The Clippers are trying to bring him to the NBA right now so you are wrong. Also did I say he did not suck? of course he sucks. he sucks and yet he could still make an NBA roster because NBA centers in general most of them suck just as much or more.
We do not know the Spurs made an offer because:
1) All the reports are making up different numbers. You would think if there was an offer, there would be a consensus about how much.
2) The Spurs are not even allowed to make an offer until July 1st by the rules.
3) Yes, many times people drum up interest in players because it looks good for their leagues and fans, and it drives up the price for players. Using NBA teams is a smart way to up your asking price.
Nothing to worry about from that report. Just Bruno spinning what was said which is the only thing he ever does.
The Clippers, who have 109283741093284612309847 big men, are trying to bring him over? I doubt this.
Look man, I appreciate most of you posts regardless of whether you are Nikos from Santorini or Jeffy from Houston, and I'm especially entertained when you feel insulted and go off on the whole board, but you do state that a lot of things are fact when they are far from it.
He's not spinning anything. This is a quote from the translated website.
The two sides do not appear they reach at an early date in the agreement. Nevertheless the climate in the discussions is very good and it is not excluded exists also third appointment that perhaps reverses the data.
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate...rUrl=Translate
This is much stronger than Redeem Team roster. It would beat the 12 best Euroleague players. If you took the 12 best European players including ones that is in NBA and Euroleague and any other league then it would be closer but still probably this US team should win them.
Of course as I say that is much stronger than the Redeem team.
We are in agreement.
My main beef with Andreas back then was his motivation factor. He obviously had skills but really didn't seem to give a at times. He upped his game when he was taking on drafted NBA players like Plodkolzin and Ha-Seung Jin, but otherwise he spent a lot of time going through the motions which really shows in a cutthroat league like the NBADL. That didn't stop me from repeatedly calling for the Spurs to sign him back in 2006 -- if he's better now, fantastic.
hey, Pink Bunny is jelous.
if it makes you feel better: I'm not an expert, don't try to be one, just love basketball and tell my opinion. end of story.
but just a little advice....claiming that Spanoulis would be an all NBA 1 team player, well, doesn't exactly make anyone look like an expert. ever.
there is one question remaining: (other than you) I'm sitting in the heart of Europe. so what is in my case this foreign game you are talking about? Euro basketball I consider domestic.
Ok, Ive given u, KBP, the benefit of the doubt long enough but im kinda tired of u wasting the space on this forum. I do enjoy sum of ur incite on foreign prospects, BUT, ur idea of European basketball is completely bias. Get ur 12 best Euros cuz I dont think there's 12 good Euros in the NBA that could beat the Redeem team. Ur spitting out alot of off the topic stuff. I like greek players but lets face if they were as good as u say wouldnt there be more of them in the NBA. I mean do u believe the crap ur saying about how coaches r bias against them and , really? I mean if they're soooo good how could a coach refuse to play them. Europeans r getting alot better and have made leaps and bounds in the past decade but still lag alot in the entire aspect of basketball. The great ones go to the NBA, everyone else stays in Europe to reap the benefits of Uzbeckastan or where ever. Just come here and be cool, stop this bull argument that NBA players r only a inch better than Euros. An organized NBA team would lose to the Redeem team but not by as much as u think because they play together (most, anyway) and play more organized than Olympic teams. What I find funny is that u think that Euro teams r the only ones that can take it easy until it matters in the Olympics, but Team USA said countless times that they knew thats the way Euros play and followed suit. Y would Team USA try there hardest against teams made up of mostly non-NBA players. U underestimate the Spanish team, which if I recall has the #2 best league in the world. Anyway there's my stupid KBP rant, u will hear no more from me about this crap!!!
You do not understand European sports medias. Let me explain it for you. The sports medias are affiliated with a club, usually the bigger ones.
A report you are reading can come from Panathinaikos media, AEK media, Olympiacos media....................then there is also the basketball journalists and some of them have their own angle or reason for a report.
Then there are the Masonic members. They have there own objective and it is national team based. Finally there is the medias that are just reporting like a 24 news service something like ESPN news.
So basically for you to understand it is very simple. When you see things like "it is widely believed Bourousis prefers Greece or wants to stay with Olympiacos" that it is just some writer making up crap. He is just stating that for his own reasons.
Just like the US articles say things like "no way Spurs can afford Bourousis" "no way Spurs can outbid Olympiacos" "Bourousis does not want to play in the NBA, he is just using the Spurs to get more money from Olympiacos".
