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    im hoping LA gets screwed

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    they have to deal with kobe's contract, and odom/ariza's demands..the lakers are going to have a busy off-season..

    I just hope they don't receive any more gifts..
    aaaaaaaaaaameeeeen.

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    Trevor Ariza's agent David Lee said Monday that the Lakers won't receive a hometown discount from his client.

    Lee declined to reveal how much of a raise Ariza will seek when he becomes an unrestricted free agent, but he said his client should make him the most coveted wing player on the market.

    Among the teams Lee expects to pursue Ariza are Detroit, Portland and Toronto.

    "It's a question of how committed the Lakers are to competing again," Lee said. "If everyone else stood still, you could see what happens when a piece is missing, but the reality is teams out there are positioning themselves to be compe ive. When other teams are getting better, you can't afford to rest on your laurels."

    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...t_from_lakers/

    Awesome. Great news. But why would Portland want him? And Detroit has a billion small forwards already.

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    Detroit has many times said they want him along with Boozer.

    Toronto I don't see WHY they would, but yes I can see it.

    Portland? Why? You have 50 THOUSAND wings, why would you add him.

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    Cool, if Detroit signs him. I'd love the out of that.

    But they've been drafting tons of SFs...?

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    Toronto could look at him..they've extended a verbal offer to Marion, but everybody knows that Marion has a huge ego, so we'll see if he takes it..if he doesn't, Ariza makes sense..

    I think Ariza is much more likely to sign somewhere else than Odom..I haven't heard about any interest in Odom yet, hopefully a few teams will go after him..

    Ariza's agent is the same guy that forced the Lakers to overpay for Bynum, so that's obviously good for everybody else..

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    Cool, if Detroit signs him. I'd love the out of that.

    But they've been drafting tons of SFs...?

    I dunno, but I've been hearing too that Detroit has been wanting either Lamar Odom or Trevor Ariza.

    Boozer of course being object number 1 of their affections.

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    It is going to be a while before the Pistons are back in the thick of things in the east. A soon to be 30 year old Odom or a role player who wont fit at all in Trevor Ariza on a team that will suck for years to come doesnt make much sense other than just pissing away money.

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    It is going to be a while before the Pistons are back in the thick of things in the east. A soon to be 30 year old Odom or a role player who wont fit at all in Trevor Ariza on a team that will suck for years to come doesnt make much sense other than just pissing away money.
    If they keep McDyess and replace Wallace with Odom, a case can be made they're a better team. They're putting a lot of stock in their youngsters coming around, but still, I agree they'd not be interested.

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    If they keep McDyess and replace Wallace with Odom, a case can be made they're a better team. They're putting a lot of stock in their youngsters coming around, but still, I agree they'd not be interested.
    Supposedly McDyess is not interested in going back to Detroit.

    I think that thread is on page 2 or 3.

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    If they keep McDyess and replace Wallace with Odom, a case can be made they're a better team. They're putting a lot of stock in their youngsters coming around, but still, I agree they'd not be interested.
    Ariza would suck as a Piston. Not having a Gasol/Kobe to take the pressure off will exploit that. Portland needs a pg much much more than they need another sf.

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    Supposedly McDyess is not interested in going back to Detroit.

    I think that thread is on page 2 or 3.
    I was making a case that Detroit is not an awful team.

    Although they're close to a or get off the pot moment.

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    I was making a case that Detroit is not an awful team.

    Although they're close to a or get off the pot moment.
    IMO they are the worst kind of team to go to.

    Not bad enough to be in the lottery but not good enough to get out of the first round, nor good enough where a trade and a new FA would get you back in the Finals.

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    Because Odom is such a jekyll and hyde player. One night he can be great with 15-7-8 and the next night give you 6-2-2 or something along those lines. So...no to this. . He just doesnt have that "Spur" quality.

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    No way Odom would sign with us for the MLE - he'd stay a Faker for that money. He's openly stated that he really enjoyed winning and would like to do some more of it, so why would he leave a situation where he is certain to get another shot at the le for lil' ol' us? Sure, I think we can beat the Fakers with the team we're assembling, but would Odom think the same way? Not on your life.

    And besides, someone will come out of the woodwork, be it Detroit, the Grizz, the Raps, the Heat, someone will clear capspace and offer him $8mil+/yr over 5 years to leave the Fakers. Then it will be interesting to see whether he plays for love or money.

    I think Odom would be a fantastic Spur, but I don't see it happening... and yes, I did read the OP and everything since.

