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    So, is Duncan or Gortat going to play outside for the Spurs? Or are they going to clog the middle for TP, RJ, and Manu???
    Duncan is quite capable of playing outside.

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    Duncan is quite capable of playing outside.

    Good Lord, say it aint so, we are pulling our best Post man further from the basket. Try again...

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    Duncan played more outside this past season by design. He and Pop thought it would help preserve his body from the constant beating under the basket.

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    Good Lord, say it aint so, we are pulling our best Post man further from the basket. Try again...
    If you watched the Spurs play last year you would have seen Duncan positioned outside the paint quite frequently. Pop did this to reduce wear and tear.

    While perimeter defenders can't make any sort of contact without drawing a whistle, post defenders are allowed to do almost anything short of mounting the offensive player. Of course, Duncan will be on the low post when it matters most, but he is likely to spend more and more time on the high post during the long regular seasons ahead.

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    Good luck trying to persuade RC and POP on bringing Gortat to SA, but I don't see it happening... nice try though. GO SPURS GO!!!!

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    You just got to see what he did against the Lakers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud3SBbK_QxY

    Plus if he gets a 2 year contract we can always trade him and get some decent diverse talent when we ship over Splitter

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    Good luck trying to persuade RC and POP on bringing Gortat to SA, but I don't see it happening... nice try though. GO SPURS GO!!!!
    The FO has had a pretty good offseason so far, I expect they'll target the man they believe gives the Spurs the best chance to win it all. Before the RJ trade and the draft, I was for going after Gortat. Now I think Dice is the best option.

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    If you watched the Spurs play last year you would have seen Duncan positioned outside the paint quite frequently. Pop did this to reduce wear and tear.

    While perimeter defenders can't make any sort of contact without drawing a whistle, post defenders are allowed to do almost anything short of mounting the offensive player. Of course, Duncan will be on the low post when it matters most, but he is likely to spend more and more time on the high post during the long regular seasons ahead.
    Of course, or Joey Crawford would call 3 seconds on Tim if he planted himself in the paint. I saw him post up many times last season and he will continue to post up, since that is the best part of his game.

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    Good Lord, say it aint so, we are pulling our best Post man further from the basket. Try again...
    Also its good option for the pick and roll

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    Gortat lovers have yet to answer the question. Just the question with no other suppositions.

    Oh and for some of you, the Spurs are a Lead Guard(Point) Wings, and Posts kind of team.
    So that Center, PF traditional positions, only vaguely apply. When DRob was here, there was times where he played in, and then played out. Could Gortat do that? I haven't seen him. Nor have I seen him execute a HI-LO even though he had an excellent alley-oop catcher in Howard. Not saying Marcin wouldn't fit, I'm just saying that he wouldn't fit as well.

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    Gortat lovers have yet to answer the question. Just the question with no other suppositions.

    Oh and for some of you, the Spurs are a Lead Guard(Point) Wings, and Posts kind of team.
    So that Center, PF traditional positions, only vaguely apply. When DRob was here, there was times where he played in, and then played out. Could Gortat do that? I haven't seen him. Nor have I seen him execute a HI-LO even though he had an excellent alley-oop catcher in Howard. Not saying Marcin wouldn't fit, I'm just saying that he wouldn't fit as well.

    Who would you have at Center?
    If Sheed is in the line up at Power Forward for Tim that would be
    Tony Manu Sheed RJ and _____?? lets say for arguments sake we throw Bonner in that last spot like last year,then you have 2 guys on the 3 point line, not collecting rebounds when you could have an athletic big like Gortat in there and have a line up like: Tim Tony Manu RJ Gortat and Bonner, it gives you the flexibility that we lost when Kurt/Fab left and if you have Sheed at Center then whos the Power Forward? Ian Gist Blair? people who have never played in a single NBA Game??

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    Gortat lovers have yet to answer the question. Just the question with no other suppositions.

    Oh and for some of you, the Spurs are a Lead Guard(Point) Wings, and Posts kind of team.
    So that Center, PF traditional positions, only vaguely apply. When DRob was here, there was times where he played in, and then played out. Could Gortat do that? I haven't seen him. Nor have I seen him execute a HI-LO even though he had an excellent alley-oop catcher in Howard. Not saying Marcin wouldn't fit, I'm just saying that he wouldn't fit as well.
    I don't think Gortat spent any minutes on the floor with Howard at any point, he was simply the backup. Robinson was a face up offensive player, but everything he did on defense was traditional big-body center. Gortat plays exactly that. I don't give a if the guy never gets a play drawn up for him or a shot from more than three feet from the rim. We've got four starters on the floor capable of averaging 20 ppg; any points Gortat gets are gravy, but I want him blocking shots and getting rebounds so the other four guys can have more opportunities to score.