That is made up bull from a dumb ass writer with his own objectives. The bull is the same whether in US or Greece. Just ignore the speculation parts, or you can say ignore what Bruno posts. And don't worry about US or Greek media reliability. The big Greek sports medias are no more or less reliable than ESPN for example.
Dude, you can't say things like that and expect to maintain your scam of trying to get people to believe you.
Sofo said just yesterday that the Clippers invited him to their camp and he wants to go to it and not to think about him for the national team. Why would he make that up?
You and Bruno = political propaganda. Are you serious? Everyone else just ignore this nonsense.
Are you freaking kidding me? Are you denying that what I typed is exactly what that link says? I just copied and pasted...lol...you can't say I'm wrong, idiot...it's right there in black and white.
Yes, but how do you know what is made up and what is not? In the USA, when I go to Yahoo!, ESPN, SI, Fox Sports... and they are reporting on a trade or a contract, all of the reports match numbers. There is some form of consistency.
In these reports, there are not.
To fabricate compe ion for his services? Demand drives up prices. Perhaps he is trying to create a falsified demand for his services, thereby making himself seem more valuable to other clubs. I don't know this for sure, I'm just using deductive reasoning.
Also the Clippers bringing him to camp does not mean they want to sign him. It could just mean that they want bodies for camp and want to get a closer look at their property in a more NBA-style context.
KBP: Also, we all know that Bourousis has now had 3 meetings, so how is he being disrespectful by saying I am going to play for the Spurs and sign a contract as soon as they make me an offer?
Also, do you think that Olympiacos will match the Spurs offer?
Yes you are right. His nickname in Greece back then was "Standing Tree". What happened to him was he always had a dream of NBA. He was one of them that was always watching Jordan and the Bulls and those times on TV. Remember most Greek players do not have interest in the NBA but instead only PAO and Olympiacos (its cultural issues). He was different though. But he was always so lazy.
He made NBA just on fact he is so strong and physical. But he figured he could just get by with that as he had been. Maybe he could get 10-15 minutes in European clubs that were not really serious. He wasn't up to standard or PAO though which was they had already dumped him. he could make mid level Greek clubs that would allow his laziness.
He made NBA and found out he needed to work. He spent year in D league and had a good year winning the championship and the coach said he was the best player in D league. So then he got a big head again and started being lazy again. He was even asking Sonics give him 20 minutes or he would leave and they felt he was not ready as a rookie (he was not ready either) still he did not want to work. He was gone back to Europe. He went to Italy I think and then back to Greece. Finally he changed his ways.
Last year he announced he was trying to get back to NBA and he would start working and dedicate himself. Well it was like a new player believe me. This guy was so good last year in Maroussi and he made the Olympic team. They didn't even want Koufos on the team because of hos he was playing.
This year in Maroussi Glyniadakis was just awesome. This guy is a warrior and just a force in the paint. He is a wrecking ball in the basket area in defense and rebounds and shot blocking and still he has decent post moves, not a bad free throw shooter and he can hit a 12-15 foot jump shot.
Now Olympiacos wants him to replace Bourousis. If he keeps his work up then he should be in the Greek team at Eurobasket this summer and in Euroleague next year with Olympiacos and I think then next year if he wants to come to the NBA he will have plenty of offers. The guy was just a beast this year.
No. The Clippers confirmed it. He already was given an invite for the summer.
My point stands though...for example if the Spurs invite Sanikidze to camp it doesn't necessarily mean they want to bring him over.
I thought that it was already confirmed that the Spurs (or any other NBA team for that matter) could make an offer at any time for this player now that he is no longer under contract due to his age and the fact that he had already gone undrafted years ago. Is this not correct?
KBP
I need a better understanding of the greek news reports.
Each major club has there own sports media??
What is the national news / sports media outlet in Greece and have they reported on the Baurousis situation?
Here's what i believe is happening i'd like your thoughts and correct anything thats wrong.
- Bourousis has been a player the spurs have scouted for some time.
- Pop & RC watch Bourousis in the final four and let him know they want him to come over. (starting center minutes, learn from TD etc..)
- Although no formal offer can be made until July 1 a verbal offer has been made. The numbers vary according to reports.
- Bourousis current club have indicated they will not match the spurs offer and have already signed a replacement center. There is however another European team talking to Bourousis that could potentially offer a better deal then the spurs
- Apparantly Pop is taking charge of the courtship and wants to meet with Bourisis.
- Come July 1 the spurs will make a formal offer.
They can negotiate, but there can be no actual offer at this point.
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