Euroleague final 4.
    - Parker called him to convince him to sign in SA.
    - Spurs give him flight tickets to SA so that he could see Spurs' facilities/organization.
    I can see that this happened like reported in this article. the numbers look pretty plausible, similar to what Fab got some years ago.

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    according to the same draft express, bourousis's ceiling is troy murphy. not exactly striking gold here. i would expect the spurs to look around before offering him a contract one month before the NBA FA period, especially with some very solid FA bigmen available (mcdyess, wallace, anderson, gortat, etc.). spurs are also still struggling with having a surplus of bigmen but unable to find an effective one to place next to duncan.
    But Troy Murphy isn't a bad player to be compared to. We don't need another HOF'er, but this guy is young and sounds like the kind of workhorse presence in the paint and scorer the Spurs need. I'm definitely okay with them taking a gamble on this kid. He's probably better than anything they can get out of the draft.

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    Another Greek article on the subject :
    http://www.e-tipos.com/newsitem?id=93604

    So :
    - Spurs offer is $10.5M/3 years.
    - Pop talk to Bourousis at the Euroleague final 4.
    - Parker called him to convince him to sign in SA.
    - Spurs give him flight tickets to SA so that he could see Spurs' facilities/organization.
    Bruno, it is saying he's already had a tour of SA or they've invited him to come? And do you have a sense of what kind of article this is (is it rumor or is a journalist quoting "sources"?)

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    Bruno, it is saying he's already had a tour of SA or they've invited him to come? And do you have a sense of what kind of article this is (is it rumor or is a journalist quoting "sources"?)
    I'm not Greek, so I will have a hard time telling you how reliable is the source of the info.
    When I "babel-read" this article, it says that Spurs have send him open flight tickets to SA. He hasn't come to SA for the moment.

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    But Troy Murphy isn't a bad player to be compared to. We don't need another HOF'er, but this guy is young and sounds like the kind of workhorse presence in the paint and scorer the Spurs need. I'm definitely okay with them taking a gamble on this kid. He's probably better than anything they can get out of the draft.
    Yeah Troy Murphy is pretty close to a double-double for his career. And he has range; for the last 3 years he's average .395 or higher from the 3. A Troy Murphy who's willing to put effort in on D is a very nice player...And this guy (6'11, 247, long wingspan) is big enough to bang with anyone, including Yao, when necessary.

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    One thing about this offer is that it is much earlier than the NBA free agent period and the draft. I suspect that it has a deadline to it, so that the Spurs will know what they have before making deals on draft day. Similarly a deadline will leave them in a position to have Bouroussis either signed with them or out of their plans by the time the NBA FA period starts (they will either start that period with a full MLE, allowing them to pursue MLE FA of choice, or with Bouroussis signed and only the remains the MLE to work with…). That strikes me as a smart bit of business...

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    He sucks, period.
    Looks like a slower and dumber version of Vlade Divac.
    God, I wish we had Vlade in his prime here now.

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    If accurate that would be a significant hit to the 2010 plan.
    Not to mention if the Spurs sign Halitosis, that would eat into the FA money for 2010, especially if it is at the rumored 4M per year. Yikes. In context, if Halitosis works out, that is not a lot of money for a legit starting center, but it would hurt the Spurs chances of landing a bigger FA somewhat.
    Yep, it could easily be some BS created either by some newspapers or by Bourrousis' agent to help his client to get a bigger contract from Oly.

    Let's say the info is true and Spurs have really offered a $10.5M/3 years contract to Bourousis.
    First, the NBA FA period will start in one month and Spurs are ready to spend more than half of their MLE to Bourousis. It means that they should be damn high on him.
    Second, it could also mean that Spurs will go away of the 2010 plan. If they get Bourousis, they will lose $3M in cap space for the 2010 summer. It doesn't sound like 2010 plan compliant. If Spurs get away of the 2010 plan, they could try to fix the SF problem with a trade.
    There is a discrepency between the first reported offer and the one Bruno posted now. Who knows what the Spurs offered or if they even made an offer.

    I agree the Spurs would need to add another piece to contend at it would have to be a SF. That is a lot of risk to take, even more risky than cap space and FA in 2010.

    But this does make sense if you are trying to contend and be budget conscious. 3.4M for a starting center that can contribute is much more realistic for the Spurs than trading for a center that makes 10M.

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    Parker called him to convince him to sign in SA.

    hope he has better luck then that duncan fellow does
    to convince people to come

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    Prediction - Spurs sign this guy. Vspan follows
    Board Implodes because KBP will follow with a Gazillion posts gloating about it.

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