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    I really like Odom and I think he could be a good fit for us for a lot of reasons...
    1) first of all he already played together with Duncan in the national team;
    2) he's a good rebounder and decent shotblocker, if needed;
    3) is a decent shooter from outside;
    4) is a good defender, expecially for the three / four position, so he's ideal for "small ball"...with the advantage to be always higher than his opponent;
    5) he's still young and in his prime;
    6) he finally discovered the pleasure to win;
    7) i Think he's the real reason why this year the lakers had always an advantage against any other team : not only he's a living match up problem for any opponent, but he's finally matured for taking his game on the court at least in 2/3 of the games he play...and this consistence, with his talent and play making skills, is a huge advantage against anyone.

    That said, the point it will be if :

    a) the Lakers value Ariza more than him...and if they do so they're gonna overpay him, because the combination of talent, youth and a wonderful season will entice a lot of re-building teams to offer 7 or more millions to him...that is 14 millions for Buss, considering the lux tax plus all the other money necesarrly spent for players form 11 to 15 (till now I Think the lakers have only 9 or ten players under contract) one of them being Shannon Brown (that means at least 2,5/3 millions more plus the equal amount in lux tax);

    2) Odom, in case the lakers, after the signing of Ariza, deny to pay Him, Is ready to renounce to some money to play again for the le.
    As averybody already said, Spurs can offer at least the MLE for five years...probably some other team (Detroit ?) could offer more, but they're not team with the some chance of a le like the actual re-loading Spurs...

    Well, we'll see...however, anyone can dream...

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    Can't see the lakers letting Odem go offcourse but if financial reasons gives another team an opening - then he will be talked about. He was a huge part of the Lakers le run behind only Kobe and Gasol for importance. At his size, every coach would love the versatility and energy he offers. When matched, at times over-matched with player assignments he usuallly came out on top. Defensively i thought he was a monster for the Lakers with good foot speed and hustle. Most impressive was how he stepped up and adjusted to what-ever the team needed on a game to game basis. In the play-offs that's a valuable asset. BTW Odom played a lot at PF from what i saw.

    Surely, the Spurs would look at him if they stood a chance.
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    last year figures were available for team revenue, etc. Gives a good idea what kind of shape they are in.

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    Awesome. Great news. But why would Portland want him? And Detroit has a billion small forwards already.
    If Pritchard was smart he'd make a raid on the Lakers for Odom and/or Ariza and then trade some of Portland's complimentary pieces like Outlaw or Batum to pick up players he needs like a PG. That way he'd be weakening a main rival, the Lakers, and at the same time filling in some needs. Instead Portland talks about going directly after Hedo and Miller.

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    odoms weakness in defense makes up for it for the offense he can bring imo when you compare him to ariza

    ur talkin about a guy who can drive to the basket at will, whether it goes in or not is another topic....

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    As much as I would love for the lakers to suddenly develop a chronic case of luxury tax phobia, it's not going to happen. Odom isn't going anywhere. Neither is Ariza. Now I fully expect we'll see the lakers try to make some salary dump trades, possibly involving guys like Walton or Fisher, but Odom is part of that core and there's a 0% chance they'll let him walk.

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    LMAO Ariza owning LA

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    BTW Odom is a soft pussy. why would you want him??

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    50 I actually like the post-don't know why these hoez are jumping on you. All 50's saying is it would be an ideal situation, and it could happen. Will it happen, highly doubt it because even if the spurs offered a long 5 year/32 mil contract and even if the lakers didn't want to pay that they would if it came to it. No way they'd lose him to a conference rival. And if like some of you guys said you prefer a 34 year old sheed to a 29 year old odom because of a few pounds you're ing nuts!

    As for me, obviously what 50 said is an ideal situation-gain a flexible, efficient big man while the lakers are getting smoked at the same time. Again highly doubtful. I hope some dumb team offers up a big contract-maybe the mavs or pistons or some team that's desperate. That being said, Odom's last feelings were he is going to stay, and he hasn't made a peep yet about even wanting to test FA market. He still might, but it wouldn't surprise me if they work it out without any problems. 50 had another good point though, this is prob Odoms last chance to really get a nice contract, so you never know.
    Nice to see there is at least 1 rational person on this board that knows how to read and process what is being discussed.

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    Nice to see there is at least 1 rational person on this board that knows how to read and process what is being discussed.
    That's because most Spur fans still view the world through their Laker hater glasses. They are unable to separate themselves from their hatred of all things Lakers.

    Odom would be an amazing fit on the Spurs. A lot of what Odom does doesn't show up on the stat sheets. He is a glue guy that really excels when he is playing amongst other stars. He's the ultimate team player and worlds better than anyone else you have at PF (not counting Duncan).

    The Spur's FO would be ting bricks if they could acquire Odom.

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