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    I feel certain they can talk to him. The Nets talked to Boki in March during this past season.

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    That'd be pretty damn funny if McDonald is wrong. How does he handle that?
    He tells everyone that he was hoodwinked by someone he thought was an insider on the Greek team and an impeccable source: Kill Bill Pana

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    Dude, Scola isn't Jordan so let's claim down now.
    Scola on our boards is legendary now! He is Jordan, Hakeem, Tim, Kareem and Magic in one! He is a superhuman!

    People need to get over him already, he is gone.

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    My understanding is that they can negotiate with, and even sign an international free agent at this time. The "July moratorium" is not an absolute prohibition against contract negotiations, even for domestic players. It is simply there to give the league time to establish the salary cap for the upcoming year. Free agents become "free" on July 1, and the cap for the next season is not established until about a week later. But a trade (or signing) that does not depend in any way on the exact cap number can be done, even during the July moratorium.

    Teams are free to sign players for minimum contracts (I believe) the day after their season ends. Obviously that depends on the player being free to sign as well. (So they could sign someone like Horry to a minimum contract today.) They can also sign rookie scale contracts during the July moratorium, and they can sign second-round picks to one or two year contracts. I don't think that there is anything to prohibit the signing of an international free agent, as long as the transaction doesn't depend on the specific cap number for the upcoming season.

    Bourosis is not a part of any NBA team, so there can't be any tampering issue. There is also no issue with him becoming "free" as of July 1, for the same reason. I can't think of any reason why they could not have given him an offer at this time. For that matter, I can't think of any reason why signing him would depend on the specific cap number for next season. Since the Spurs' season is over, I'm pretty certain that they could even sign him now if they can come to terms.

    BTW - if a first round pick is not tendered an offer by July 16, he becomes a free agent. Obviously the league expects some negotiations and signings to happen between July 1 and July 16.
    Last edited by GSH; 06-06-2009 at 12:58 AM.

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    "The sperm in the proposed three-year contract Bourousi"

    Great translation.

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    "The sperm in the proposed three-year contract Bourousi"

    Great translation.
    So if I'm reading that right, does that mean Bourousi means sperm in english?

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    McDonald is wrong (again). Spurs can talk with Bouroussis before July.

    Spurs, as a lot of other teams, have a minicamp with FA in mid June. I don't really see how you can have a minicamp if you aren't even allowed to talk to FA to invite them.

    NBA "free agents" aren't free agents for the moment. They are still under contract until June 30th. Teams aren't allowed to talk to players under contract with another NBA team (tampering rule).

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    Another Mc Donald Failure no surprise there...

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    That'd be pretty damn funny if McDonald is wrong. How does he handle that?


    The same way he handles being wrong in every other thing he writes.


    Seriously, is this the best we can get for a beat writer?

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    If yo ballin is weak go Greek
    Bring him ovah and check the technique
    If yo Greek starts a losing streak go home.

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    This guy looks like a more athletic Bill Lambeer. If we do get him it would mean Bonner is a goner.

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    Here is where I miss Ludden.

    At a time when the NBA knows the Spurs need to re-tool a bit, them talking to Bourossis shouldn't be made public knowledge until it's needed to be made public knowledge.

    It's like talking about Batum and then watching him get snaked away by a former Spurs Front Office person.

    I'm happy that those guys got the best foundation work done and are now off to do their own thing but BRAIN-DRAIN has made this organization weaker not stronger. It doesn't mean that they ain't compe ive, it just means that the OLD GUARD has to work harder.

    Ludden would've released a possible interest story at a time where saying so wouldn't possibly have negative impact. AND HE WOULD'VE GOT HIS FACTS STRAIGHT.

    Keep Trying McDonald, but if you need fact-checkers...there's a ton of us here. But I'm not sure we work for free.

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    McDonalds Blows.. and so does KBP.

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    If we do get him it would mean Bonner is a goner.
    Not neccessarily, Bonner, IMO, will probably just have a lesser role. Be more of a role player than a starter which wouldn't be so bad seeing how he was top 10 in 3 pt shooting last yr. my problem with him was the amount of min PoP was given him. U don't sprinkle sugar on and call it a cake. Just like u don't force a role player out of his role

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    Thats it with Balkan press, just lifting dust, creating panic, for nothing. Ive said it before.

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    From The Hoop. No clue if it's solid info or not.