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    I don't think Gortat spent any minutes on the floor with Howard at any point, he was simply the backup. Robinson was a face up offensive player, but everything he did on defense was traditional big-body center. Gortat plays exactly that. I don't give a if the guy never gets a play drawn up for him or a shot from more than three feet from the rim. We've got four starters on the floor capable of averaging 20 ppg; any points Gortat gets are gravy, but I want him blocking shots and getting rebounds so the other four guys can have more opportunities to score.
    Gortat is a spurstalk.com wet dream. :wgaf:

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    Gortat is a spurstalk.com wet dream. :wgaf:

    And what exactly makes your opinion so much more worthy of attention?

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    Gortat is a spurstalk.com wet dream. :wgaf:
    He's the best available center, and the Spurs need a center. It's not everyone else's fault you never saw the guy play. If you don't give a , you're certainly spending way too much time defending your poorly thought out position.

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    And what exactly makes your opinion so much more worthy of attention?

    I just DON'T see what the BIG deal is about this ONE guy. Gortat, Gortat, Gortat, is all I hear, NO one else can do what GORTAT can do for the Spurs? That is my main point, I don't see his "special" abilities that you guys see.

    I don't see a guy that is that different than what we had in Fab and K. Thomas.

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    I just DON'T see what the BIG deal is about this ONE guy. Gortat, Gortat, Gortat, is all I hear, NO one else can do what GORTAT can do for the Spurs? That is my main point, I don't see his "special" abilities that you guys see.

    I don't see a guy that is that different than what we had in Fab and K. Thomas.
    Not having watched the guy play, ever, would be your first obstacle to understanding. Those of us that did watch him play are trying to tell you, but you don't seem interested in listening.

    BTW, if you're tired of hearing about Gortat, perhaps hanging out in a thread where he's being discussed is be a bad idea.

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    I don't give a if the guy never gets a play drawn up for him or a shot from more than three feet from the rim.
    IMHO, therein lies the problem. In order to win, there needs to be balance on the floor. if Gortat, can't establish himself on the O, then teams will try to get the ball to rotate to Gortat. He needs to be able to pass out of a double-team or be able to split a double and PLAY D. The play D part, he seems to have. But, again...balance is so key. And to me, pretty good d, limited o...not so balanced.

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    He's the best available center, and the Spurs need a center. It's not everyone else's fault you never saw the guy play. If you don't give a , you're certainly spending way too much time defending your poorly thought out position.

    OK, I will leave Gortat alone, he is just a wet dream anyway, we will never sign him.

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    I just DON'T see what the BIG deal is about this ONE guy. Gortat, Gortat, Gortat, is all I hear, NO one else can do what GORTAT can do for the Spurs? That is my main point, I don't see his "special" abilities that you guys see.

    I don't see a guy that is that different than what we had in Fab and K. Thomas.

    It is one thing to disagree, it is another to point at another opinion with the wgaf sign.

    Gortat brings a level of athletic ability that Oberto probably never had and that KT last put on display at TCU.

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    Gortat is a spurstalk.com wet dream. :wgaf:
    It makes sense when you think about it, IF Orlando gets Sheed then is Gortat a need there? Spurs have a need and have the MLE to offer. He only got paid $711,517 this past season he's looking for a raise and again if Orlando gets Sheed to they have the money to keep him? NOPE!!!!
    That leaves us to offer our MLE and offer him a starting Center position!

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    It makes sense when you think about it, IF Orlando gets Sheed then is Gortat a need there? Spurs have a need and have the MLE to offer. He only got paid $711,517 this past season he's looking for a raise and again if Orlando gets Sheed to they have the money to keep him? NOPE!!!!
    That leaves us to offer our MLE and offer him a starting Center position!

    No thanks, we will sign Sheed by Thursday morning.

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    Its always going to be a gable personally i think he's going to have a breakout year, where as Sheed is more at risk of having a Breakdown year...
    Gortat is younger and if we get him in a 2 year deal we can trade him next year when Splitter comes over and get help what ever area we may need

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    Wtf. Gortat is a wet dream and Sheed isn't.

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    No thanks, we will sign Sheed by Thursday morning.
    Thats the beautiful thing about the off season, the mystery. Who knows maybe the spurs stay with gooden and bonner
    Till then let the good discussion continue

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