    Bourousis between Greece and the NBA

    The negotiations have started about the future of Ioannis Bourousis(2.10-C) who is considered to be one of the hottest players this summer. Sportnet.gr says that there is initially a big gap between the money that Bourousis is asking and what Olympiakos are offering. It also says that the San Antonio Spurs offer him a 4 season contract whereas Olympiakos offer a 3+1 contract. It also says that San Antonio offer more money than Olympiakos at this moment in time.

    Another report comes from gazzetta.gr which mentions 2 more NBA teams interested in the young greek center apart from San Antonio and they are Memphis and Cleveland. The agent of Bourousis, Kostas Papadakis, will meet with the Aggelopoulos brothers again in a few days and it's expected that Olympiakos will come up with a better offer.

    It is common knowledge that Bourousis would prefer to stay in Greece and Olympiakos rather than play in the NBA so there will definitely be more news on this one. He averaged 12.5 points and 7.4 rebounds in 22 games in the Euroleague.

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    It is common knowledge that Bourousis would prefer to stay in Greece and Olympiakos rather than play in the NBA so there will definitely be more news on this one. He averaged 12.5 points and 7.4 rebounds in 22 games in the Euroleague.
    Sounds like the Spurs are getting played again...

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    Here is where I miss Ludden.

    At a time when the NBA knows the Spurs need to re-tool a bit, them talking to Bourossis shouldn't be made public knowledge until it's needed to be made public knowledge.

    It's like talking about Batum and then watching him get snaked away by a former Spurs Front Office person.

    I'm happy that those guys got the best foundation work done and are now off to do their own thing but BRAIN-DRAIN has made this organization weaker not stronger. It doesn't mean that they ain't compe ive, it just means that the OLD GUARD has to work harder.

    Ludden would've released a possible interest story at a time where saying so wouldn't possibly have negative impact. AND HE WOULD'VE GOT HIS FACTS STRAIGHT.

    Keep Trying McDonald, but if you need fact-checkers...there's a ton of us here. But I'm not sure we work for free.
    Gotta disagree. McDonald's job is to get all of the info to his readers that he can.

    Would anyone suggest that posters here should not discuss the Spurs' interest in Bourousis?

    As far as harming the Spurs goes, don't worry -- if the Spurs feel that McDonald has undermined their efforts, he'll be covering high school football for the rest of his (numbered) days in San Antonio. Just ask Kevin O'Keefe.

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    Here is where I miss Ludden.


    Especially when he does the occasional Spurs article and still has a better handle on the team than McDonald does.

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    Mark my words, Boroussis is the next Tiago Splitter in that he'll use the NBA for negotiating a HUGE Euro contract and stay right where he is.

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    Mark my words, Boroussis is the next Tiago Splitter in that he'll use the NBA for negotiating a HUGE Euro contract and stay right where he is.
    I agree..Cannot hate the guy or or his agent for using this method of getting a bigger contract.

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    It is common knowledge that Bourousis would prefer to stay in Greece and Olympiakos rather than play in the NBA so there will definitely be more news on this one. He averaged 12.5 points and 7.4 rebounds in 22 games in the Euroleague.
    If I'm the Spurs, it's that statement right there where I would get nervous. Perhaps this kid, and his agent, are simply using the Spurs only to negotiate a better deal in Greece. If his heart is really not into playing in the NBA, I certainly wouldn't feel it's in their best interest to force his hand. He seems like a pretty decent talent, albeit a risky one.

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    Mark my words, Boroussis is the next Tiago Splitter in that he'll use the NBA for negotiating a HUGE Euro contract and stay right where he is.
    That's what was said about Scola -- no one can get him out of Europe, the buyout is impossible. Then the Rockets showed how easy it really was. I fear the Spurs have played the cheap card with some of these Euros. Some, like Manu, want to prove themselves in the NBA so much, and want to win so much, they don't care. Most, like Scola, want the $$$.

    Bottom line -- the Spurs better pull out all the stops to get this guy if they want him.

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    If I'm the Spurs, it's that statement right there where I would get nervous. Perhaps this kid, and his agent, are simply using the Spurs only to negotiate a better deal in Greece. If his heart is really not into playing in the NBA, I certainly wouldn't feel it's in their best interest to force his hand. He seems like a pretty decent talent, albeit a risky one.
    they gave him a deadline
    they can not sign anyone else
    right now

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